Ongoing PG&E power outages

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Just out of curiosity, because I have seen you say it a couple times, what do you mean by “decorative fireplace”?  Different from a regular fireplace?
    Not meant to heat the apartment. Maybe for impressing dates.  T first night I got a fire going I discovered that it was covered in paint, so we had the windows open to get the smoke from the burning paint out.  It’s about the size to hold 3 logs and the heat radiates about 5 ft from the fire.  Ambient temp away from the fire rarely reaches above 41 degrees.
    Your fireplace might be doing more damage than good.  If you light that fire it might take all the heat in your house right out the chimney because like you said, it's decorative.

    You'd be better of lighting that fire outside and keeping what little heat you have left in the house.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    Its not the response that is bad, its the lack of preventative measures that are bad. Not much you can do once the power is out and the water is frozen or untreated in terms of responding at that point. 
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  • mace1229
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
    Yes, true leadership bails at the sign of trouble. 

    It's amazing how little people expect of their leaders.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
    it's the optics. a leader is supposed to be there to help and be supportive and be a source of inspiration and strength. he up and left. 

    look at what Beto did. called over 150,000 people to make sure they were ok. Cruz took his daughters to mexico, which is also strictly ill-advised because of covid. 

    the guy is a certifiable moron. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
    He's openly criticized other weather related incidents like California's power problems so leaving when the times are tough and not trying to help?

    Yeah.  I'll criticize him all day long.

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
    He's openly criticized other weather related incidents like California's power problems so leaving when the times are tough and not trying to help?

    Yeah.  I'll criticize him all day long.

    Thats true, he does criticize other weather and power problems. And traveling during covid is not a good look either. I don't know what he could have done sticking around when they don't know when power is coming back, water is coming on, etc. Its just an image thing, not a practical thing. And now he has to eat his words for criticizing others.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    Odd to see anyone defending Ted fucking Cruz. Who even does that, especially based on his track record as a shitty hypocritical jackass who helped promote an insurrection. Fuck him all the way to hell.

    I'm sure he's the next GOP presidential nominee though because he is a valueless pile of trash whose words ring hollow on every topic.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited February 2021
    tbergs said:
    Odd to see anyone defending Ted fucking Cruz. Who even does that, especially based on his track record as a shitty hypocritical jackass who helped promote an insurrection. Fuck him all the way to hell.

    I'm sure he's the next GOP presidential nominee though because he is a valueless pile of trash whose words ring hollow on every topic.
    I just don't get the coverage of it I guess. I think I heard more about Cruz than the Mars landing on the morning news. A short story calling him a hypocrite and pointing our his criticism of others and moving on seems fitting. Headline news for a day considering what else is going on seems obsessive and fixated. If it wasn't the focus of the morning news this morning I wouldn't have bothered to comment on it. Yes, it looks bad. It doesn't deserve the media coverage it has gotten though. Bigger things to worry about that than where Ted took his 2 daughters. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133

    This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.

    I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS!  People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.

    We went through this during Sandy.  I prepared and bought a generator and gas to last me a month.  I learned from past experiences to make sure you have what you need incase of a crisis but I know that not everyone has that luxury.

    What is happening there that did in the southshore of NY is the government / powers that be are failing the people.  The local government here did almost nothing at first to help the people.  It was an absolute disaster.  Had I not a generator and fuel we would have been freezing just like Texas is.

    Cruz going to Mexico during this speaks volume about a persons character.
    How involved is Cruz with the planning and maintenance of the power? I'm guessing not at all, its more the governor and not a US senator thing. And if that's the case, I really don't see what the issue is with him leaving. If he campaigned for not updating or winterizing the plants, then sure, stay and stick it out with everyone else. But if he wasn't involved in any of that, why guilt someone who has the means to leave into coming back and using the little water and electricity they have just because you're mad they had the money to leave?
    He's openly criticized other weather related incidents like California's power problems so leaving when the times are tough and not trying to help?

    Yeah.  I'll criticize him all day long.

    Thats true, he does criticize other weather and power problems. And traveling during covid is not a good look either. I don't know what he could have done sticking around when they don't know when power is coming back, water is coming on, etc. Its just an image thing, not a practical thing. And now he has to eat his words for criticizing others.
    But it's not just an image thing. Just because he can't bring back the power doesn't mean you throw your hands up and leave. It's lazy and a poor excuse. The fucker even tried to play the "being a good dad" card. Bullshit. There's a lot he could do. Just look at what Beto did. I'm sure there were plenty of volunteer opportunities he could have chosen to be a part of or lead, but he's not a leader or someone who gives a shit about the have nots. He talks out his ass and is a true Trumpian.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,229
    You’d think Ted Crud, as a Senator, would know how to leverage his political power to influence assistance from FEMA, DOE, etc., and at least stick around and appear at the podium with Abbott&Costello to give at least a slight appearance of giving a shit about his constituents. And he graduated Haaaaavahd? Fuck him.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    I have a friend in Austin. I'm sure it's pretty frustrating for a guy who grew up in Wisconsin to see what he used to know as standard February weather shutting everything down. He was laid off about six months ago and was supposed to start a new job on Monday, but the power outage prevented it.  His power, for some reason, held out longer than most but he finally needed to start using the fire place.

    It's crazy.  I know this is virtually unprecedented in much of Texas, so it makes sense that people can't drive and that things are shutting down a bit, but I still can't fathom that a week of better-than-average February days in Minnesota is wrecking such havoc.

    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there. That being said @Meltdown99 can go fuck themselves with a hot poker for laughing at anything happening here.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    Its not the response that is bad, its the lack of preventative measures that are bad. Not much you can do once the power is out and the water is frozen or untreated in terms of responding at that point. 
    I tend to agree. They were not even in a position to have the opportunity to respond well.  As someone mentioned earlier, it's advisable not to think of this as a "100-year" event because crazy shit is simply going to become less "crazy" moving forward.  Learn from this; don't repeat it.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    You know what's funny?  The last 72 posts in this thread are about Texas and PG&E doesn't even serve Texas. :lol:
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Make that 73.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Ted Cruz left his dog in his freezing house to escape to Mexico.  Bravo.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/02/ted-cruz-flees-texas-for-cancun-ditches-family-poodle.html?fbclid=IwAR1c9oO92XJ9-7Aad7TsU6wJE0qTdsZ4ABQJw_UyCjzVxqXXYAktBDk_sgs

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    74
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,336
    brianlux said:
    You know what's funny?  The last 72 posts in this thread are about Texas and PG&E doesn't even serve Texas. :lol:
    Look on the bright side, all of this has to make you feel a little better about PG&E!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    FiveBelow said:
    brianlux said:
    You know what's funny?  The last 72 posts in this thread are about Texas and PG&E doesn't even serve Texas. :lol:
    Look on the bright side, all of this has to make you feel a little better about PG&E!

    LOL
    I will say, PG&E has been working to upgrade some of their infrastructure and trim trees around power poles.   We'll find out in 7 or 8 months how well their efforts will have paid off.  I'm glad fall is still a long ways away!
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  • PJPOWER
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    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Just out of curiosity, because I have seen you say it a couple times, what do you mean by “decorative fireplace”?  Different from a regular fireplace?
    Not meant to heat the apartment. Maybe for impressing dates.  T first night I got a fire going I discovered that it was covered in paint, so we had the windows open to get the smoke from the burning paint out.  It’s about the size to hold 3 logs and the heat radiates about 5 ft from the fire.  Ambient temp away from the fire rarely reaches above 41 degrees.
    Right on, just make sure it vents good 

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