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nicknyr15 said:
Fair point for sure. To be fair I have a paint store. But I’m surrounded by a lot of restaurants and see how bad they’re struggling. It’s upsetting.CM189191 said:
I agree with you: Massage parlors, barbershops, nail salons, gyms should also be closed.nicknyr15 said:
Massage parlors, barbershops, nail salons, gyms all remain open. You can have your opinion, I’ll have mine. You work from home? I’d bet you’d have a different opinion if you owned or worked at a restaurant.CM189191 said:
18,804,000 million peoplenicknyr15 said:
1.34% is the rate of transmission for indoor dining during this second wave. That’s it. It makes no sense.bbiggs said:
I feel your pain. I've listened to all of the explanations and there's nothing that will help me understand how indoor gyms are safe and restaurants are not (take bars out of the equation).nicknyr15 said:
Yes. Our governor is an asshole. But make sure you pick up his new book! About being a leader during a pandemic. Even though the pandemic is not over.bbiggs said:
Are gyms allowed to stay open?tempo_n_groove said:
*1.34% rate of transmission
*4.3% NY deaths/cases
Well that's *only* 10,900 dead
What's the big deal? Makes no sense....
Here's what's wrong with your opinion: you think the shutdown only affects you. You think it only affects restaurants. It affects everyone. Yes I work from home, in commercial insurance, in risk management. Many of our clients are restaurants. Our client's business gets affected, our business gets affected.
I hear you, it is upsetting. Opening restaurants right now ain't the answer though.0 -
This is how some think....we may never get moving forward again.

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I’m not sure which side you’re arguing, from your comment.elvistheking44 said:This is how some think....we may never get moving forward again.
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Also don’t think anyone actually thinks that.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Not for you.tempo_n_groove said:
Over the rainbow.oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:
Mine was clearly sarcastic, with you, no one knows?oftenreading said:
You did tootempo_n_groove said:
You missed the sarcasm apparently...oftenreading said:
If it makes you happy.tempo_n_groove said:
Unfollowing AOC and Obama now!oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:
advice: don't follow Theo Fleury on twitter. he's the Aubrey Huff of Canadian social media athlete politics.oftenreading said:
And more on that theme - conservatives last week were irate that Canada wouldn't receive vaccine until the first quarter of 2021, complaining that government incompetency meant we were destined to be one of the "have not" countries. Now that the process of review and approval has gone smoother than expected and vaccine is expected to arrive next week, the conservatives are screaming that the federal government "lied" to the public about the timeline so "how can the public trust them on anything?". Getting your digs in supersedes being pleased about a positive outcome for the country.dignin said:
Conservatives here were raging that he didn't get enough, now they are raging that he got too much. Even though it has been explicitly stated that we will be giving to less fortunate countries.Merkin Baller said:
You're upset that Trudeau acquired too many vaccines?Meltdown99 said:Rich nations, like Canada, have bought too many coronavirus vaccines: Amnesty International - National | Globalnews.ca
Math is not the Prime Minister's strength. Corruption is more of his strength....
Turns out conservatives in Canada share many characteristics as conservatives in the US. One of them being no shame.
advice: don't assume anyone else is on twitter.
This was also sarcastic and looking for a song lyric to follow...
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What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Sure am glad new cases have plateaued so close to Christmas.

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I love to eat at restaurants and we have gone since March with no visits to one. It is unfortunate and I do feel for the owners but agree that this is a pretty straightforward precaution for people to takergambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
Out of my work and personal circle of people I would guess the number of people who feel this way is less than 10%.
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Aside from the 195% part, which was the joke, there are tons of people out there that believe that they will be just fine without the vaccine.oftenreading said:Also don’t think anyone actually thinks that.0 -
I hope you don’t go out to eat only because you don’t want to cook.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.0 -
I am hoping that I don't have to get the vaccine.elvistheking44 said:
Aside from the 195% part, which was the joke, there are tons of people out there that believe that they will be just fine without the vaccine.oftenreading said:Also don’t think anyone actually thinks that.
Why? How quick the vaccine was made and wondering about any side effects. I would rather not be the person calling that 1800 hotline 10 years from now after watching on TV the "Did you take the blah blah vaccine for Covid in 2020? If so you may be entitled to compensation."
I'll follow the science though and if/when I can get it, everyone is fine, I'll get it.0 -
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i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL
has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Yeah, I'm sure that is why a lot of people go out, but I also see a lot of people on their phones anyway and not really maximizing social interaction. Can't say I'm a big fan of eating out unless it's for convenience at this point in my life. Over priced meals and booze that would have been about $10 at home and we can still relax and have a good time without feeling rushed to get home to a babysitter we're also paying out the ass for. Date night ends up being like $200. I'd rather use that time to hike, bike, ski, snowshoe or whatever other physical activity there is to do based on the weather. Maybe even some horizontal or vertical dancingHughFreakingDillon said:
i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL
has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time.
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HughFreakingDillon said:
i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL
has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time.Yuck. Have not eaten at a McDonald's KFC type of fast food drive through joint since 2003 and I never will again.Going to go out on a limb and guess that Gambs doesn't put that garbage in his body, either.Straight up poison. I don't even consider that food.I love eating at restaurants for myriad reasons, one of which is that I get the night off. Own up to that, no problem.Look forward to when I can eat food other people cooked again - but until then I will continue avoiding.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
My boss needs to pick up my vinylplayer and a stack of vinyl to be used in a video shoot.
Problem 1) Keeping the distance when he shows up and 2) have to clean my apartment because my boss is gonna have to step inside it
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Yeah, I like to eat at restaurants for similar reasons. We do it (well, did it) once a week. I'd do it more if not for the cost, time, and caloric intake. It's a form of entertainment. If one was to stick to the 100% perfect diet 100% of the time, one would never go to a restaurant. But even those that don't do less-than-ideal things at home.For the health of America, I'd eliminate the soda industry well before I'd eliminate the restaurant industry.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine 2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin 2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley 2025 Nashville (II)0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:My boss needs to pick up my vinylplayer and a stack of vinyl to be used in a video shoot.
Problem 1) Keeping the distance when he shows up and 2) have to clean my apartment because my boss is gonna have to step inside it
THIS IS DISTURBING MY QUARANTINE
Just have him call you when he is about there and put in on your doorstep. This seems pretty easy. If he understands you are in quarantine he should be fine with it. If he isn't, he is not a nice guy.
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i know he doesn't, but i thought maybe he was referring to that type of eating out when referring to people who do as "lazy".F Me In The Brain said:HughFreakingDillon said:
i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL
has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time.Yuck. Have not eaten at a McDonald's KFC type of fast food drive through joint since 2003 and I never will again.Going to go out on a limb and guess that Gambs doesn't put that garbage in his body, either.Straight up poison. I don't even consider that food.I love eating at restaurants for myriad reasons, one of which is that I get the night off. Own up to that, no problem.Look forward to when I can eat food other people cooked again - but until then I will continue avoiding.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
not sure why hiking and eating out are mutually exclusive. people like what they like. my wife and I, and a lot of other people, love the occasional nice meal out. we also enjoy a great hike.tbergs said:
Yeah, I'm sure that is why a lot of people go out, but I also see a lot of people on their phones anyway and not really maximizing social interaction. Can't say I'm a big fan of eating out unless it's for convenience at this point in my life. Over priced meals and booze that would have been about $10 at home and we can still relax and have a good time without feeling rushed to get home to a babysitter we're also paying out the ass for. Date night ends up being like $200. I'd rather use that time to hike, bike, ski, snowshoe or whatever other physical activity there is to do based on the weather. Maybe even some horizontal or vertical dancingHughFreakingDillon said:
i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine.rgambs said:
What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lolnicknyr15 said:
Ridiculous imo.tempo_n_groove said:Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!
We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.
sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL
has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time.
you can do both. and can't wait until we CAN do both again without restriction.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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