Merkin Baller said:

dankind said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/17/brooklyn-center-protests-police-round-up-journalists/7268057002/

So much for the 1st Amendment. 

Merkin Baller said:

dankind said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/17/brooklyn-center-protests-police-round-up-journalists/7268057002/

So much for the 1st Amendment. 

dankind said:

tbergs said:

I don't get why they fuck with the media. It's completely stupid. I'm sure they want everyone gone, but that's not how it works.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bringmethenews.com/.amp/minnesota-news/photographer-reports-being-maced-and-punched-by-police-other-journalists-detained

Because journalists are the enemy of the (police) state. Remember. 

BODYCAM VIDEO SHOWS COP PUSH 73-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WITH DEMENTIA TO GROUND DURING ARREST

Saturday, April 17, 2021 3:39PM 

LOVELAND, Colo. -- A police officer who arrested a 73-year-old woman with dementia, pushing her to the ground and handcuffing her, after she walked away from a store without paying for about $14 worth of items last year was placed on administrative leave Thursday pending the outcome of a police investigation into the arrest.

The moves came a day after Karen Garner filed a federal lawsuit against the city of Loveland and police officers over her June 2020 arrest. Two other officers targeted in the lawsuit - a backup officer and a supervisory sergeant - have been reassigned to administrative duties, the Loveland Police Department said.

"LPD takes very seriously the allegations concerning the arrest of resident Karen Garner, and shares with the community the concerns about video images that became public on Wednesday," the department said in a statement.

Police body camera video included as part of Garner's lawsuit shows an officer approaching her as she walked through a field along a road last summer where she had been picking wildflowers.

She shrugs with her arms outstretched when he questions why she did not stop despite him following her in a patrol car with his lights on, the video shows.

When she then turns her back to him and starts walking away, the video shows the officer quickly grab one of her arms, puts it behind her back and pushes her 80-pound (36-kilogram) body to the ground and puts her in handcuffs as she looks confused and repeatedly says "I am going home."

She initially holds on to the flowers in her restrained hands behind her back, the video shows.

When the video shows her questioning what is happening, the officer says "I told you to stop. You don't get to act this way."

The footage later shows Garner being held against the hood of the patrol car with her left arm bent up next to her head.

The officer implies in the video that she is trying to kick him but her legs are not visible. Soon she starts to slide down toward the ground and the video shows another officer who had recently arrived yelling: "Stand up! We're not going to hold you!"

The release of the footage and lawsuit come at a time of a national reckoning over police tactics during arrests, particularly against Black people. Garner and everyone involved in her arrest are white. But her lawyer, Sarah Schielke, said vulnerable people including the disabled can be taken advantage of by police abusing their power.

The police department said it had not received a complaint about Garner's arrest before the lawsuit was filed. However, the body camera footage shows a man who stopped to film the arrest talking to the arresting officer and later to the sergeant to express concern about what he saw. The sergeant, talking to the man in the background, tells him: "Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen."

Schielke said the man was "gaslit" and questioned why anyone in Garner's family would want to file a complaint given that reaction. To her, the sergeant's response shows that the culture of the department, along with a lack of training, are the root problems that led to the arrest.

"It's definitely not just a bad apple," she said.

According to the lawsuit, Walmart employees asked Garner to return to the store when they saw her leave without paying and took the items back - a soda, a candy bar, a T-shirt, and wipe refills - denying her request to pay for the items.

Someone from Walmart then called police to report Garner and the direction she walking but said the store had not suffered a loss, the lawsuit said. The charges against Garner were dismissed after prosecutors wrote in a motion that she "appears to be incapable of understanding her surroundings or her actions."

The lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages, claims that Garner suffered a dislocated shoulder but that no one sought medical help until about six hours after she was arrested, when a deputy in the jail noticed she needed help.

The lawsuit claims the arrest violated her constitutional protections against excessive force and to have due process and also violated the Americans with Disabilities Act.

According to the lawsuit, forgetting to pay for items in stores is common among those with dementia. It also said Garner suffers from sensory aphasia, which impairs her ability to communicate and understand what other people are saying.

In addition to her physical injuries, the lawsuit claims Garner now experiences fear, trauma and anxiety whenever she leaves her home.

"What little freedom and happiness Ms. Garner enjoyed in her life as an elderly adult with declining mental health was, on June 26, 2020, recklessly and deliberately obliterated by the Loveland Police Department," it said.



https://youtu.be/Kzkl2u-Tc70

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

tbergs said:

cutz said:

That USA statistic is misleading. Many states require at least a 2 year degree and several departments even require 4 years. Those states that don't require post secondary education are fucked up. For reference though, MN has some of the highest standards and look what happened here in the last 5 years.

Statistic mentions nothing about population as well. Another useless Twitter meme  that people will believe automatically because they want to. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124039/police-killings-rate-selected-countries/

 Rate of police killings per 10 million residents

United States 33.5

Canada** 9.8

Australia*** 8.5

The Netherlands 2.3

New Zealand**** 2

Germany**** 1.3

England and Wales 0.5

Japan**** 0.2

Iceland**** 0

Norway**** 0

And the largest group of USA victims are white. By a lot. 

Until liberals and conservatives are honest with each other, that the US is a top 20 crime country and with by far the most guns on the street, it is a brutally dangerous job to police the streets.

Yet we still have other commenters calling the Daunte case “murder “ and continue to ignore the risks he decided to take over the last couple of years in his life in a very dangerous country that eventually put him into a high risk confrontation with the cops.

Taser errors have been historically categorized as manslaughter and the conviction rate is extremely low.

white victims make sense because white americans are the majority by a lot. so stop that shit. its disingenuous.

No it’s not. You are

the f*caking truth is nearly half of all deaths at the hands of the police last year were white. Double the amount of black victims. That’s the effing fact, be honest and own it. Were those cops also racist murderers? It does not matter at all the percentages were worse for blacks. Those deaths matter. They all do. 


The problem with America is both sides, liberals and conservatives, fail to see the truth, that the US has one of the highest rates of crime in the world , which is exponentially worse due to the absurd levels of guns on the street.

The right insists on more guns, and the left refuses again to call out a Black man who made several dangerous decisions in his young adult life that significantly  enhanced his risk of a tragic outcome.

HughFreakingDillon said:

hypothetical:

so we have 100 americans. 

90 are white. 
10 are black. 

15 of those americans are killed by police. 

10 are white. 
5 are black. 

sure, that's twice as many white people as black people killed, but:

1/9 of the white pop. 
1/2 of the black pop. 

and here someone is trying to make a point that it's the sheer number that matters, not that there seems to be a major disparity in the percentage. 

yes, all lives matter, but that's not the point of the BLM movement. the point is that, currently, black lives matter much less. if they didn't in the eyes of law enforcement/society, it would be 1/9 of each group being killed. 

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

tbergs said:

cutz said:

That USA statistic is misleading. Many states require at least a 2 year degree and several departments even require 4 years. Those states that don't require post secondary education are fucked up. For reference though, MN has some of the highest standards and look what happened here in the last 5 years.

Statistic mentions nothing about population as well. Another useless Twitter meme  that people will believe automatically because they want to. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124039/police-killings-rate-selected-countries/

 Rate of police killings per 10 million residents

United States 33.5

Canada** 9.8

Australia*** 8.5

The Netherlands 2.3

New Zealand**** 2

Germany**** 1.3

England and Wales 0.5

Japan**** 0.2

Iceland**** 0

Norway**** 0

And the largest group of USA victims are white. By a lot. 

Until liberals and conservatives are honest with each other, that the US is a top 20 crime country and with by far the most guns on the street, it is a brutally dangerous job to police the streets.

Yet we still have other commenters calling the Daunte case “murder “ and continue to ignore the risks he decided to take over the last couple of years in his life in a very dangerous country that eventually put him into a high risk confrontation with the cops.

Taser errors have been historically categorized as manslaughter and the conviction rate is extremely low.

white victims make sense because white americans are the majority by a lot. so stop that shit. its disingenuous.

No it’s not. You are

the f*caking truth is nearly half of all deaths at the hands of the police last year were white. Double the amount of black victims. That’s the effing fact, be honest and own it. Were those cops also racist murderers? It does not matter at all the percentages were worse for blacks. Those deaths matter. They all do. 


The problem with America is both sides, liberals and conservatives, fail to see the truth, that the US has one of the highest rates of crime in the world , which is exponentially worse due to the absurd levels of guns on the street.

The right insists on more guns, and the left refuses again to call out a Black man who made several dangerous decisions in his young adult life that significantly  enhanced his risk of a tragic outcome.

from wiki, population of white americans

White Americans are Americans who identify as and are perceived to be white people. White Americans (including White Hispanics) constitute the historical and current majority of the people living in the United States, with 72% of the population identifying as white alone totalling 236,475,401 people and 75% identify white fully or multiracial totalling 246,234,076 people. Non-Hispanic Whites totaled about 197,181,177 or about 60.1% of the population in 2019.[3] European Americans are the largest panethnic group of White Americans and have constituted the majority population of the United States since the nation's founding. 

from wiki, black americans

African Americans (also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans)[3] are an ethnic group of Americans with total or partial ancestry from any of the black racial groups of Africa.[4][5] The term African American generally denotes descendants of enslaved black people who are from the United States,[6][7][8] while some recent black immigrants or their children may also come to identify as African-American or may identify differently.[9]

African Americans

Total population
46,713,850 (2019)[1] 14.2% of the total U.S. population (2019)[1] 41,989,671 (2019) (one race)[1] 12.8% of the total U.S. population (2019)[1] 40,596,040 (2019) (non-Hispanic)[1] 12.4% of the total U.S. population (2019)[1]

you know, facts.....

as a percentage of demographic population, black folks fare far worse by a mile.

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1383611703812771842

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1383614327878340609

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1383616809912324103

I remember this.  The guy whom got shot looked like he was reaching behind him.  What I wanted to know was why the hell the cop was going commando on the guy.  He was sobbing because he was afraid that he was going to get shot, and he did.

After watching this I will never move for a cop.  I'll lie down on my stomach with my hands on my head.

PJNB said:

3rd degree is my guess