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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I have not done the research but always got a kick out of the anti vaxxers jumping up right away and saying see told you the vaccine was bad anytime a death happened after the vaccine was administered. Of course I want to know if the vaccine is the cause of these deaths but to assume it was the vaccine when we are currently vaccinating the oldest and most vulnerable parts of our population is laughable. It is almost like no one can die of anything after getting the vaccine without redflags being thrown up everywhere. Not saying this to you 23scidoo just what I see in my everyday life at work and family. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    PJNB said:
    I have not done the research but always got a kick out of the anti vaxxers jumping up right away and saying see told you the vaccine was bad anytime a death happened after the vaccine was administered. Of course I want to know if the vaccine is the cause of these deaths but to assume it was the vaccine when we are currently vaccinating the oldest and most vulnerable parts of our population is laughable. It is almost like no one can die of anything after getting the vaccine without redflags being thrown up everywhere. Not saying this to you 23scidoo just what I see in my everyday life at work and family. 
    Well just like the folks who were saying that Covid death numbers were being artificially inflated by listing anyone who had the virus and perished (even in a car accident) as a  Covid death, there will be people now who watch a person leave a vaccination site after getting inoculated, step off the curb and get hit by a bus and say "see the vaccine killed him".
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,264
    For anyone scared of the vaccine, Vegas and Miami look like wonderful places to get those antibodies the old fashion way. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    23scidoo said:
    From www.gov.uk..
    ''The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.''

    so, about 500 people have died after the vaccine but the vaccine dosen't ''played a role''..
    Yes, the vaccine should cure all illnesses and make us all live forever.


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    23scidoo said:
    From www.gov.uk..
    ''The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.''

    so, about 500 people have died after the vaccine but the vaccine dosen't ''played a role''..
    23scidoo said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    This is all doing my head in
    Cool and calm please..
    "FIRE!!!"

    "EVERYONE STAY CALM!"
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,813
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    23scidoo said:
    From www.gov.uk..
    ''The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.''

    so, about 500 people have died after the vaccine but the vaccine dosen't ''played a role''..
    23scidoo said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    This is all doing my head in
    Cool and calm please..
    "FIRE!!!"

    "EVERYONE STAY CALM!"

     :D 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    23scidoo said:
    From www.gov.uk..
    ''The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.''

    so, about 500 people have died after the vaccine but the vaccine dosen't ''played a role''..
    23scidoo said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    This is all doing my head in
    Cool and calm please..
    "FIRE!!!"

    "EVERYONE STAY CALM!"
    I'm with you on that.  Like I had a vaccine  now I've got to shit  myself  everyday.  Its not calming having all these stories and whats the point I mean we are stuck like this if we don't vaccinate.  
    Just trying to stay alive full stop.


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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    Poncier said:
    PJNB said:
    I have not done the research but always got a kick out of the anti vaxxers jumping up right away and saying see told you the vaccine was bad anytime a death happened after the vaccine was administered. Of course I want to know if the vaccine is the cause of these deaths but to assume it was the vaccine when we are currently vaccinating the oldest and most vulnerable parts of our population is laughable. It is almost like no one can die of anything after getting the vaccine without redflags being thrown up everywhere. Not saying this to you 23scidoo just what I see in my everyday life at work and family. 
    Well just like the folks who were saying that Covid death numbers were being artificially inflated by listing anyone who had the virus and perished (even in a car accident) as a  Covid death, there will be people now who watch a person leave a vaccination site after getting inoculated, step off the curb and get hit by a bus and say "see the vaccine killed him".
    So,what we have if i get it right..
    you have the virus, you died in a car accident and you are covid death..
    about 2.65 millions deaths so far..is it possible, let's say 1millions deaths are not covid??..just asking..
    but on the other hand, 500 deads after vaccination only in UK but all its cool..don't know..
    and at the same time there is a huge problem with AstraZeneca vaccine and noone talks about it..Germany also pause vaccination..yes ofcourse they search it and i don't say its fatal ok??
    in Greece we gave Astra to people under 60..no elders..

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-astrazenec/germany-to-halt-astrazeneca-vaccinations-health-ministry-idUSKBN2B71UM
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    edited March 2021

    I think the vaccines are rushed and clearly it is okay to think that because countries have put AstraZeneca's on hold.  If I had kids I probably wouldn't have them vaccinated because they are at a low, low risk of having any issues with COVID and the vaccines (while probably safe) are rushed.  Why take the risk?  I know kids can transmit the virus but the adults can get vaccinated if they want protection.  

    I get my second dose of the vaccine tomorrow.  I wanted it to be able to freely travel.  Otherwise, I would have been fine waiting to get it or never get it at all because I don't think I'd have that much issue if I caught Covid.   I can transmit with or without the vaccine, and other adults can choose to get the vaccine.

    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    23scidoo said:
    Poncier said:
    PJNB said:
    I have not done the research but always got a kick out of the anti vaxxers jumping up right away and saying see told you the vaccine was bad anytime a death happened after the vaccine was administered. Of course I want to know if the vaccine is the cause of these deaths but to assume it was the vaccine when we are currently vaccinating the oldest and most vulnerable parts of our population is laughable. It is almost like no one can die of anything after getting the vaccine without redflags being thrown up everywhere. Not saying this to you 23scidoo just what I see in my everyday life at work and family. 
    Well just like the folks who were saying that Covid death numbers were being artificially inflated by listing anyone who had the virus and perished (even in a car accident) as a  Covid death, there will be people now who watch a person leave a vaccination site after getting inoculated, step off the curb and get hit by a bus and say "see the vaccine killed him".
    So,what we have if i get it right..
    you have the virus, you died in a car accident and you are covid death..
    about 2.65 millions deaths so far..is it possible, let's say 1millions deaths are not covid??..just asking..
    but on the other hand, 500 deads after vaccination only in UK but all its cool..don't know..
    and at the same time there is a huge problem with AstraZeneca vaccine and noone talks about it..Germany also pause vaccination..yes ofcourse they search it and i don't say its fatal ok??
    in Greece we gave Astra to people under 60..no elders..

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-astrazenec/germany-to-halt-astrazeneca-vaccinations-health-ministry-idUSKBN2B71UM
    Sorry, there's now way that 38% of the 2.65M Covid deaths are not related to the virus. My example of a car crash was just what some people who call Covid a hoax were saying, not something that's actually happening. Same people who now are saying the vaccine is killing people left and right, its just an unsubstantiated claim.

    And even if all 500 of those UK deaths were directly related to the vaccine (the odds of that are about zero), that's 500 out of 24Million, or .002%, way less than the 38% example you use about reporting of Covid deaths.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    edited March 2021
    Poncier said:
    23scidoo said:
    Poncier said:
    PJNB said:
    I have not done the research but always got a kick out of the anti vaxxers jumping up right away and saying see told you the vaccine was bad anytime a death happened after the vaccine was administered. Of course I want to know if the vaccine is the cause of these deaths but to assume it was the vaccine when we are currently vaccinating the oldest and most vulnerable parts of our population is laughable. It is almost like no one can die of anything after getting the vaccine without redflags being thrown up everywhere. Not saying this to you 23scidoo just what I see in my everyday life at work and family. 
    Well just like the folks who were saying that Covid death numbers were being artificially inflated by listing anyone who had the virus and perished (even in a car accident) as a  Covid death, there will be people now who watch a person leave a vaccination site after getting inoculated, step off the curb and get hit by a bus and say "see the vaccine killed him".
    So,what we have if i get it right..
    you have the virus, you died in a car accident and you are covid death..
    about 2.65 millions deaths so far..is it possible, let's say 1millions deaths are not covid??..just asking..
    but on the other hand, 500 deads after vaccination only in UK but all its cool..don't know..
    and at the same time there is a huge problem with AstraZeneca vaccine and noone talks about it..Germany also pause vaccination..yes ofcourse they search it and i don't say its fatal ok??
    in Greece we gave Astra to people under 60..no elders..

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-astrazenec/germany-to-halt-astrazeneca-vaccinations-health-ministry-idUSKBN2B71UM
    Sorry, there's now way that 38% of the 2.65M Covid deaths are not related to the virus. My example of a car crash was just what some people who call Covid a hoax were saying, not something that's actually happening. Same people who now are saying the vaccine is killing people left and right, its just an unsubstantiated claim.

    And even if all 500 of those UK deaths were directly related to the vaccine (the odds of that are about zero), that's 500 out of 24Million, or .002%, way less than the 38% example you use about reporting of Covid deaths.
    I don't know how many are not covid, the number was just an example, but there are many and doesn't have to do if it's hoax of not..
    And for me, even one death from any vaccine, it's a crime..
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Everyone ages 16 and over in Ohio will be eligible to sign up for the vaccine starting March 29th 
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I read that Moderna has begun its 12 and under study (6,750 subjects between 6 months old and 12 years old). Hoping all goes well and that my children can be vaccinated as soon as possible.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998

    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,543
    23scidoo said:

    Banned or suspended?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    elvistheking44 said:
    23scidoo said:

    Banned or suspended?
    At the top of the meme it says suspended...I'll side with eu countries...
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    In Mod-speak: A time-out :lol:
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    Meltdown99 said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    23scidoo said:

    Banned or suspended?
    At the top of the meme it says suspended...I'll side with eu countries...
    If I know right they still search on it..
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  • mickeyrat
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,831
    They should make it crystal clear that one strike and you are out = you never get to fly in the US, again.
    Fuck these people.  
    It is a rule 
    Follow it.
    Nobody cares that you disagree with the rule.
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