2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    If the border isn't open, the last time I checked, there isn't a wall. A clandestine night time ride across the Niagara river might be a possibility. 
    Actually it’s open to fly to the US with a negative test, and by then proof of vaccination may be accepted.  The issue is more returning to Canada with its punitive quarantine requirements - which are the subject of a legal challenge at least.  I’m not saying there shouldn’t be precautions or that there isn’t a serious problem, but some of these policies significantly restrict freedom and have little if any benefit.  
    Hopefully as Canada ramps up it's vaccinations (a sore subject at the moment from what I am reading) those will ease.
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    edited April 2021
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    If the border isn't open, the last time I checked, there isn't a wall. A clandestine night time ride across the Niagara river might be a possibility. 
    Actually it’s open to fly to the US with a negative test, and by then proof of vaccination may be accepted.  The issue is more returning to Canada with its punitive quarantine requirements - which are the subject of a legal challenge at least.  I’m not saying there shouldn’t be precautions or that there isn’t a serious problem, but some of these policies significantly restrict freedom and have little if any benefit.  
    If you bypass the quarantine and self isolate at home its only an $800 dollar fine.  just saying.  
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    edited April 2021
    Hot take:

    What if Ohana and SHN are warmup shows? (As much as a professional band that's been around for 30 years shouldn't need them, especially when they'll take a few months off after.)

    They'll do maybe 2-3 Gigaton and "Get It Back" there...but then do Australia/NZ with no new songs, similar to how South America 2013 wasn't part of Lightning Bolt. SHN and Ohana could be similar to London and Wrigley 2013.

    Then...in April/May 2022, they'll do USA with all the new songs.


    Here's an article about getting back to normal. We're well on the way, but we still need vaccines and time.
    https://www.theverge.com/22370176/covid-19-vaccinated-people-cdc-guidance-herd-immunity
    Post edited by Lost In Ohio on
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    JABK said:
    Hope they announce the NA makeup shows soon, with an added MSG show 🤞

    I have no doubt that they'll add more. I have no inside info, but remember that they could only do one MSG show in early 2020 due to booking/logistic issues. There was the fall 2020 tour in which Pittsburgh was heavily rumored and I don't see them doing Pittsburgh and not Philly or NYC. You may remember that Pittsburgh was supposed to be in the first 2020 tour, but it didn't work out.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Hot take:

    What if Ohana and SHN are warmup shows? (As much as a professional band that's been around for 30 years shouldn't need them, especially when they'll take a few months off after.)

    They'll do maybe 2-3 Gigaton and "Get It Back" there...but then do Australia/NZ with no new songs, similar to how South America 2013 wasn't part of Lightning Bolt. SHN and Ohana could be similar to London and Wrigley 2013.

    Then...in April/May 2022, they'll do USA with all the new songs.


    Here's an article about getting back to normal. We're well on the way, but we still need vaccines and time.
    https://www.theverge.com/22370176/covid-19-vaccinated-people-cdc-guidance-herd-immunity
    Not sure why no new songs would happen in Australia. It is a bit different considering the album is already out for a year now (almost 2 when potential AUS shows hit) and 2013 the SA shows were 6 months or so before  the album was released. 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    My only worry is that every act that wasn’t able to perform these past two years will also be looking to perform 2022. Plus the normal sports schedule. So scheduling and availability for any new dates may still be an issue, especially if PJ are erring on the side of caution when it comes to early booking.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    PJNB said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Hot take:

    What if Ohana and SHN are warmup shows? (As much as a professional band that's been around for 30 years shouldn't need them, especially when they'll take a few months off after.)

    They'll do maybe 2-3 Gigaton and "Get It Back" there...but then do Australia/NZ with no new songs, similar to how South America 2013 wasn't part of Lightning Bolt. SHN and Ohana could be similar to London and Wrigley 2013.

    Then...in April/May 2022, they'll do USA with all the new songs.


    Here's an article about getting back to normal. We're well on the way, but we still need vaccines and time.
    https://www.theverge.com/22370176/covid-19-vaccinated-people-cdc-guidance-herd-immunity
    Not sure why no new songs would happen in Australia. It is a bit different considering the album is already out for a year now (almost 2 when potential AUS shows hit) and 2013 the SA shows were 6 months or so before  the album was released. 

    Debut them in the USA?

     Riot Act debuted in Australia and Binaural (besides warmup shows) and didn't Avocado get debuted in Europe?
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,904
    edited April 2021
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    All you need to do is fly instead of drive.   It's only the land border that's closed.  Plus if the US reopens, we can defacto travel, because Canadian's are permitted to come home.  So if the US lets us in, we're allowed to go back.

    In my case the major issue would be if they reschedule the Oakland shows before I'm vaccinated,, but I'm hoping it's a non-issue.
    Post edited by Zod on
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    PJ - ACL Fest looking more and more likely.  (Per several people with credible sources on the ACL rumors forum.  Also, would make sense from a tour logistics prospective with Ohana before)
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    vedpunk said:
    PJ - ACL Fest looking more and more likely.  (Per several people with credible sources on the ACL rumors forum.  Also, would make sense from a tour logistics prospective with Ohana before)
    Love love love it!!
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,063
    Would be amazing.  If MMJ is here too it would be perfect.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Are we thinking two nights over two weekends for ACL? 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,771
    Zod said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    All you need to do is fly instead of drive.   It's only the land border that's closed.  Plus if the US reopens, we can defacto travel, because Canadian's are permitted to come home.  So if the US lets us in, we're allowed to go back.

    In my case the major issue would be if they reschedule the Oakland shows before I'm vaccinated,, but I'm hoping it's a non-issue.
    There is also the matter of the quarantine.  I want to see PJ at these fests if they happen, but do I want to be under house arrest for two weeks afterwards? Or worse, hotel quarantine with guards? What is this world coming to?
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    I would gander that quarantine will be lifted by Sept, but what do I know.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    RatherStarved said:
    Zod said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    All you need to do is fly instead of drive.   It's only the land border that's closed.  Plus if the US reopens, we can defacto travel, because Canadian's are permitted to come home.  So if the US lets us in, we're allowed to go back.

    In my case the major issue would be if they reschedule the Oakland shows before I'm vaccinated,, but I'm hoping it's a non-issue.
    There is also the matter of the quarantine.  I want to see PJ at these fests if they happen, but do I want to be under house arrest for two weeks afterwards? Or worse, hotel quarantine with guards? What is this world coming to?
    No risk it, no biscuit.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    ^ wow! I love that rhyme. I'm gonna make that my new motto!
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,018
    vedpunk said:
    PJ - ACL Fest looking more and more likely.  (Per several people with credible sources on the ACL rumors forum.  Also, would make sense from a tour logistics prospective with Ohana before)
    Coming from you, this is great news.  You have been spot on in the past!
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    tish said:
    ^ wow! I love that rhyme. I'm gonna make that my new motto!
    =)
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    on2legs said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Zod said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    All you need to do is fly instead of drive.   It's only the land border that's closed.  Plus if the US reopens, we can defacto travel, because Canadian's are permitted to come home.  So if the US lets us in, we're allowed to go back.

    In my case the major issue would be if they reschedule the Oakland shows before I'm vaccinated,, but I'm hoping it's a non-issue.
    There is also the matter of the quarantine.  I want to see PJ at these fests if they happen, but do I want to be under house arrest for two weeks afterwards? Or worse, hotel quarantine with guards? What is this world coming to?
    No risk it, no biscuit.  
    Bruce Arians would be proud of you 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,904
    RatherStarved said:
    Zod said:
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Well, if you live on the East coast, this would be great. Those of us who live in the Midwest or West coast might have some difficulties and a lot more expense. A flight from the St Louis area and lodging in NYC vs a 3 hour drive? Having said that, I would probably find a way to make it.
    I’m in Toronto and gambling on the border reopening on top of all that.  But I’m not missing this show if it happens.  I’ll apply for a green card if I have to...
    All you need to do is fly instead of drive.   It's only the land border that's closed.  Plus if the US reopens, we can defacto travel, because Canadian's are permitted to come home.  So if the US lets us in, we're allowed to go back.

    In my case the major issue would be if they reschedule the Oakland shows before I'm vaccinated,, but I'm hoping it's a non-issue.
    There is also the matter of the quarantine.  I want to see PJ at these fests if they happen, but do I want to be under house arrest for two weeks afterwards? Or worse, hotel quarantine with guards? What is this world coming to?

    I guess there's that, but if you drive back through, it's pretty much on the honour system.

    There's enough holes in our covid rules that they're more like swiss cheese :)

    It'll definitely be interesting if the US decides to open up it's border crossings before Canada wants too.

    All this being said... I think it'll be a non issue.  If we do get concerts in the fall, the majority of Canadians should be vaccinated by them. Either they're working and covid cases rapidly dropped, or it's a failure and we have to go with the Thanos option.  There's no in between :)

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