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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    And, here is a well written article detailing some of the reasons Dabo is being a donkey.
    https://theathletic.com/2217562/2020/11/23/clemson-florida-state-game-controversy-postponement?source=user-shared-article

    The whole problem was waiting until 2 1/2 hours before the game the cancel. I believe they were getting ready to head to the stadium when they got the news. Clemson offered to retest everyone and wait around a few extra days. Call it the night before, fine. Just seems odd to wait until 2 hours before game time to decide it isn’t safe to play, when Clemson followed all guidelines. 
    That all may be true,  but it doesn't mean the Noles were scared to play them and this was just an excuse. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    And, here is a well written article detailing some of the reasons Dabo is being a donkey.
    https://theathletic.com/2217562/2020/11/23/clemson-florida-state-game-controversy-postponement?source=user-shared-article

    The whole problem was waiting until 2 1/2 hours before the game the cancel. I believe they were getting ready to head to the stadium when they got the news. Clemson offered to retest everyone and wait around a few extra days. Call it the night before, fine. Just seems odd to wait until 2 hours before game time to decide it isn’t safe to play, when Clemson followed all guidelines. 
    That all may be true,  but it doesn't mean the Noles were scared to play them and this was just an excuse. 
    Yeah, I don’t think it was out of fear of playing them. But it’s just rude and inconsiderate. 
    If you have dinner plans with a friend and you got a babysitter, dressed up and are on the way to meet them and you get a text saying their car broke down yesterday and are stuck at home. Wouldn’t you be like way to wait until the last second to tell me? And then you say well I’m already left my house and paid for a sitter, I’ll pick you up. And they say no thanks. Wouldn’t you be kinda pissed?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    And, here is a well written article detailing some of the reasons Dabo is being a donkey.
    https://theathletic.com/2217562/2020/11/23/clemson-florida-state-game-controversy-postponement?source=user-shared-article

    The whole problem was waiting until 2 1/2 hours before the game the cancel. I believe they were getting ready to head to the stadium when they got the news. Clemson offered to retest everyone and wait around a few extra days. Call it the night before, fine. Just seems odd to wait until 2 hours before game time to decide it isn’t safe to play, when Clemson followed all guidelines. 
    That all may be true,  but it doesn't mean the Noles were scared to play them and this was just an excuse. 
    Yeah, I don’t think it was out of fear of playing them. But it’s just rude and inconsiderate. 
    If you have dinner plans with a friend and you got a babysitter, dressed up and are on the way to meet them and you get a text saying their car broke down yesterday and are stuck at home. Wouldn’t you be like way to wait until the last second to tell me? And then you say well I’m already left my house and paid for a sitter, I’ll pick you up. And they say no thanks. Wouldn’t you be kinda pissed?
    I guess, sure.  But I wouldn't declare that I think their car didn't actually break down, rather they went on a meth binge.  
    But didn't FSU request to reschedule, ACC said no and Clemson didn't want to reschedule?  From the State..

    Clemson coach Dabo Swinney gets his wish with Tuesday’s announcement. Swinney made it clear he did not want to make a return trip to Tallahassee this year. Clemson’s game at FSU scheduled for Nov. 21 was postponed after a Tigers offensive lineman tested positive for COVID-19 on the Friday ahead of the game.

    Swinney, the following Sunday, said: “If they want to play Clemson, in my opinion, they need to come to Clemson or they need to pay for all expenses. Other than that, there’s no reason for us to play them. We were there, we were ready and we met the standard” to play.

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    And, here is a well written article detailing some of the reasons Dabo is being a donkey.
    https://theathletic.com/2217562/2020/11/23/clemson-florida-state-game-controversy-postponement?source=user-shared-article

    The whole problem was waiting until 2 1/2 hours before the game the cancel. I believe they were getting ready to head to the stadium when they got the news. Clemson offered to retest everyone and wait around a few extra days. Call it the night before, fine. Just seems odd to wait until 2 hours before game time to decide it isn’t safe to play, when Clemson followed all guidelines. 
    That all may be true,  but it doesn't mean the Noles were scared to play them and this was just an excuse. 
    Yeah, I don’t think it was out of fear of playing them. But it’s just rude and inconsiderate. 
    If you have dinner plans with a friend and you got a babysitter, dressed up and are on the way to meet them and you get a text saying their car broke down yesterday and are stuck at home. Wouldn’t you be like way to wait until the last second to tell me? And then you say well I’m already left my house and paid for a sitter, I’ll pick you up. And they say no thanks. Wouldn’t you be kinda pissed?
    I guess, sure.  But I wouldn't declare that I think their car didn't actually break down, rather they went on a meth binge.  
    But didn't FSU request to reschedule, ACC said no and Clemson didn't want to reschedule?  From the State..

    Clemson coach Dabo Swinney gets his wish with Tuesday’s announcement. Swinney made it clear he did not want to make a return trip to Tallahassee this year. Clemson’s game at FSU scheduled for Nov. 21 was postponed after a Tigers offensive lineman tested positive for COVID-19 on the Friday ahead of the game.

    Swinney, the following Sunday, said: “If they want to play Clemson, in my opinion, they need to come to Clemson or they need to pay for all expenses. Other than that, there’s no reason for us to play them. We were there, we were ready and we met the standard” to play.

    You're right about FSU and the ACC. But Clemson was willing to reschedule. They just said either FSU covers the travel expense for the second trip or comes to Clemson. Seems fair, since they already spent 300k traveling for a game FSU canceled 2 hours before game time. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    Dabo and Herbie can roll around in the mud, together. 
    Their fanboys will remain their fanboys.  These opinions don't make them awful people, just red-ass dummies when it comes to their football teams.
    Hopefully none of these kids become "Long Haulers" and carry the damage from the disease with them as they move on.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Since you don't know, I can show you a picture of some famous ones:


    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,342
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    Totally agree here....only I was too dumb, poor and not Catholic enough to attend the school for which I cheer.

    Disagreeing with something like this is not about people wanting to see Clemson dethroned. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    edited December 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,342
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Oh, I think he is a great coach and has it figured out.
    He could go somewhere else and, provided they are an actual football school of some financial support, win - pretty quickly.
    Surprised to see someone think that you have to be a good guy to be succesful in sports.  Pretty far from the truth. 
    I don't say he is a bad guy -- not in the true sense of bad.  I don't think he in mean to old people or handicapped.  I don't think he cheats on his family...stuff like that.  I am sure he is involved with many charitable causes.  He is just easily riled, says dumb stuff when he gets riled, and is one of these guys who takes being competitive to a whole new level.  (In what can sometimes be too much....exactly the way he acted about FSU...and then sticking to his stance, even though it is obviously hyperbole.)

    A red ass.

    Nick Saban is also a dickhead. Look at how great a coach he is. 

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.

    Great -- another perfect example.  Total dickhead.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    There may even be a case to be made that most of the elite NCAA Football coaches are/were dickheads.

    Pete Carrol was not - but he also let people sink his program because he did not rule with an iron fist, like Dickbo or Nicky.


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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.
    Maybe. But it probably helps when you're in highly recognized and winning teams. But Dabo inherited a mediocre team that was on no ones radar. They were losing to Wake Forest back then. I'm sure they'd stick around now even if he wasn't easy to be around, but 10 years ago maybe not.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    F Me In The Brain said:
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.

    Great -- another perfect example.  Total dickhead.
    Y'all just shitting all over Buckeyes this week.  Are we bringing up Maurice Clarett next?
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.

    Great -- another perfect example.  Total dickhead.
    Y'all just shitting all over Buckeyes this week.  Are we bringing up Maurice Clarett next?

    Hey, if the shoes fit...wear 'em.  :lol: 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    mace1229 said:
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.
    Maybe. But it probably helps when you're in highly recognized and winning teams. But Dabo inherited a mediocre team that was on no ones radar. They were losing to Wake Forest back then. I'm sure they'd stick around now even if he wasn't easy to be around, but 10 years ago maybe not.

    I know you copped to not being a long term football fan -- Urban made his bones at two places with zero history....Bowling Green and then Utah. 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.
    Maybe. But it probably helps when you're in highly recognized and winning teams. But Dabo inherited a mediocre team that was on no ones radar. They were losing to Wake Forest back then. I'm sure they'd stick around now even if he wasn't easy to be around, but 10 years ago maybe not.

    I know you copped to not being a long term football fan -- Urban made his bones at two places with zero history....Bowling Green and then Utah. 
    Urban is a great coach.  I hated him at Florida,  but he is the real deal.  That Utah team in the sugar bowl,  I believe,  played unbelievable. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,342
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    darwinstheory said:
    mace1229 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mace1229 said:
    Everyone seems to hate a team when they win more than once in a decade. I never watched a regular season college game in my life until about 10 years ago when I married into it. Took a couple years to be really a fan. But my wife's family was born and raised in Clemson, her dad taught there for 28 years, most of her family still lives in Clemson. So their blood is pretty orange. 5 or 6 years ago when they won the first time against Alabama and I was wearing my Clemson sweatshirt I couldn't go to the store without 10 people cheering for them. Now they are the old guys people want to see dethroned. 
    Still don't know what a red-ass dummy is though. 

    Also, I attended a college football blue-blood.  One of the greatest histories of all...and also lived through an extended run of great play where everyone hated on them.
    I don't dislike Clemson, at all.  They are not a traditional power but they sure as hell are a modern one.
    Their coach is a dickhead.  Great coach.  Great recruiter.
    I think he's just a good, not great, coach. But where he excels is recruiting and building his community. The kids want to play for him and want to stay there. The people under him want to stay there. Venables leaves and takes an offer in the NFL or as a head coach somewhere else, they may not be a championship team. Still great, but probably not #1. Its tough to keep all those people around and be a dickhead.  Either he's masters the skill of doing both, or he's actually a good guy. 
    Urban Meyer never had a problem doing this.

    Great -- another perfect example.  Total dickhead.
    Y'all just shitting all over Buckeyes this week.  Are we bringing up Maurice Clarett next?
    Not at all brother. Well, not directly anyhow. Urban Meyer sans a tenure at Ohio State is still a dickhead. 

    The other thing I brought up for discussion was: should Ohio State be left out of the playoffs IF they don't play in the B1G Championship game? Seems like an appropriate question/topic to discuss right now. Your opinion was that they should still be allowed in, and nobody else gave a yes/no answer (I don’t think).
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory

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