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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,995
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    CM189191 said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 



    It's not for lack of opinion.  It's just hard to take you seriously when you use words like Shitties and push propaganda from Sinclair Broadcasting.
    I didn't even take the time to see who owned KOMO.  Good find...anything from Sinclair is bullshit
    sinclair is a real problem though. they buy up a lot of small tv stations and those stations are forced to show right wing propaganda shows from people like boris epshteyn (sp?) so of course these rural communities are going to be indoctrinated over time.
    Agreed...I think we are at a strange point in our history where we have to put limits on the 1st amendment. We can't rely on the public to be smart enough to filter the bullshit out. And we can't rely on advertisers to keep away because there are enough idiots and enough dark money to sustain that bullshit.
    Hold it, hold it, stop.  Just stop it.  The left runs the news stations.  Don't even try to come at this angle.  Stop making sense.

    I will say this, if you have been to Seattle over the years and see it now it is a much different place and I won't say for the better.
    the left does not run LOCAL news stations. that is the issue, because many rural areas do not have cable news.

    watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
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  • CM189191
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    CM189191 said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 



    It's not for lack of opinion.  It's just hard to take you seriously when you use words like Shitties and push propaganda from Sinclair Broadcasting.
    I didn't even take the time to see who owned KOMO.  Good find...anything from Sinclair is bullshit
    sinclair is a real problem though. they buy up a lot of small tv stations and those stations are forced to show right wing propaganda shows from people like boris epshteyn (sp?) so of course these rural communities are going to be indoctrinated over time.
    Agreed...I think we are at a strange point in our history where we have to put limits on the 1st amendment. We can't rely on the public to be smart enough to filter the bullshit out. And we can't rely on advertisers to keep away because there are enough idiots and enough dark money to sustain that bullshit.
    Hold it, hold it, stop.  Just stop it.  The left runs the news stations.  Don't even try to come at this angle.  Stop making sense.

    I will say this, if you have been to Seattle over the years and see it now it is a much different place and I won't say for the better.
    I'm sure it's still better than whatever Sh!thole Linda hails from
  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    Gern Blansten said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    https://youtu.be/WijoL3Hy_Bw

    This Doc is even more eye opening then Seattle is Dying.  This Reimagining Government, Social Services, and police is so confusing to me.  I guess one has to be WOKE to make sense of the benefits of the great Reset.  Would love hear from y’all what you think of this common theme happening in many of our Nations cities.  
    Common theme is probably related to money.  More police means more taxes.  And people like you complain about that and politicians that attempt it don't get voted in.  Because of people like you.
    Thank you for having the guts to respond.   I am pretty sure these cities in question are not hiring more Police, on the contrary they are eliminating Police positions and using those funds for social workers and community activists to deal w/ certain 911 calls.   Seems to be a triumphant  success in Seattle if one is into the reimagine thing.   
  • gimmesometruth27
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    "having enough guts to respond"??? 

    lol these threads are like calls from telemarketers. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CM189191
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    lindamarie73 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    https://youtu.be/WijoL3Hy_Bw

    This Doc is even more eye opening then Seattle is Dying.  This Reimagining Government, Social Services, and police is so confusing to me.  I guess one has to be WOKE to make sense of the benefits of the great Reset.  Would love hear from y’all what you think of this common theme happening in many of our Nations cities.  
    Common theme is probably related to money.  More police means more taxes.  And people like you complain about that and politicians that attempt it don't get voted in.  Because of people like you.
    Thank you for having the guts to respond.   I am pretty sure these cities in question are not hiring more Police, on the contrary they are eliminating Police positions and using those funds for social workers and community activists to deal w/ certain 911 calls.   Seems to be a triumphant  success in Seattle if one is into the reimagine thing.   

    The US imprisons more people than any other country in the world.  

    More police isn't the answer.
  • brianlux
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    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 



    Fair enough but like gimme pointed out, "Shitties" is not the kind of term that encourages discussion. 

    But that aside, yes, some of our big cities are struggling.  I don't think this as anything new though and it seems to go in cycles.  Take San Francisco, for example.  In the 50's and 60's, I went to the city a couple times a year with my folks and when I was old enough to go alone, with friends.  It was a fine city with very few problems.  I moved to the city in 1969 and lived there until 1973.  That was a time when the city was starting to deteriorate.  I worked at a few different jobs downtown and the place was depressing and a run-down mess. 

    By the 80's, San Francisco had rejuvenated and was a great place to spend time again.  But when the dot.com boom hit, it became a place of wealthy business people and wide-spread homes camps- a real mixed bag.  As more of the electronics workers are moving to work from home, rents are becoming more affordable and I'm guessing the city will reach a better balance again.

    Much the same happened in Oakland.

    From what I've read, New York City has also gone through these up and down transitions.  Probably other big cities as well.

    Cities rise and fall- it's been that way since ancient Athens and Rome.

    And in the not-to-distant future, I think the biggest problem areas will shift to the suburbs which will become unsustainable as energy sources become a problem as a result of peak oil.  And peak oil is a lot like global warming- something many are in denial about. 

    It's a shifting world.  It's too bad Seattle is having problems now, but I don't think that's anything new.  When I live an hour and a half from Seattle from 1990 to 1994, a lot of downtown Seattle was not a pleasant place to be- not to me anyway.  I'd seen better days there.
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  • nicknyr15
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    Not taking sides here because I couldn’t care less but I see no difference in Shitties, freedumb and Murica. Dumb nicknames that mock both sides. 
  • Bentleyspop
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    CM189191 said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 



    It's not for lack of opinion.  It's just hard to take you seriously when you use words like Shitties and push propaganda from Sinclair Broadcasting.
    I didn't even take the time to see who owned KOMO.  Good find...anything from Sinclair is bullshit
    sinclair is a real problem though. they buy up a lot of small tv stations and those stations are forced to show right wing propaganda shows from people like boris epshteyn (sp?) so of course these rural communities are going to be indoctrinated over time.
    Agreed...I think we are at a strange point in our history where we have to put limits on the 1st amendment. We can't rely on the public to be smart enough to filter the bullshit out. And we can't rely on advertisers to keep away because there are enough idiots and enough dark money to sustain that bullshit.
    Hold it, hold it, stop.  Just stop it.  The left runs the news stations.  Don't even try to come at this angle.  Stop making sense.

    I will say this, if you have been to Seattle over the years and see it now it is a much different place and I won't say for the better.
    Just to be clear it is The Jews who control the media,  governments, and the financial systems.

    Seattle has definitely changed. It's a beautiful city but very sad.
  • Go Beavers
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    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 


    I didn't click the link, but if you’re wondering about social services and tge police, in Eugene, OR an agency has been taking the mental health 911 calls for about 30 years. They end up picking up about 20% of the calls and save the city millions in the meantime. It’s not very confusing and I don’t know why it doesn’t get more coverage at the national level. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Not taking sides here because I couldn’t care less but I see no difference in Shitties, freedumb and Murica. Dumb nicknames that mock both sides. 
    Because both sides are the same, eh?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Because it’s soul needs saving. 

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    CM189191 said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 



    It's not for lack of opinion.  It's just hard to take you seriously when you use words like Shitties and push propaganda from Sinclair Broadcasting.
    I didn't even take the time to see who owned KOMO.  Good find...anything from Sinclair is bullshit
    sinclair is a real problem though. they buy up a lot of small tv stations and those stations are forced to show right wing propaganda shows from people like boris epshteyn (sp?) so of course these rural communities are going to be indoctrinated over time.
    Agreed...I think we are at a strange point in our history where we have to put limits on the 1st amendment. We can't rely on the public to be smart enough to filter the bullshit out. And we can't rely on advertisers to keep away because there are enough idiots and enough dark money to sustain that bullshit.
    Hold it, hold it, stop.  Just stop it.  The left runs the news stations.  Don't even try to come at this angle.  Stop making sense.

    I will say this, if you have been to Seattle over the years and see it now it is a much different place and I won't say for the better.
    the left does not run LOCAL news stations. that is the issue, because many rural areas do not have cable news.

    watch this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
    Missed my sarcasm huh?
  • tempo_n_groove
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Because it’s soul needs saving. 

    You think the dip in crime has anything to do w people not out and about?
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    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 


    Hi @lindamarie73 !
    Who won the election? Genuinely curious as to your answer. Please advise. 
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    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 


    Hi @lindamarie73 !
    Who won the election? Genuinely curious as to your answer. Please advise. 
    I would argue that the silence from the right in addressing the attack on our democracy and election integrity is far more concerning than the silence about anything that's currently happening in any one American city. 
  • The Juggler
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    Merkin Baller said:
    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 


    Hi @lindamarie73 !
    Who won the election? Genuinely curious as to your answer. Please advise. 
    I would argue that the silence from the right in addressing the attack on our democracy and election integrity is far more concerning than the silence about anything that's currently happening in any one American city. 
    You would be correct.
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    Merkin Baller said:
    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Apparently nobody has a opinion about this other then making a joke about it , I should have known better.  The silence about addressing this shocking transition to many of our Shitties says it all.   Merry Xmas y’all 


    Hi @lindamarie73 !
    Who won the election? Genuinely curious as to your answer. Please advise. 
    I would argue that the silence from the right in addressing the attack on our democracy and election integrity is far more concerning than the silence about anything that's currently happening in any one American city. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Because it’s soul needs saving. 

    You think the dip in crime has anything to do w people not out and about?
    Don't know. 2020 is lower than 2019 but higher than 2018. I don't recall anyone screaming about saving Seattle's soul back in 2019. It could be the 100 extra officers the new chief put out on the street. It could be the stimulus. It could be promise of police and other reforms or a combination of things, like it usually is to contributors to crime rates and solutions to crime rates.

    What I find interesting is that there are probably 50+ other US cities with higher crime rates than Seattle's but nobody is screaming that they have lost their soul or have fallen. Why is that? Hint: 2 reasons and one begins with C and the other with A.
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