#46 President Joe Biden

mickeyrat · January 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

mrussel1 · January 2021

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

mickeyrat · January 2021

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

So THATS why infrastructure week never happened.....

mickeyrat · January 2021

cincybearcat · January 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

Yes.

Halifax2TheMax · January 2021

81,283,000 Americans voted for President Biden. He’s got a mandate and political capital and he intends to spend it.

cincybearcat · January 2021

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2021

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

i agree. same goes with all these environmental protections and regulations trump undid. shouldn't be allowed.

Merkin Baller · January 2021

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.

Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?

HughFreakingDillon · January 2021

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.

Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?

there is (environmental), and I agree with it. it just seems so stupid that so many EO's of consequence end up being ping ponged by the next admin.

mrussel1 · January 2021

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

My understanding was that gov't was assisting in the cost. Considering this is a multi billion dollar project, I would have expected the price of TC to plummet. It has only lost a few dollars since Biden was elected.

Meltdown99 · January 2021

The Alberta government pumped 1.5 billion into the project just a few months ago. But that was just a stupid thing to do. Alberta knew this pipeline was on shaky ground to begin with, so why they invested more into cash the pipeline is what I would like to know? And Alberta has been struggling...so they wasted much needed money.

As much as I do not like the project being cancelled. But if the project restarts it needs to go through the proper environmental regulations and proper consultations...and be approved through legislation...would you not think?

with that being said...Canadians do not have a right to demand the US build a pipeline to pump Canadian oil...especially when we do not build enough pipe line capacity to get our oil to tidewater...and we still import Saudi oil.

cincybearcat · January 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Does anyone find it disturbing that work can be in progress...spent $ towards an end goal...and then a stroke of the pen by 1 person stops it instantly and does truly eliminate $ coming in for those workers instantly?

I know it can happen in other ways when businesses decide to close...but it seems that it rarely happens overnight. When Biden signed that, are there any employee protections in place other than simply unemployment?

according to fuckstick the wall was completed..

i think he may be referring to keystone

was already held up because of nebraska.

further, record number of barrels per day are already being shipped via train and truck as well as existing pipeline thats getting upgrades....

Yes, that's exactly it. Last time I asked a conservative, they were not in support of gov't funded jobs simply because people needed a job. If there is no oil shortage (hint, there's not), then why build pipelines?

Ummm...the government isn't building the pipeline are they? So not sure I see the comparison. It's the government halting private industry (which is could be a fine thing to do) but it's really weird that someone can invest $ and build and then get stopped right in the middle by the stroke of 1 guys pen.

This emphasis on the 'stroke of the pen' suggests they're doing it on a whim.

Is there not some actual logic behind the move, or did Biden just feel like signing something?

there is (environmental), and I agree with it. it just seems so stupid that so many EO's of consequence end up being ping ponged by the next admin.

Yup. This.

static111 · January 2021

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

mickeyrat · January 2021

static111 said:

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.

static111 · January 2021

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.

So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?

mrussel1 · January 2021

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.

So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?

Why would we want to Keystone?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

EdsonNascimento · January 2021

mickeyrat · January 2021

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.

So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/politics/keystone-xl-supreme-court-pipeline/index.html

mickeyrat · January 2021

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

I think I heard on NPR that the keystone could still keep going because once lawyers take it to court in hopes of an inevitable stall of the EO the work can still go on. Of course I may have misheard.

wss already stalled in Nebraska courts.

So the keystone is still going and no jobs are going to be lost?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/politics/keystone-xl-supreme-court-pipeline/index.html

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/01/22/keystone-pipeline-jobs-lost-joe-biden-executive-order-cancel-fact-check/6673822002/

#46 President Joe Biden

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