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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    heard complaints about that ad. local radio , here. I dont get the disapproval myself.

    I feel it was one of the best of the night.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mickeyrat said:
    heard complaints about that ad. local radio , here. I dont get the disapproval myself.

    I feel it was one of the best of the night.
    What was the problem?  Unless you hate middle ground, there's not much else to complain about. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    heard complaints about that ad. local radio , here. I dont get the disapproval myself.

    I feel it was one of the best of the night.
    What was the problem?  Unless you hate middle ground, there's not much else to complain about. 

    preachy is the complaint what I heard. which I dont get.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html

    pop music critic. enough said.
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,343
    mickeyrat said:
    heard complaints about that ad. local radio , here. I dont get the disapproval myself.

    I feel it was one of the best of the night.
    There wasn’t anything wrong with the message in that ad. I’m not usually a fan of using celebrity, but I thought he was a good choice. Very few under 30s outside of NJ and NY probably even knew who it was.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html
    One thing I definitely picked up on right away and so did the writer:

    he begins a spiel in the introspective cadence honed during his recent Broadway-to-Netflix thing: “There’s a chapel in Kansas standing on the exact center of the Lower 48. It never closes. All are more than welcome to come meet here — in the middle.”
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    heard complaints about that ad. local radio , here. I dont get the disapproval myself.

    I feel it was one of the best of the night.
    What was the problem?  Unless you hate middle ground, there's not much else to complain about. 

    preachy is the complaint what I heard. which I dont get.

    It's the only complaint people have, and it's no different than complaining about virtue signaling. 

    I can understand how people resent being lectured by a Jeep ad, but on the other hand if American's weren't so generally shitty to each other and maybe put more thought into who we elected to represent us, we probably wouldn't need a fucking car commercial to be our moral compass. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html
    One thing I definitely picked up on right away and so did the writer:

    he begins a spiel in the introspective cadence honed during his recent Broadway-to-Netflix thing: “There’s a chapel in Kansas standing on the exact center of the Lower 48. It never closes. All are more than welcome to come meet here — in the middle.”
    Is that bad?  I guess one could criticize that the chapel is Christian.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html
    One thing I definitely picked up on right away and so did the writer:

    he begins a spiel in the introspective cadence honed during his recent Broadway-to-Netflix thing: “There’s a chapel in Kansas standing on the exact center of the Lower 48. It never closes. All are more than welcome to come meet here — in the middle.”
    Is that bad?  I guess one could criticize that the chapel is Christian.  
    No. It seemed very authentic to me. Typical Bruce. It seemed like an intro and a song should have followed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's one criticism, but it's strained in my opinion.  It's basically that he "sold out".  Okay, the guy is in his 70s and as wealthy as he needs to be.  I doubt he sells out.  Maybe he truly believes the message. 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/springsteen-sells-out-jeep-ad-superbowl/2021/02/07/b9bd1fa0-6986-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html
    One thing I definitely picked up on right away and so did the writer:

    he begins a spiel in the introspective cadence honed during his recent Broadway-to-Netflix thing: “There’s a chapel in Kansas standing on the exact center of the Lower 48. It never closes. All are more than welcome to come meet here — in the middle.”
    Is that bad?  I guess one could criticize that the chapel is Christian.  
    There's nothing wrong with it, people just need things to be outraged about. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    I saw another comment criticizing that the soil he was touching was Native American soil, not American.  I guess the same could be said about the turf at the New Sombrero last night. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    I love Bruce but I get pretty annoyed with his monologues, he always sounds like he is the most important person in the world and that every word coming out of his mouth is wisdom.  Very cool for song intros at concerts, but pretty distracting anywhere else.  As far as the commercial. Who cares. Another rich guy selling cars. It’s the 20’s we all have to sell out in some way.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    static111 said:
    I love Bruce but I get pretty annoyed with his monologues, he always sounds like he is the most important person in the world and that every word coming out of his mouth is wisdom.  Very cool for song intros at concerts, but pretty distracting anywhere else.  As far as the commercial. Who cares. Another rich guy selling cars. It’s the 20’s we all have to sell out in some way.
    Hah, well you've got 25 more years of that coming, but under the name of EV.  It's pretty interesting how Ed continues to shape himself in the image of Bruce, certainly from a societal part, but the concerts as well.  Clearly in the moralizing but also the way he constructs set lists.  They are very similar to Bruce. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I love Bruce but I get pretty annoyed with his monologues, he always sounds like he is the most important person in the world and that every word coming out of his mouth is wisdom.  Very cool for song intros at concerts, but pretty distracting anywhere else.  As far as the commercial. Who cares. Another rich guy selling cars. It’s the 20’s we all have to sell out in some way.
    Hah, well you've got 25 more years of that coming, but under the name of EV.  It's pretty interesting how Ed continues to shape himself in the image of Bruce, certainly from a societal part, but the concerts as well.  Clearly in the moralizing but also the way he constructs set lists.  They are very similar to Bruce. 
    Definitely. You could easily replace Bruce in that commercial with Ed. The deep baritone and serious old guy look. I don't see it as selling out though. Neither of them need the money. They like what they do and they care about the world.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,475
    He didn't  write the ad copy

    How Bruce Springsteen Agreed To Do a Super Bowl Commercial for Jeep.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I love Bruce but I get pretty annoyed with his monologues, he always sounds like he is the most important person in the world and that every word coming out of his mouth is wisdom.  Very cool for song intros at concerts, but pretty distracting anywhere else.  As far as the commercial. Who cares. Another rich guy selling cars. It’s the 20’s we all have to sell out in some way.
    Hah, well you've got 25 more years of that coming, but under the name of EV.  It's pretty interesting how Ed continues to shape himself in the image of Bruce, certainly from a societal part, but the concerts as well.  Clearly in the moralizing but also the way he constructs set lists.  They are very similar to Bruce. 
    Definitely. You could easily replace Bruce in that commercial with Ed. The deep baritone and serious old guy look. I don't see it as selling out though. Neither of them need the money. They like what they do and they care about the world.
    I love them both. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    I guess this should go under GOP, but has anyone else been reading about the "Romney Plan"?  It's basically an incentive program to pay families monthly for children.  It's meant to offset the cost of rearing a child.  It is highly ambitious and seems to cover both sides of the political spectrum.  First, it provides financial support monthly for parents and second, it incentivizes having children.  And I think the latter is a worthy goal because the birth rate in this country continues to plummet, and not in a good way.  There are plenty of studies that show that many parents would like more children, but can't afford them.  Now before you get cynical, it does phase out quickly with the number of kids you have, so it's not some LDS giveaway.  It also is aimed at low and middle income families.  Really interesting.  Thoughts?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-05/romney-s-child-allowance-would-upend-welfare
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
     My fellow Republicans, convicting Trump is necessary to save America
    Opinion by Adam Kinzinger

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/08/adam-kinzinger-trump-impeachment-senate-republicans/



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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    the world doesn't need more people
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