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    nicknyr15 said:
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    Fair point for sure. To be fair I have a paint store. But I’m surrounded by a lot of restaurants and see how bad they’re struggling. It’s upsetting. 

    I hear you, it is upsetting. Opening restaurants right now ain't the answer though. 
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    This is how some think....we may never get moving forward again.



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    elvistheking44 said:
    This is how some think....we may never get moving forward again.



    I’m not sure which side you’re arguing, from your comment. 
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Also don’t think anyone actually thinks that. 
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    Over the rainbow.
    Not for you. 
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    nicknyr15 said:
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    Ridiculous imo. 
    What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lol
    Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!  
    We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.  

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    Sure am glad new cases have plateaued so close to Christmas.


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    rgambs said:
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    What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lol
    Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!  
    We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.  

    I love to eat at restaurants and we have gone since March with no visits to one.  It is unfortunate and I do feel for the owners but agree that this is a pretty straightforward precaution for people to take 
    Out of my work and personal circle of people I would guess the number of people who feel this way is less than 10%.

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    oftenreading said:
    Also don’t think anyone actually thinks that. 
    Aside from the 195% part, which was the joke, there are tons of people out there that believe that they will be just fine without the vaccine. 
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    rgambs said:
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    What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lol
    Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!  
    We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.  

    I hope you don’t go out to eat only because you don’t want to cook. 
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    elvistheking44 said:
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    Aside from the 195% part, which was the joke, there are tons of people out there that believe that they will be just fine without the vaccine. 
    I am hoping that I don't have to get the vaccine.  

    Why?  How quick the vaccine was made and wondering about any side effects.  I would rather not be the person calling that 1800 hotline 10 years from now after watching on TV the "Did you take the blah blah vaccine for Covid in 2020?  If so you may be entitled to compensation."

    I'll follow the science though and if/when I can get it, everyone is fine, I'll get it.
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    Get gubmint off our backs! Make them stop stepping on my neck! Defund the gubmint! Cut taxes, strangle the gubmint in the bathtub! Kill it! But don't take my social security or medicaid away, please. 'Murica.

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    Before Covid-19, the record for the fastest vaccine development — for mumps — was four years. Most vaccines have required more than a decade of research and experimentation.
    Yet yesterday morning, less than a year after the discovery of Covid, a critical care nurse in Queens named Sandra Lindsay became the first American to participate in the mass vaccination program for the coronavirus. “I feel like healing is coming,” she said afterward.

    It is a stunning story of scientific success.
    It also fits a pattern that stretches back decades: Many of the biggest technological breakthroughs in American history have not sprung from the private sector. They have instead been the result of collaboration between private companies and the federal government.

    The Defense Department, after all, built the internet. Government research and development also led to transistors, silicon chips, radar, jet airplanes, satellites, artificial limbs, cortisone, flat screens and much more, as the M.I.T. economists Jonathan Gruber and Simon Johnson point out in their recent book, “Jump-Starting America.”

    “Almost everything about your computer today — and the way you use it — stems from government funding at the early stages,” Gruber and Johnson write.

    Why? Because basic research is usually too uncertain and expensive for any one company to afford. Often, it isn’t even clear which future products the research may create. No kitchen appliance company ever would have thought to do the military research that led to the microwave oven.

    With Covid, the vaccines from both Pfizer and Moderna rely on years of government-funded (and sometimes government-conducted) research into viral proteins and genetics. That research, Kaiser Health News explains, is “the essential ingredient in the rapid development of vaccines in response to Covid-19.”

    The federal help accelerated this year. The government funded Moderna’s work in recent months, as part of the billions of dollars it spent to make possible a record-breaking vaccine, The Atlantic’s Ed Yong writes. And while Pfizer turned down direct federal funding, it asked for the government’s help in procuring supplies and also signed a $1.95 billion “advance purchase” agreement with Washington.

    As my colleague Neil Irwin has written: “The nine months of the pandemic have shown that in a modern state, capitalism can save the day — but only when the government exercises its power to guide the economy and act as the ultimate absorber of risk. The lesson of Covid capitalism is that big business needs big government, and vice versa.”

    What are the lessons for the post-Covid world? Solving the biggest challenges, like climate change, will almost certainly depend on a combination of public-sector funding and private-sector ingenuity.
    Yet as Gruber and Johnson note, federal funding of science has become a smaller part of the U.S. economy than it used to be. Which means the Covid vaccine is both an inspiring success and something of an exception. “On its current course,” the economists write, “America seems unlikely to continue its dominance of invention.”

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    rgambs said:
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    What strikes me as ridiculous is the degree to which our society and economy depends on and revolves around people being too lazy to cook for themselves lol
    Obviously I don't want to see businesses closing and people losing livelihoods, but there are too many damn restaurants to begin with!  
    We are approaching a year since we have eaten take out (with the exception of a single pizza from our favorite joint for a birthday celebration) and it really isn't a big deal, even with full time jobs.  

    i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine. 

    sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL

    has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time. 
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine. 

    sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL

    has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time. 
    Yeah, I'm sure that is why a lot of people go out, but I also see a lot of people on their phones anyway and not really maximizing social interaction. Can't say I'm a big fan of eating out unless it's for convenience at this point in my life. Over priced meals and booze that would have been about $10 at home and we can still relax and have a good time without feeling rushed to get home to a babysitter we're also paying out the ass for. Date night ends up being like $200. I'd rather use that time to hike, bike, ski, snowshoe or whatever other physical activity there is to do based on the weather. Maybe even some horizontal or vertical dancing ;)
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    i suppose if you're referring to KFC and mcdonald's, maybe. but my wife and I love to go out and share a nice dinner that is cooked for us to perfection, while we sit and relax with a glass of wine. 

    sometimes we even like to take the kids. LOL

    has zero to do with laziness. it's about enjoying each other's time. 

    Yuck.  Have not eaten at a McDonald's KFC type of fast food drive through joint since 2003 and I never will again.

    Going to go out on a limb and guess that Gambs doesn't put that garbage in his body, either. 

    Straight up poison.  I don't even consider that food. 

    I love eating at restaurants for myriad reasons, one of which is that I get the night off.  Own up to that, no problem. 
    Look forward to when I can eat food other people cooked again - but until then I will continue avoiding. 
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    My boss needs to pick up my vinylplayer and a stack of vinyl to be used in a video shoot. 

    Problem 1) Keeping the distance when he shows up and 2) have to clean my apartment because my boss is gonna have to step inside it

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  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Yeah, I like to eat at restaurants for similar reasons. We do it (well, did it) once a week.  I'd do it more if not for the cost, time, and caloric intake. It's a form of entertainment. If one was to stick to the 100% perfect diet 100% of the time, one would never go to a restaurant. But even those that don't do less-than-ideal things at home.

    For the health of America, I'd eliminate the soda industry well before I'd eliminate the restaurant industry.
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    My boss needs to pick up my vinylplayer and a stack of vinyl to be used in a video shoot. 

    Problem 1) Keeping the distance when he shows up and 2) have to clean my apartment because my boss is gonna have to step inside it

    THIS IS DISTURBING MY QUARANTINE

    Just have him call you when he is about there and put in on your doorstep.  This seems pretty easy.  If he understands you are in quarantine he should be fine with it.  If he isn't, he is not a nice guy.
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    F Me In The Brain said:
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    Yuck.  Have not eaten at a McDonald's KFC type of fast food drive through joint since 2003 and I never will again.

    Going to go out on a limb and guess that Gambs doesn't put that garbage in his body, either. 

    Straight up poison.  I don't even consider that food. 

    I love eating at restaurants for myriad reasons, one of which is that I get the night off.  Own up to that, no problem. 
    Look forward to when I can eat food other people cooked again - but until then I will continue avoiding. 
    i know he doesn't, but i thought maybe he was referring to that type of eating out when referring to people who do as "lazy". 
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    tbergs said:
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    Yeah, I'm sure that is why a lot of people go out, but I also see a lot of people on their phones anyway and not really maximizing social interaction. Can't say I'm a big fan of eating out unless it's for convenience at this point in my life. Over priced meals and booze that would have been about $10 at home and we can still relax and have a good time without feeling rushed to get home to a babysitter we're also paying out the ass for. Date night ends up being like $200. I'd rather use that time to hike, bike, ski, snowshoe or whatever other physical activity there is to do based on the weather. Maybe even some horizontal or vertical dancing ;)
    not sure why hiking and eating out are mutually exclusive. people like what they like. my wife and I, and a lot of other people, love the occasional nice meal out. we also enjoy a great hike. 

    you can do both. and can't wait until we CAN do both again without restriction. 
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