The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos · January 2021

gvn2fly1421 said:

My position is this, time to move on. The Election is over and Biden is in. Time to let everyone get their life back to normal. Time to take the masks off and get back to work. Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms. Most importantly, time to stop testing people. Period. Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it? The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all. They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering. I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not. Y’all have seen them.

Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

Got two clown responses and one thoughtful response. Is that what they call getting ratioed on Twitter? Anyways, to explain the death toll and measures not being taken, what are the explanations for New York and California which had the strictest measures of any states? As I type, Birx is on CBS talking about how Trump failed (which I agree) but why should I listen to the woman that said I should not gather for Thanksgiving and went to her lake house with her family from different households? Rules are thee, not for Debbie B!

My local news told me this morning that the CDC is recommending two masks now, because... one isn’t enough? One doesn’t do anything? Honest question, why stop at two? This ain’t the law of diminishing returns here, why should I not wear three. Before I get yelled at, I absolutely wear a mask everywhere I have to (which is essentially everywhere outside of my home) and mask compliance is 99% everywhere I go. And I am even in a red state (TN).

23scidoo · January 2021

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/12/02/covid-19-vaccines-may-not-prevent-spread-of-virus-so-mask-wearing-other-protections-still-critical/

Spiritual_Chaos · January 2021

gvn2fly1421 said:

As I type, Birx is on CBS talking about how Trump failed (which I agree) but why should I listen to the woman that said I should not gather for Thanksgiving and went to her lake house with her family from different households?

Because what she said was correct.
What she did was not.

I don't see the problem here.

Spiritual_Chaos · January 2021

"My priest once said that one should not kill other people, but now I have read that he killed his wife last night"

SO SHOULD I KILL PEOPLE OR NOT!??!?!

rgambs · January 2021

gvn2fly1421 said:

Got two clown responses and one thoughtful response. Is that what they call getting ratioed on Twitter? Anyways, to explain the death toll and measures not being taken, what are the explanations for New York and California which had the strictest measures of any states? As I type, Birx is on CBS talking about how Trump failed (which I agree) but why should I listen to the woman that said I should not gather for Thanksgiving and went to her lake house with her family from different households? Rules are thee, not for Debbie B!

My local news told me this morning that the CDC is recommending two masks now, because... one isn’t enough? One doesn’t do anything? Honest question, why stop at two? This ain’t the law of diminishing returns here, why should I not wear three. Before I get yelled at, I absolutely wear a mask everywhere I have to (which is essentially everywhere outside of my home) and mask compliance is 99% everywhere I go. And I am even in a red state (TN).

Clowns get clown responses. I wouldn't wear more than on mask, I don't think your ears can handle the extra strain unless you take your foil hat off.

99% mask compliance in TN 🤣🤣🤣

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

A lot more responses which have legitimate points, I appreciate that. To answer one question about letting the virus go undetected, do you think that is not going on now? It is almost certain that the number of “confirmed” or “probable” cases is actually probably doubled or tripled.

Got to run so I am not dodging anyone, have church (masks required) then my daughter has middle school basketball practice! Yay normalcy!

rgambs · January 2021

And to give you a non-clown response, not that it's worth my time...
Regarding New York and California, there's this little thing called population density, and it's pretty relevant to things like pesky old pandemics.

Hobbes · January 2021

Spiritual_Chaos said:

"My priest once said that one should not kill other people, but now I have read that he killed his wife last night"

SO SHOULD I KILL PEOPLE OR NOT!??!?!

Exactly. Ones ethics and morals determined by others behavior? Misguided, to me.

F Me In The Brain · January 2021

Do the middle schoolers wear masks or does 99% Tennessee not include the gauntlet that is middle school sports?
Curious to know.

Weston1283 · January 2021

I fall somewhere in the middle

I believe in continuing mask wearing pretty much indefinitely, as well as investing heavily in vaccination and encouraging the public to accept the vaccine when it is available to them. I am also ok with not resuming things such as concerts where thousands of people are crammed shoulder to shoulder inside for hours. Continue working from home if this can be easily done and does not affect performance or outcome.

But I am also really against the continuation of strict lockdowns at this point that some states still have. Restaurants and other small businesses need to be able to open at almost full capacity with patrons continuing to take precautions such as masks, hand washing, and distancing when it can be done.

cincybearcat · January 2021

Weston1283 said:

I fall somewhere in the middle

I believe in continuing mask wearing pretty much indefinitely, as well as investing heavily in vaccination and encouraging the public to accept the vaccine when it is available to them. I am also ok with not resuming things such as concerts where thousands of people are crammed shoulder to shoulder inside for hours. Continue working from home if this can be easily done and does not affect performance or outcome.

But I am also really against the continuation of strict lockdowns at this point that some states still have. Restaurants and other small businesses need to be able to open at almost full capacity with patrons continuing to take precautions such as masks, hand washing, and distancing when it can be done.

I agree with a lot of what you say except restaurants going back to business as usual. All those people are eating and drinking with no mask. I think being creative in helping those businesses is needed, but the 6’ rule and or ventilation improvements have to happen there.

Just cause it’s been a long time doesn’t mean you can ignore the risk.

Spunkie · January 2021

gvn2fly1421 said:

My position is this, time to move on. The Election is over and Biden is in. Time to let everyone get their life back to normal. Time to take the masks off and get back to work. Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms. Most importantly, time to stop testing people. Period. Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it? The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all. They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering. I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not. Y’all have seen them.

Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.

I'm not sure that disputing covid-19 science deniers is the best approch. It's recommended we:
1. Try to empathize (Gee, it sure sucks that we are not back to normal yet, have to wear masks, and have some kids remote learning. I'm glad some children can participate in some sports in some places! Your kid is lucky! School and sports are important for our youth!)
2. Point out areas where they are right (like hypocrisy and the new POTUS)
3. Hit em with facts. (Although some articles says this doesn't work. I won't bother since Weston has commented based on his expertise in the scientific community.)

Weston1283 · January 2021

cincybearcat said:

Weston1283 said:

I fall somewhere in the middle

I believe in continuing mask wearing pretty much indefinitely, as well as investing heavily in vaccination and encouraging the public to accept the vaccine when it is available to them. I am also ok with not resuming things such as concerts where thousands of people are crammed shoulder to shoulder inside for hours. Continue working from home if this can be easily done and does not affect performance or outcome.

But I am also really against the continuation of strict lockdowns at this point that some states still have. Restaurants and other small businesses need to be able to open at almost full capacity with patrons continuing to take precautions such as masks, hand washing, and distancing when it can be done.

I agree with a lot of what you say except restaurants going back to business as usual. All those people are eating and drinking with no mask. I think being creative in helping those businesses is needed, but the 6’ rule and or ventilation improvements have to happen there.

Just cause it’s been a long time doesn’t mean you can ignore the risk.

That is true. I guess a fully packed restaurant with people standing in a lobby waiting to be seated is problematic.

But Massachusetts, for example, is still at a 25% capacity limit for essentially all businesses and restaurants. I think 25% is a little harsh to be honest.... maybe 75% would be reasonable?

cincybearcat · January 2021

Weston1283 said:

cincybearcat said:

Weston1283 said:

I fall somewhere in the middle

I believe in continuing mask wearing pretty much indefinitely, as well as investing heavily in vaccination and encouraging the public to accept the vaccine when it is available to them. I am also ok with not resuming things such as concerts where thousands of people are crammed shoulder to shoulder inside for hours. Continue working from home if this can be easily done and does not affect performance or outcome.

But I am also really against the continuation of strict lockdowns at this point that some states still have. Restaurants and other small businesses need to be able to open at almost full capacity with patrons continuing to take precautions such as masks, hand washing, and distancing when it can be done.

I agree with a lot of what you say except restaurants going back to business as usual. All those people are eating and drinking with no mask. I think being creative in helping those businesses is needed, but the 6’ rule and or ventilation improvements have to happen there.

Just cause it’s been a long time doesn’t mean you can ignore the risk.

That is true. I guess a fully packed restaurant with people standing in a lobby waiting to be seated is problematic.

But Massachusetts, for example, is still at a 25% capacity limit for essentially all businesses and restaurants. I think 25% is a little harsh to be honest.... maybe 75% would be reasonable?

I don’t know what the square footage to person capacity limits are in those areas. % doesn’t mean anything without knowing that. So - can you have 6’ distance between table? That’s the limit

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

Hobbes said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

My position is this, time to move on. The Election is over and Biden is in. Time to let everyone get their life back to normal. Time to take the masks off and get back to work. Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms. Most importantly, time to stop testing people. Period. Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it? The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all. They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering. I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not. Y’all have seen them.

Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.

Because the rich got richer that means everyone should not adhere to safety measures? That doesn't make sense. We have seen a stark increase in excess deaths in the US since the pandemic began (taking into account all causes of death, not just Covid-19). 424,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Imagine the numbers had some of us not adhered to safety measures. Imagine the numbers if we do not continue to adhere to safety measures as you suggest. And as a reminder, each number is a life lost.

Perhaps suicide and other factors are contributing to those numbers. Could not post image from mobile
but check this graph.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1351406512074350594

It certainly suggests that for certain age groups deaths are up and it is not Covid. What about schools in Las Vegas seeing double the amount of suicides as the normally do? Is it worth sacrificing our youth to save people who might be less than a year from death anyways?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/mWy4OAjSA8

PJNB · January 2021

gvn2fly1421 said:

Hobbes said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

My position is this, time to move on. The Election is over and Biden is in. Time to let everyone get their life back to normal. Time to take the masks off and get back to work. Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms. Most importantly, time to stop testing people. Period. Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it? The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all. They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering. I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not. Y’all have seen them.

Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.

Because the rich got richer that means everyone should not adhere to safety measures? That doesn't make sense. We have seen a stark increase in excess deaths in the US since the pandemic began (taking into account all causes of death, not just Covid-19). 424,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Imagine the numbers had some of us not adhered to safety measures. Imagine the numbers if we do not continue to adhere to safety measures as you suggest. And as a reminder, each number is a life lost.

Perhaps suicide and other factors are contributing to those numbers. Could not post image from mobile
but check this graph.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1351406512074350594

It certainly suggests that for certain age groups deaths are up and it is not Covid. What about schools in Las Vegas seeing double the amount of suicides as the normally do? Is it worth sacrificing our youth to save people who might be less than a year from death anyways?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/mWy4OAjSA8

Why are you not posting numbers and making us go to links? Doubling sounds like a lot and any teen suicide death is one too many but we are talking 9 deaths normally to 18 deaths.

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

Spiritual_Chaos said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

As I type, Birx is on CBS talking about how Trump failed (which I agree) but why should I listen to the woman that said I should not gather for Thanksgiving and went to her lake house with her family from different households?

Because what she said was correct.
What she did was not.

I don't see the problem here.

Really? You don’t see the problem with one of the few people we are trusting to tell us how to get through the pandemic going against her own recommendation? You don’t have a problem with a Governor locking down his state and going to eat indoors at the French Laundry? You don’t have a problem being told masks save lives, yet when I get my hair done I remove it because... maybe it doesn’t make a difference?

The priest example is poor. “Murder... is a crime” sung in my best Know Your Rights voice, whereas spending the Holidays with my family is not.

Their actions tell me they are not scared of the coronavirus. Why should I be scared?

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

F Me In The Brain said:

Do the middle schoolers wear masks or does 99% Tennessee not include the gauntlet that is middle school sports?
Curious to know.

You are right. You got me. My number may be a little high. They do not wear masks but we have to as spectators.

I believe you are the one constantly posting clown gifs and said something about Trump not winning re-election.

Prepare the clown gifs, because I 100% believe that the Covid was Gods gift to the Democrats! Some of it was Donnie not handing it well, but the non stop fear porn from MSM was 100% an effort to get DJT out. And it worked!

gvn2fly1421 · January 2021

PJNB said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Hobbes said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

My position is this, time to move on. The Election is over and Biden is in. Time to let everyone get their life back to normal. Time to take the masks off and get back to work. Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms. Most importantly, time to stop testing people. Period. Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it? The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all. They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering. I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not. Y’all have seen them.

Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.

Because the rich got richer that means everyone should not adhere to safety measures? That doesn't make sense. We have seen a stark increase in excess deaths in the US since the pandemic began (taking into account all causes of death, not just Covid-19). 424,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Imagine the numbers had some of us not adhered to safety measures. Imagine the numbers if we do not continue to adhere to safety measures as you suggest. And as a reminder, each number is a life lost.

Perhaps suicide and other factors are contributing to those numbers. Could not post image from mobile
but check this graph.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1351406512074350594

It certainly suggests that for certain age groups deaths are up and it is not Covid. What about schools in Las Vegas seeing double the amount of suicides as the normally do? Is it worth sacrificing our youth to save people who might be less than a year from death anyways?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/mWy4OAjSA8

Why are you not posting numbers and making us go to links? Doubling sounds like a lot and any teen suicide death is one too many but we are talking 9 deaths normally to 18 deaths.

One Unnecessary child death is too many!

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