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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,890
    tish said:
    oftenreading said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Did y’all see where we got another vaccine death today?  RIP “Hammering” Hank Aaron.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1352655215460282370

    Does the vaccine make you immortal? 
    I heard it can make you fly but you have to know how to activate it to do so.
    Weren’t we promised teleportation? 

    Someone said that, I’m sure. I know I read it. 
    They were misquoted. It was clairvoyancy. Jeez lady enough with the fake news :)
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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    How did the US get to 400,000 deaths?  Look no further than Cook County, Illinois.  Interesting thread here.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1353097123638734850
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    How did the US get to 400,000 deaths?  Look no further than Cook County, Illinois.  Interesting thread here.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1353097123638734850
    17.4 million Americans vaccinated. Let us know when the cure is worse than the disease. Twitter, where all things are true. Gotta love it.
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  • cutz
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    josevolution said:
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Did y’all see where we got another vaccine death today?  RIP “Hammering” Hank Aaron.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1352655215460282370

    lol how uninformed are you damn dude please go to Q to post your crap , I just got my 2nd dose of vaccine today !
    And the first line  of that Tweet: I don't know what killed Hank Aaron.

    Might want to stay away from the  Doctors on  Twitter?
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Did you care to read the rest of the tweet?  The point being if the headline read that Aaron caught Covid on the 6th then died on the 22nd, he goes down as a Covid death.  I do not understand what about that tweet is controversial.  Or the other ones in this thread.  All the data is there.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Did you care to read the rest of the tweet?  The point being if the headline read that Aaron caught Covid on the 6th then died on the 22nd, he goes down as a Covid death.  I do not understand what about that tweet is controversial.  Or the other ones in this thread.  All the data is there.  

    I don't think anyone could argue that EVERY death ascribed to COVID is accurate.  This is medicine we're talking about.  Misdiagnoses are nothing new.  But none of this lessens the seriousness of COVID-19.  I hope you take it seriously.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Did you care to read the rest of the tweet?  The point being if the headline read that Aaron caught Covid on the 6th then died on the 22nd, he goes down as a Covid death.  I do not understand what about that tweet is controversial.  Or the other ones in this thread.  All the data is there.  
    Where is “there?” In the tweet? How about linking to primary sources, rather than tweets? Hmmmmm, 400K versus 360K. I’m convinced because I didn’t have to look further than Cook County. Another fake news, media-Soros-Clinton conspiracy to keep us shackled by the deep state. Freedumb.
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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    That time when Minnesota deaths are probably not all that they seem...

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-certificates-minnesota-inflated?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    That time where the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    edited January 2021
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    That time when Minnesota deaths are probably not all that they seem...

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-certificates-minnesota-inflated?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
    Stop making insinuations and come out and state your argument - otherwise, I assume we should take you at face value that your argument is that "this whole pandemic thing has been blown out of proportion". The dead and mourning might disagree with you on that one.

    From day one, it was made clear that the burden on the health care system was the most important thing to keep under control. That didn't happen. Between bungled PPE storage, production, and distribution, the politicization of mask wearing against medical expertise (what the FUCK), inexplicably poor communication to health care providers (to their own personal risk), outright lies about when vaccines would be received (leading to planning for eventualities which would never arrive), frequent cases of hospitals at or above capacity (or rejecting new patients - whether they had COVID or not) - this was an unmitigated disaster.

    If your intent is to trivialize the impact of a lethal disease which has ravaged the world and indisputably affected global life, there's no intellectual argument you will hear or accept. 
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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Let us not forget the 12,000 Americans who have died since Joe Biden took office.  We cannot ignore or become numb to these deaths.
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    My position is this, time to move on.  The Election is over and Biden is in.  Time to let everyone get their life back to normal.  Time to take the masks off and get back to work.  Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms.  Most importantly, time to stop testing people.  Period.  Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it?  The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all.  They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering.  I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not.  Y’all have seen them.  

    Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    My position is this, time to move on.  The Election is over and Biden is in.  Time to let everyone get their life back to normal.  Time to take the masks off and get back to work.  Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms.  Most importantly, time to stop testing people.  Period.  Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it?  The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all.  They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering.  I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not.  Y’all have seen them.  

    Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.
    Because the rich got richer that means everyone should not adhere to safety measures? That doesn't make sense. We have seen a stark increase in excess deaths in the US since the pandemic began (taking into account all causes of death, not just Covid-19). 424,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Imagine the numbers had some of us not adhered to safety measures. Imagine the numbers if we do not continue to adhere to safety measures as you suggest. And as a reminder, each number is a life lost.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Lol


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    You're insinuating that the pandemic and testing, masks, distancing, restrictions, etc were all about beating Donnie Diapers.
    This is crazy talk.

    This is why you see clown emojis, Q, and Trumpeter responses.  
    Nonsense.
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  • rgambs
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    My position is this, time to move on.  The Election is over and Biden is in.  Time to let everyone get their life back to normal.  Time to take the masks off and get back to work.  Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms.  Most importantly, time to stop testing people.  Period.  Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it?  The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all.  They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering.  I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not.  Y’all have seen them.  

    Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.
    Why should anyone bother disputing your obvious misinformation campaign? 
    You've already had to ignore/dismiss mountains of data and common sense to arrive at your position, there's not a chance in hell that the best laid factual argument is going to move you an inch.
    You are the worst, most insidious kind of disinformationeer...if you find data that supports your preconceived position you grab it, internalize it, and spread it.  If you come across data that refutes that preconceived position, you literally don't even see it.  It never enters your grey matter because you can't afford for it to disrupt your cognitive harmony.

    Reminds me of the climate denier I know who doesn't accept any temperature data on Earth, but points to estimates of the temperature on Mars as evidence against anthropogenic climate warming. 🤦‍♂️
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  • Zod
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    My position is this, time to move on.  The Election is over and Biden is in.  Time to let everyone get their life back to normal.  Time to take the masks off and get back to work.  Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms.  Most importantly, time to stop testing people.  Period.  Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it?  The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all.  They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering.  I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not.  Y’all have seen them.  

    Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.


    It's a valid argument but there would  be absolute consequences of doing that.  While Covid19 isn't the most lethal plague we've ever seen it is highly contagious, which means it doesn't damage in numbers.   This means if America does what you say, we'd probably see:

    1) The virus would spread undeterred, even far faster than it is now.   Even though it seems like it's spread alot, it's still 25m americans.  That means something like 310 million haven't gotten yet.  If there were 400,000 deaths on the first 25 million.   That would translate into 3.6 million more Americans dead if the thing went rampant.

    2) Hospitals would be everwhelmed.  If you got the thing, but had complications, you're probably going to die, because there won't be room at hospitals.

    3) I'm not sure which government you think just got elected, but the one that was ignoring the pandemic just go the boot.

    4) Just because someone days "everyone go back to normal" doesn't mean people will.  People are pretty aware there's a pandemic going on and would most likely not ignore it.  A significant portion of the population would probably keep trying to stay healthy regardless of such an announcement (sort of like how a large portion does the opposite and ignores health measures).

    That's about it really.   You could make an argument to go back to normal, but there would be tradeoffs.   Is a few million more deaths worth it?  I guess so.  If your making the Thanos argument.  Loosing 2% of the world population might help the planet a tiny bit, that that's also a lot of heartache.
  • PJNB
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    My position is this, time to move on.  The Election is over and Biden is in.  Time to let everyone get their life back to normal.  Time to take the masks off and get back to work.  Time to take the masks off of school kids and get them back in the classrooms.  Most importantly, time to stop testing people.  Period.  Name a disease/virus so bad that we have to test them to know they have it?  The rich/elite have made an absolute killing During this time where the common person has lost all.  They are jetting all over the world living their best life while the rest of us are locked down and suffering.  I could post numerous “Rules are for thee, not for me“ links but I will not.  Y’all have seen them.  

    Please someone dispute anything I said and leave the clown emojis and Q and Trumper stuff out of it.
    You seem to have this all figured out. I am curious though how you have not figured out we need to test healthy people with light symptoms to let them know that they are positive and to have them not spread it to someone that is more susceptible to the virus and could die. We all know the majority of healthy people that get this will be mildly inconvenienced by it. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    People arguing against safety measures are usually either 1) Dumb 2) Ill-informed.  Those that purposely continue to only seek out affirmation of their own, non-fact based decisions ...their feelings are both. 

    Just because something hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Just cause you worked 30 years without wearing safety glasses and never had an eye injury doesn’t mean they aren’t needed and save eyes.  The first thing I hear during safety incident investigations is usually “ive been doing it this way for 20 years”......

    Lets just get back to some basics:
    1) Trust science...and even lean a little to doing stuff that we think might help.
    2) Care about other people and not just yourself.  It’s ok and natural to worry about yourself...but don’t let that get in the way of the data that shows the issues.  
    3) Hold people that spread lies that injure others accountable for their actions
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