Thread was closed because some people couldn’t handle it. Explanation of over reaching ideas.

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

People might be surprised to learn that the OP argument is the same BS I hear right here in Alberta all.the.time. There are Trump fans here and it’s downright sickening. 
Conservatism generally sticks specifically to economics although there are a few anti-abortion billboards in the southern-Alberta Bible Belt. Lots of Mormons down there. 

my cousin is from saskatchewan. grew up with a silver spoon, highly religious (his father is the trump fan in my family). his wife is from alberta. i made some "fuck the oil industry" post on facebook a few years back and she was NOT HAPPY. her whole family comes from the fields. they seem to think that the oil industry is the be all end all of existence. 

they make shit tonnes of money and hate the idea of sharing with the rest of canada but when the industry suffers all of a sudden they're looking for handouts from the rest of us. 

maybe sell a few of your fleet of pickups and you should be ok. 

those that brag about how much money they make without a degree are all of sudden terrified and angry at the prospect of being without a job and no education to fall back on. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

People might be surprised to learn that the OP argument is the same BS I hear right here in Alberta all.the.time. There are Trump fans here and it’s downright sickening. 
Conservatism generally sticks specifically to economics although there are a few anti-abortion billboards in the southern-Alberta Bible Belt. Lots of Mormons down there. 

my cousin is from saskatchewan. grew up with a silver spoon, highly religious (his father is the trump fan in my family). his wife is from alberta. i made some "fuck the oil industry" post on facebook a few years back and she was NOT HAPPY. her whole family comes from the fields. they seem to think that the oil industry is the be all end all of existence. 

they make shit tonnes of money and hate the idea of sharing with the rest of canada but when the industry suffers all of a sudden they're looking for handouts from the rest of us. 

maybe sell a few of your fleet of pickups and you should be ok. 

those that brag about how much money they make without a degree are all of sudden terrified and angry at the prospect of being without a job and no education to fall back on. 

Does having a formal education even matter? Many without one have fared from okay to fantastic, economy notwithstanding. 

it's the attitude of those I've come across who work "in the fields". they mock those who "waste their time" going to school when they are making 6 figures in their early 20's, then turn around and cry when they realize they have nothing to fall back on. 

I'm not mocking the poorly educated. I'm one of them. I'm mocking the idiots who brag about it and then come to realize making tones of cash without a backup is risky. 

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

People might be surprised to learn that the OP argument is the same BS I hear right here in Alberta all.the.time. There are Trump fans here and it’s downright sickening. 
Conservatism generally sticks specifically to economics although there are a few anti-abortion billboards in the southern-Alberta Bible Belt. Lots of Mormons down there. 

my cousin is from saskatchewan. grew up with a silver spoon, highly religious (his father is the trump fan in my family). his wife is from alberta. i made some "fuck the oil industry" post on facebook a few years back and she was NOT HAPPY. her whole family comes from the fields. they seem to think that the oil industry is the be all end all of existence. 

they make shit tonnes of money and hate the idea of sharing with the rest of canada but when the industry suffers all of a sudden they're looking for handouts from the rest of us. 

maybe sell a few of your fleet of pickups and you should be ok. 

those that brag about how much money they make without a degree are all of sudden terrified and angry at the prospect of being without a job and no education to fall back on. 

I think the biggest problem with most people is how we label ourselves. Remember in the early 90s the bands would cringe when the word grunge was used? They didn’t want to be labelled.... and I could understand why.  You are an artist, your music is different than your contemporaries and you don’t want to be lumped together under some umbrella that’s easier to market and sell. 

Humans in general don’t seem to look at this like artists do.  I tend to think of myself as a human who won the birth-lottery and was born in Canada and that happened to be near Jasper National Park in the province of Alberta.  Of everywhere in the world I could have been born... I mean, how fortunate. 

Many Albertans identify themselves as Albertans and conservatives and that it is some sort of birth-right they have and people with liberal
ideals will take away all their “human rights”. This oil is ours and screw Ottawa (all other Canadians essentially) for not thanking us for the transfer payments we sent from the sheer luck of having plenty of this natural resource. This is stuff geologically created over the billions of years in the earth... long before any of us. 

So as soon as you label yourself you have lumped yourself together and are now easier to market and sell. The politicians aren’t stupid. Kenney is just the latest example of political-opportunism in this province. Shows up from federal politics with his blue dodge pickup and let’s everyone know he is going to “save the day”.  Essentially, Kenney is about as Trump-like as a Canadian can get. He could easily have worn a blue and yellow MAGA hat. (Make Alberta Great Again).  And this is the mentality I discussed earlier and what you described with your wife and in-laws. 

I voted NDP the last election. I like Rachel Notley. I’ve also voted Conservative, Liberal, Reform Party, and Wild Rose Alliance in my lifetime. 

As I get older, I am learning one thing...I don’t  trust people who are resistant to change. They are generally selfish people who want to keep others down so they can succeed.