Donald Trump

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

What will be interesting to find out is if this storming of the Capitol was planned by tRump.  Remember the Proud Boys leader was at the WH a few weeks ago.  That leads to wondering whether or not the leadership of the capitol police were involved.

I'm not into conspiracies but they seemed to be massively underprepared for something they should have known might happen.

Lawrence O'Donnell said something interesting last night.  Of course he was a senior aide on Capitol Hill for years, so he would know.  Anyway he was talking about how Capitol Police are not a fighting force.  It was a comparison to say the type of cops who man a court house at city hall.  It was a nice way of saying "kind of old and out of shape".  And if you look at the footage inside the building, that definitely appears to be the case.  They look middle age and round.  

Yeah that is probably a good point.  I still can't believe this wasn't expected.  The DC police or some other unit should have been all over this.

I was hearing a lot of talk about the day the protest crowd was cleared so tRump could do his bible picture.  That seemed to get organized rather quickly.

I was reading an article the day before about how they were going on 'high alert' due to the protesters in DC.

I saw trump speak and I was certain these people were going to go down there and storm the Capital building.  It was clear.

Federally, I wonder how negligent the Trump administration is for not providing the resources to protect the capital building to begin with... and furthermore, having a plan in place to protect it.  Also, it seems pretty clear that Trump slow-played bringing in federal help because they wanted this occupation so they could delay this affirmation.  Giuliani's voice mail to not-Tuberville proves they were desperate to hold up this process.

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/markmobility/status/1347153571712806913

Rudy strikes again....what a fucking idiot

Gang that couldn't shoot straight

HughFreakingDillon said:

advice needed from fellow non-americans: how the fuck do i divorce myself from american politics? i can't fucking take it anymore. i thought and hoped the election of biden would make things better. it's not. things are going to get worse. much, much, worse. i need to be inoculated from america. 

I guarantee you it won't be as bad in a month from now, and for the next two years. Any other advice I would have is: get off the internet and take a walk in the woods.

https://youtu.be/qtNQV5jyAyA

Jearlpam0925 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

advice needed from fellow non-americans: how the fuck do i divorce myself from american politics? i can't fucking take it anymore. i thought and hoped the election of biden would make things better. it's not. things are going to get worse. much, much, worse. i need to be inoculated from america. 

I guarantee you it won't be as bad in a month from now, and for the next two years. Any other advice I would have is: get off the internet and take a walk in the woods.

Agreed....the bitching and constant conspiracy theories won't go away but those morons can be easily blocked on FB.

The daily outrage will be gone.  That will be nice.

holy shit....this is graphic but why in the hell did she keep at it when the cop with the gun was just a few feet from her?

I get the idea of holding onto some version of hope here for your America.  The divide is quite clear, but one thing that Dems and Reps seem to always say and 'agree' on is that America is the greatest country in the world.  It's not.  You're not.  You weren't before Trump, and holy hell you really aren't today.  It might be a good start if you all stop saying that. I know some on here do.. and kudos to you. That Van Jones fellow on CNN said something last night that was interesting... 'sometimes you need a total breakdown to have a breakthrough.'  That's a good point. 

Amongst the many, many many, many problems that yesterday shined a glaring light on... I couldn't help personally thinking about the media.  CNN in particular but I imagine other outlets etc.  There is enough evidence to be able to call these people "Rebels" "Insurrectionists" "Terrorists" Ok.  I get it.    But when you look at the people who 'stormed the Capitol'   (about as easy as I 'stormed' the floor to get front row in Buffalo '13 ah thank you) ... Do educated people honestly think these folks had some sort of organized agenda?   This opinion of mine could rightly be contested but I mean come on... I'm watching a group of goofballs smash into your capitol building and if I remember correctly at least 90% of the people doing it had their phones in their hands and was filming it.  That viking looking asshole? Look if this was a rebellion, terrorist act, insurrection... they would have burned that building to the ground. And I doubt they would be posing for photos doing it.  Like, I could be wrong.. but to me it seemed like a group of jolly ole' morons at a circus show acting like grade school idiots who belong in the special class...  not terrorists.  But it makes better headlines I guess to call them that.  (shrugs) 

That's a hard one to digest.  The shooter didn't see the police behind her I'm sure.

The doors are barricaded,  there is a gun pointed at you,  and yet you continue to ban the door. This is not surprising.  

Jearlpam0925 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1347076676342185984

holy shit....this is graphic but why in the hell did she keep at it when the cop with the gun was just a few feet from her?

Oh, well. Not to be a dick, but, again, these same people would support protecting your house if you felt threatened. BLUE LIVES MATTER.