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Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.
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I only heard about this story on CBS This Morning while getting ready for work. I dont have a lot to comment on because I only heard the 1 segment. Definitely sad. Gale, who I often disagree with, had some good points when they covered it. She felt sorry for both. She recognized it was nearly 3 AM, they were responding to shots fired. Its hard to see from the video if it was a gun in his hand while running, but its clear there was a gun next to him after he was shot. The cops have a fraction of a second to decide what to do. I feel sorry for the kid, but I wouldn't want to be a cop in that situation either. Dark alley, responding to shots being fired, a chase on foot where you don;t know where you're being lead to. Not a good situation all around. I haven't formed much of an opinion yet since I only heard a brief story while getting ready. Since this was last month, hopefully there is more information available that will be released soon.cblock4life said:Feel free to correct me (mace) but it’s my understanding that had he not faced forward with his hands up he probably would not have been shot (?)
now should a 13 year old know that, probably not, however out at two am with a gun, maybe the adult with him should have enlightened him. I feel bad but if what I believe is true about surrendering then it was a split second decision and the officer did what they are trained to do.
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13 year old and 16 year oldmace1229 said:
Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.Scio me nihil scire
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..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
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The 13 year old from last month? Who was the 16 year old? I dont remember that story, or maybe just didn't realize he was 16.static111 said:
13 year old and 16 year oldmace1229 said:
Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.
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My understanding is that there was a 16 year old white kid that was recently killed by cops, I just saw that the 13 year old was March 29. So my bad. 1 young adult and 2 children in 30 days.mace1229 said:
The 13 year old from last month? Who was the 16 year old? I dont remember that story, or maybe just didn't realize he was 16.static111 said:
13 year old and 16 year oldmace1229 said:
Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.
Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:
My understanding is that there was a 16 year old white kid that was recently killed by cops, I just saw that the 13 year old was March 29. So my bad. 1 young adult and 2 children in 30 days.mace1229 said:
The 13 year old from last month? Who was the 16 year old? I dont remember that story, or maybe just didn't realize he was 16.static111 said:
13 year old and 16 year oldmace1229 said:
Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.
The 16yo was in Maryland... he was in possession of a knife and airsoft gun. Based on what little I've read of the witness reports, it sounds justified.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/us/peyton-ham-maryland-trooper-shooting/index.html
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I wasn’t trying to correct you, I thought I missed some breaking news. I did hear about the air soft gun, don’t think I heard the age. Although it’s a good guess it would be a kid.static111 said:
My understanding is that there was a 16 year old white kid that was recently killed by cops, I just saw that the 13 year old was March 29. So my bad. 1 young adult and 2 children in 30 days.mace1229 said:
The 13 year old from last month? Who was the 16 year old? I dont remember that story, or maybe just didn't realize he was 16.static111 said:
13 year old and 16 year oldmace1229 said:
Who are the 2 children in 1 week? I haven't heard of any children this week.static111 said:2 children and one young adult dead by police in one week. Surely something can be done about aggressive trigger happy policing. It just seems like the trigger is the first thing to reach for when it should be one of the last.0 -
Why are you under that impression? The air freshener story was only on Twitter started by friends and family. The police confirmed he had expired tags and that he was pulled over for that. Expired tags seems a lot more likely of a reason and I don’t think it’s that uncommon. So there’s really no reason I see not to believe that.CM189191 said:
..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.0 -
Expired tags are pretty easy to spot well before stopped. Year tag would be the wrong color when compared to month. Easier to see that than a pine tree at least based on how clean the plates looked.It's a hopeless situation...0
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mace1229 said:
Why are you under that impression? The air freshener story was only on Twitter started by friends and family. The police confirmed he had expired tags and that he was pulled over for that. Expired tags seems a lot more likely of a reason and I don’t think it’s that uncommon. So there’s really no reason I see not to believe that.CM189191 said:
..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.0 -
Absolutely. No one I've seen has disagreed with that. Was just curious why you still believe the stop was for an air freshener and not tags.CM189191 said:mace1229 said:
Why are you under that impression? The air freshener story was only on Twitter started by friends and family. The police confirmed he had expired tags and that he was pulled over for that. Expired tags seems a lot more likely of a reason and I don’t think it’s that uncommon. So there’s really no reason I see not to believe that.CM189191 said:
..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.0 -
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And I am curious why you care so much between the two. They are interchangeable in the incident. The tags were first. The air freshener was second. The gross misdemeanour was third and then it escalated. Glad we cleared that up since it really does not mean shit either way between the first two.mace1229 said:
Absolutely. No one I've seen has disagreed with that. Was just curious why you still believe the stop was for an air freshener and not tags.CM189191 said:mace1229 said:
Why are you under that impression? The air freshener story was only on Twitter started by friends and family. The police confirmed he had expired tags and that he was pulled over for that. Expired tags seems a lot more likely of a reason and I don’t think it’s that uncommon. So there’s really no reason I see not to believe that.CM189191 said:
..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.0 -
That USA statistic is misleading. Many states require at least a 2 year degree and several departments even require 4 years. Those states that don't require post secondary education are fucked up. For reference though, MN has some of the highest standards and look what happened here in the last 5 years.cutz said:It's a hopeless situation...0 -
A few (if not more) years working in a maximum security state prison where you are not permitted to carry a gun would teach pending officers how to speak to and work with non-whites while learning how to de-escalate situations without a gun. 750 black, white and Latino convicts on your block your first day and they just hand you the keys and say good luck...,,you’ll learn fast
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Statistic mentions nothing about population as well. Another useless Twitter meme that people will believe automatically because they want to.tbergs said:
That USA statistic is misleading. Many states require at least a 2 year degree and several departments even require 4 years. Those states that don't require post secondary education are fucked up. For reference though, MN has some of the highest standards and look what happened here in the last 5 years.cutz said:Post edited by nicknyr15 on0 -
mace1229 said:
Absolutely. No one I've seen has disagreed with that. Was just curious why you still believe the stop was for an air freshener and not tags.CM189191 said:mace1229 said:
Why are you under that impression? The air freshener story was only on Twitter started by friends and family. The police confirmed he had expired tags and that he was pulled over for that. Expired tags seems a lot more likely of a reason and I don’t think it’s that uncommon. So there’s really no reason I see not to believe that.CM189191 said:
..go on...mace1229 said:
Because I'm still under the impression he was pulled over for an air freshener.
I know he had expired tags, too. Which likely would've been noticed after having already been pulled over.
Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.Neither are an excuse for murder by cop.
I have yet to see otherwise. And you'll excuse me, if I have a hard time believing what the police say anymore. Cover ups and lies in Chicago, Baltimore, etc. This lady was the union president, no dummy.
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