#46 President Joe Biden

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,680
    Gern Blansten said:


    Fucking idiot
    honestly, i don't disagree with him. his last comment "it's like peeing on a forest fire" is spot on. 

    the CERB program in canada gives $500 per week for 28 weeks. that's $2K per month for 7 months. $1400 gives people the money to pay their hydro bill for a home they've already lost. it's absurd. 
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  • Out of My Mind and Time
    Out of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,680
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    Pretty sure he's just continuing with the same amount that Trump initially floated, isn't he? I don't think it's necessarily a Biden problem. republicans in office and voters simply won't stand for more than that. "socialism!" they'll all cry. 

    I understand the idea of just getting money into the hands of americans, but the criticism is valid. politicians making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year bickering over $1400 for months while people lose their lives and homes is utter insanity. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,867
    Morning Joe taking Biden to task today for not following science and the health leaders advice and instead bowing to the mighty teachers union in not re-opening schools. It was a good listen.  Helps that I agree with him I guess. ;)
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,630
    cincybearcat said:
    Morning Joe taking Biden to task today for not following science and the health leaders advice and instead bowing to the mighty teachers union in not re-opening schools. It was a good listen.  Helps that I agree with him I guess. ;)
    Which "him" do you agree with?  Joe? Oh, wait, that doesn't help. Morning Joe or President Joe? (I think the former)

    I have to admit that having no kids I have the absolute luxury to have no opinion on schools. It seems very counterintuitive that opening schools would be safe but I feel like I keep seeing headlines (again, I have the luxury to not click them) that say it's pretty safe.

    Ugh, though.  I feel like there's a light at the end of the tunnel and some people (State of Wisconsin for example) are just ownin' the libs...
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,381
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,867
    OnWis97 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Morning Joe taking Biden to task today for not following science and the health leaders advice and instead bowing to the mighty teachers union in not re-opening schools. It was a good listen.  Helps that I agree with him I guess. ;)
    Which "him" do you agree with?  Joe? Oh, wait, that doesn't help. Morning Joe or President Joe? (I think the former)

    I have to admit that having no kids I have the absolute luxury to have no opinion on schools. It seems very counterintuitive that opening schools would be safe but I feel like I keep seeing headlines (again, I have the luxury to not click them) that say it's pretty safe.

    Ugh, though.  I feel like there's a light at the end of the tunnel and some people (State of Wisconsin for example) are just ownin' the libs...
    Morning Joe ;)  
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,867
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    Fucking idiot
    honestly, i don't disagree with him. his last comment "it's like peeing on a forest fire" is spot on. 

    the CERB program in canada gives $500 per week for 28 weeks. that's $2K per month for 7 months. $1400 gives people the money to pay their hydro bill for a home they've already lost. it's absurd. 
    Yeah, he’s not wrong...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited February 2021
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    Fucking idiot
    honestly, i don't disagree with him. his last comment "it's like peeing on a forest fire" is spot on. 

    the CERB program in canada gives $500 per week for 28 weeks. that's $2K per month for 7 months. $1400 gives people the money to pay their hydro bill for a home they've already lost. it's absurd. 
    Yeah, he’s not wrong...
    I enjoy his podcast
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,680
    exactly. biden is a fool for not giving enough but trump wanted too much. haha, the hypocrisy is hilarious. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    The Juggler said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    Fucking idiot
    honestly, i don't disagree with him. his last comment "it's like peeing on a forest fire" is spot on. 

    the CERB program in canada gives $500 per week for 28 weeks. that's $2K per month for 7 months. $1400 gives people the money to pay their hydro bill for a home they've already lost. it's absurd. 
    Yeah, he’s not wrong...
    I enjoy his podcast
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    exactly. biden is a fool for not giving enough but trump wanted too much. haha, the hypocrisy is hilarious. 
    It's gonna be fun throwing those tweets in people's faces from here until eternity. There's a tweet for literally anything. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,381
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

    I can point to where it should be.  It can ultimately be reconciled on the current year tax return so the process won't be perfect but it still works.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,907
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

    So because it can't tell where the cut is for a small% of the potential population,  you don't do anything at all? Is that how you work in business or the real world?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,907
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    I don't think that's where the "tool proving" is happening. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,907
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

    I can point to where it should be.  It can ultimately be reconciled on the current year tax return so the process won't be perfect but it still works.
    It's actually better than we anticipated.  If you recall we were talking about the using the 2019 numbers, etc.  So in the 2020 tax forms, you are asked if you received the stimulus in 2020.  If you check no and you re within the income window, you receive the money in the form of refund.  Now I don't know how they will handle the one being debated now.  Perhaps they just update the form.  And if you filed already, you'll get the check.  But either way, it looks like that's how they will determine eligibility if your income has changed year over year. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,381
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

    I can point to where it should be.  It can ultimately be reconciled on the current year tax return so the process won't be perfect but it still works.
    It's actually better than we anticipated.  If you recall we were talking about the using the 2019 numbers, etc.  So in the 2020 tax forms, you are asked if you received the stimulus in 2020.  If you check no and you re within the income window, you receive the money in the form of refund.  Now I don't know how they will handle the one being debated now.  Perhaps they just update the form.  And if you filed already, you'll get the check.  But either way, it looks like that's how they will determine eligibility if your income has changed year over year. 
    I see it being a 2021 credit.  Same process next year.

    A lot of people are waiting to file 2020 until they clarify.  Which sucks because I want to get this shit done.
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,907
    edited February 2021
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Yep. This current president is proving the tool that he is. On many fronts. 

    For many who make a good income, did not get anything.  And that is perfect. But funny for the people that made just under the cut. Dont remember the cutoff, but what the fuck is $100 going to do with a couple making $250k/year? The $ is not directed were people that need it the most. And even then, the stimulus helps for a month or two? This crisis has lasted and will last longer than this. 

    Funny I type this at the bank line. 
    There has to be a cutoff somewhere.  And keep in mind that a lot of high earners are the business owners that benefitted enormously from the PPP loans.  
    We've kinda been through this, but the fact that you cannot point to where the real line should be...tells you (at least me) that it's a dumb idea to begin with.  

    I can point to where it should be.  It can ultimately be reconciled on the current year tax return so the process won't be perfect but it still works.
    It's actually better than we anticipated.  If you recall we were talking about the using the 2019 numbers, etc.  So in the 2020 tax forms, you are asked if you received the stimulus in 2020.  If you check no and you re within the income window, you receive the money in the form of refund.  Now I don't know how they will handle the one being debated now.  Perhaps they just update the form.  And if you filed already, you'll get the check.  But either way, it looks like that's how they will determine eligibility if your income has changed year over year. 
    I see it being a 2021 credit.  Same process next year.

    A lot of people are waiting to file 2020 until they clarify.  Which sucks because I want to get this shit done.
    If it's a tax credit for this year, you don't recognize it until you file in 22, right?  That seems useless from a stimulus perspective. 

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