Proud Boys use Toys For Tots drive to promote their hate group in our town.
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Bentleyspop said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:mickeyrat said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?
yep. channeling chappelle show?
They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.
It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people. It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's. I just don't get that aspect...Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about. Here is what they say about Proud Boys:Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.More at link:
I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them. I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive. That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
and a reporter could reword things.
If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.
A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.
You know, because people want to lynch journalists now. And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys. Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.
It really is an all over the place group.These characteristics are consistent within this group:Spreading hateWhite NationalistMisogynistAnti-MuslimBigotedExtremistYou almost sound taken by this group. That so, or my misunderstanding?
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.
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gimmesometruth27 said:in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.
i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
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brianlux said:Bentleyspop said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:mickeyrat said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?
yep. channeling chappelle show?
They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.
It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people. It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's. I just don't get that aspect...Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about. Here is what they say about Proud Boys:Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.More at link:
I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them. I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive. That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
and a reporter could reword things.
If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.
A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.
You know, because people want to lynch journalists now. And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys. Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.
It really is an all over the place group.These characteristics are consistent within this group:Spreading hateWhite NationalistMisogynistAnti-MuslimBigotedExtremistYou almost sound taken by this group. That so, or my misunderstanding?
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.0 -
Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:Bentleyspop said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:mickeyrat said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?
yep. channeling chappelle show?
They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.
It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people. It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's. I just don't get that aspect...Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about. Here is what they say about Proud Boys:Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.More at link:
I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them. I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive. That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
and a reporter could reword things.
If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.
A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.
You know, because people want to lynch journalists now. And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys. Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.
It really is an all over the place group.These characteristics are consistent within this group:Spreading hateWhite NationalistMisogynistAnti-MuslimBigotedExtremistYou almost sound taken by this group. That so, or my misunderstanding?
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.Agreed!I'm particularly angry with this Proud Boys faction of supporters for Idiot in Chief and all that is hateful as their antics are driving people away from our little downtown area where small business is struggling hard to stay afloat. These asshole don't give two shits about anything other than grabbing all the attention they can get and spreading their hate. Pure evil."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:
You forgot...supporters of the current president
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.Agreed!I'm particularly angry with this Proud Boys faction of supporters for Idiot in Chief and all that is hateful as their antics are driving people away from our little downtown area where small business is struggling hard to stay afloat. These asshole don't give two shits about anything other than grabbing all the attention they can get and spreading their hate. Pure evil.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:gimmesometruth27 said:in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.
i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
Half.
There are a whole bunch of people that think a certain way and aren't really thrilled about progressing.
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Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:gimmesometruth27 said:in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.
i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
Half.
There are a whole bunch of people that think a certain way and aren't really thrilled about progressing.
Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat lost. He's a loser.Everything you say is true.But Tempo's point still stands. Nearly half of all Americans support Trump. Consistently 40%. And while his numbers being that low is historically bad, it's still an indication of who we are as a nation. Even if it mattered that a majority of Americans doesn't like Trump (it doesn't), away from the polls, I'm not sure that your numbers are that distinguishable from 50/50.
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OnWis97 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:gimmesometruth27 said:in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.
i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
Half.
There are a whole bunch of people that think a certain way and aren't really thrilled about progressing.
Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat lost. He's a loser.Everything you say is true.But Tempo's point still stands. Nearly half of all Americans support Trump. Consistently 40%. And while his numbers being that low is historically bad, it's still an indication of who we are as a nation. Even if it mattered that a majority of Americans doesn't like Trump (it doesn't), away from the polls, I'm not sure that your numbers are that distinguishable from 50/50.0 -
OnWis97 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:gimmesometruth27 said:in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.
i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
Half.
There are a whole bunch of people that think a certain way and aren't really thrilled about progressing.
Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat lost. He's a loser.Everything you say is true.But Tempo's point still stands. Nearly half of all Americans support Trump. Consistently 40%. And while his numbers being that low is historically bad, it's still an indication of who we are as a nation. Even if it mattered that a majority of Americans doesn't like Trump (it doesn't), away from the polls, I'm not sure that your numbers are that distinguishable from 50/50.
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tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:
You forgot...supporters of the current president
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.Agreed!I'm particularly angry with this Proud Boys faction of supporters for Idiot in Chief and all that is hateful as their antics are driving people away from our little downtown area where small business is struggling hard to stay afloat. These asshole don't give two shits about anything other than grabbing all the attention they can get and spreading their hate. Pure evil.
I'm not sure exactly what the law here says on that but I think it's mostly for indoor groups. But if they were in violation, it would not be held. There were cops at that rally and they did nothing and there is even some indication that although our mayor said they were not welcome, the police here seem favorable toward Proud Boys. No surprise here in one of the conservative strongholds in California. The El Dorado County Sheriff's Department has previously said it would not enforce some of the protective measures against COVID. Is it any wonder I feel like a stranger in a strange land?!
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brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:
You forgot...supporters of the current president
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.Agreed!I'm particularly angry with this Proud Boys faction of supporters for Idiot in Chief and all that is hateful as their antics are driving people away from our little downtown area where small business is struggling hard to stay afloat. These asshole don't give two shits about anything other than grabbing all the attention they can get and spreading their hate. Pure evil.
I'm not sure exactly what the law here says on that but I think it's mostly for indoor groups. But if they were in violation, it would not be held. There were cops at that rally and they did nothing and there is even some indication that although our mayor said they were not welcome, the police here seem favorable toward Proud Boys. No surprise here in one of the conservative strongholds in California. The El Dorado County Sheriff's Department has previously said it would not enforce some of the protective measures against COVID. Is it any wonder I feel like a stranger in a strange land?!
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Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:brianlux said:
You forgot...supporters of the current president
Yes, that and divisive. Their entire approach to things is all about pissing people off by trolling anyone who is not on the radical right and thus widening the gap. These are mean spirited, hate filled, nasty human beings.Agreed!I'm particularly angry with this Proud Boys faction of supporters for Idiot in Chief and all that is hateful as their antics are driving people away from our little downtown area where small business is struggling hard to stay afloat. These asshole don't give two shits about anything other than grabbing all the attention they can get and spreading their hate. Pure evil.
I'm not sure exactly what the law here says on that but I think it's mostly for indoor groups. But if they were in violation, it would not be held. There were cops at that rally and they did nothing and there is even some indication that although our mayor said they were not welcome, the police here seem favorable toward Proud Boys. No surprise here in one of the conservative strongholds in California. The El Dorado County Sheriff's Department has previously said it would not enforce some of the protective measures against COVID. Is it any wonder I feel like a stranger in a strange land?!For sure.Look who else was hanging with these idiots:
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The police here aren’t doing too much in terms of home and even outside/non-business gatherings, and not because of politics (that’s possible, you know!) but moreso that other local - and fucked up - crimes have taken precedence.0
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hedonist said:The police here aren’t doing too much in terms of home and even outside/non-business gatherings, and not because of politics (that’s possible, you know!) but moreso that other local - and fucked up - crimes have taken precedence.
Any idea what's contributing to the increase in crime? Is it maybe because of unemployment due to COVID?
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brianlux said:hedonist said:The police here aren’t doing too much in terms of home and even outside/non-business gatherings, and not because of politics (that’s possible, you know!) but moreso that other local - and fucked up - crimes have taken precedence.
Any idea what's contributing to the increase in crime? Is it maybe because of unemployment due to COVID?Due to COVIDMore like opportunity to be a dick.
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The Proud Boys can go fuck themselves.
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hedonist said:brianlux said:hedonist said:The police here aren’t doing too much in terms of home and even outside/non-business gatherings, and not because of politics (that’s possible, you know!) but moreso that other local - and fucked up - crimes have taken precedence.
Any idea what's contributing to the increase in crime? Is it maybe because of unemployment due to COVID?Due to COVIDMore like opportunity to be a dick.
Lotta chaos going down these days, that's for sure.Glorified KC said:The Proud Boys can go fuck themselves.
I obviously have to admit, that's pretty much how I feel. But at the same time, I am going to try very hard to not project my feeling that way directly to anyone who is a Proud Boy because I'm quite taken by the efforts my wife and her business partner are putting out there to speak out against hate and promote love. They're looking into selling bumper stickers that read "El Dorado County is Too Great for Hate" and donating all the proceeds the the Southern Poverty Law Center."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
eh let em secede. most of those states take more federal tax dollars than they pay in, so whatever.
butthurt gonna butthurt."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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hedonist said:The police here aren’t doing too much in terms of home and even outside/non-business gatherings, and not because of politics (that’s possible, you know!) but moreso that other local - and fucked up - crimes have taken precedence.0
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gimmesometruth27 said:eh let em secede. most of those states take more federal tax dollars than they pay in, so whatever.
butthurt gonna butthurt.
For sure. The problem is, there are a lot of good people in those states that are talking about seceding (and being encouraged to do so by the likes of Rush Limp Bahh and would suffer more because of it. There are thousands, maybe millions of good people in those states who would either be stuck there due to economic hardship or would become refugees. I am so fucking thankful not to be stuck in one of those places. Talk about being privileged!
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