F Me In The Brain said:

marjen said:

So every year since my wife and I got married we have hosted thanksgiving. It’s usually 12 people. Us and our kids, both our parents, my wife’s sister and my sister and her family. It’s the only time of year all of us get together at the same time. 

Well finally my wife and I decided last week that we just cant do it this year. We could not see how we could keep 5 different households separated enough over the course of 5-6 hours inside with people eating and drinking and everything else. It sucks but its the responsible thing to do.

What sucks is of course, as I knew its causing issues on my side of the family. My mother is pissed because she wants to have thanksgiving with the family and thinks I am being ridiculous. Now this is a family where everyone voted democrat and believes in science, and its still causing a family rift. And on top of it all my mother works at a hospital!! She should know better. She is 70 and feels she does everything right because she wears a mask when she “needs” to. But her and my father still go out to dinner in restaurants with friends and refuse to just stay home. 

So now she is going to go to my sisters instead. I grilled my sister on the whole thing and he response was well its hard, I am sure it will be fine, blah blah. They have a son who goes to school in person 3 days a week, she (cancer survivor, overweight, generally unhealthy) is still working in an office and her husbands (high blood pressure, overweight) job requires him to interact with random people all day 5 days a week who may or may not ear masks. I mean come on. Combine that with my mother who works in a hospital and my dad who survived cancer a few years ago and what a potential mess. They think they are being good and yet are making sooo many mistakes. I am so frustrated and disappointed in everyone. They claim I am the most cautious person I know yet all I do is follow the guidelines lol.

I am really just hoping at this point they all get lucky over this long winter as at the moment I feel the chances for all of them making it till next Thanksgiving are fairly low :(

Sorry to read this.

It does suck.

You are doing what I think is the right thing, but many will disagree. 

First time for me, and I imagine for many, to have a Thanksgiving without some family.  (Outside of my wife and son - and we will have a great day together.)  Before we married we would go and work at a shelter during the day and drive to San Diego to be with my brother-in-law's family.

My wife's favorite uncle died last night and all we could do the last few months was write letters as he withered away.  So sad for his kids and wife and we can't go and hug them.

My brother-in-law's wife's mother (who used to host us during Thanksgiving) had a blood vessel burst in her head last week and she has been in the ICU since.  Her husband cannot see her until they move her out of the ICU - which, thankfully, they think they will be able to do soon.  She will be a shell of the person she was, but at least alive. 

This is why we need to be thankful that we can have a nice meal with the three of us. 

I am sorry for you that your family is upset with you -- but think you are doing what is best.

brianlux said:

I am hugely unhappy with our California governor Newsom who, at the outset, was doing a very good job of leading us to be safe around the coronavirus but has now shown himself to by a hypocrite.  I had questioned Hedonist's earlier diatribe against Newsom, but she had it right.  It's really discouraging to see even some Democrat leaders dropping the ball on COVID like this.  Very disappointing.  This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious of politicians in general.  Not that there aren't good ones, but they are hard to find these days.

https://www.sacbee.com/article247249454.html

Gavin Newsom’s executive powers under scrutiny as he copes with French Laundry mistake

marjen said:

F Me In The Brain said:

marjen said:

So every year since my wife and I got married we have hosted thanksgiving. It’s usually 12 people. Us and our kids, both our parents, my wife’s sister and my sister and her family. It’s the only time of year all of us get together at the same time. 

Well finally my wife and I decided last week that we just cant do it this year. We could not see how we could keep 5 different households separated enough over the course of 5-6 hours inside with people eating and drinking and everything else. It sucks but its the responsible thing to do.

What sucks is of course, as I knew its causing issues on my side of the family. My mother is pissed because she wants to have thanksgiving with the family and thinks I am being ridiculous. Now this is a family where everyone voted democrat and believes in science, and its still causing a family rift. And on top of it all my mother works at a hospital!! She should know better. She is 70 and feels she does everything right because she wears a mask when she “needs” to. But her and my father still go out to dinner in restaurants with friends and refuse to just stay home. 

So now she is going to go to my sisters instead. I grilled my sister on the whole thing and he response was well its hard, I am sure it will be fine, blah blah. They have a son who goes to school in person 3 days a week, she (cancer survivor, overweight, generally unhealthy) is still working in an office and her husbands (high blood pressure, overweight) job requires him to interact with random people all day 5 days a week who may or may not ear masks. I mean come on. Combine that with my mother who works in a hospital and my dad who survived cancer a few years ago and what a potential mess. They think they are being good and yet are making sooo many mistakes. I am so frustrated and disappointed in everyone. They claim I am the most cautious person I know yet all I do is follow the guidelines lol.

I am really just hoping at this point they all get lucky over this long winter as at the moment I feel the chances for all of them making it till next Thanksgiving are fairly low :(

Sorry to read this.

It does suck.

You are doing what I think is the right thing, but many will disagree. 

First time for me, and I imagine for many, to have a Thanksgiving without some family.  (Outside of my wife and son - and we will have a great day together.)  Before we married we would go and work at a shelter during the day and drive to San Diego to be with my brother-in-law's family.

My wife's favorite uncle died last night and all we could do the last few months was write letters as he withered away.  So sad for his kids and wife and we can't go and hug them.

My brother-in-law's wife's mother (who used to host us during Thanksgiving) had a blood vessel burst in her head last week and she has been in the ICU since.  Her husband cannot see her until they move her out of the ICU - which, thankfully, they think they will be able to do soon.  She will be a shell of the person she was, but at least alive. 

This is why we need to be thankful that we can have a nice meal with the three of us. 

I am sorry for you that your family is upset with you -- but think you are doing what is best.

Sorry for your losses. Hope all your stay well. We are all trying to do the best we can through this mess. 

brianlux said:

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

I am hugely unhappy with our California governor Newsom who, at the outset, was doing a very good job of leading us to be safe around the coronavirus but has now shown himself to by a hypocrite.  I had questioned Hedonist's earlier diatribe against Newsom, but she had it right.  It's really discouraging to see even some Democrat leaders dropping the ball on COVID like this.  Very disappointing.  This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious of politicians in general.  Not that there aren't good ones, but they are hard to find these days.

https://www.sacbee.com/article247249454.html

Gavin Newsom’s executive powers under scrutiny as he copes with French Laundry mistake

Yea it’s sad. Do as I say, not as I do. My mayor has been urging people to not get together for holidays as early as October. A few weeks ago he was out of town visiting family members. 

Yikes!  Nothing worse than hypocritical so-called "leaders". 

brianlux said:

I am hugely unhappy with our California governor Newsom who, at the outset, was doing a very good job of leading us to be safe around the coronavirus but has now shown himself to by a hypocrite.  I had questioned Hedonist's earlier diatribe against Newsom, but she had it right.  It's really discouraging to see even some Democrat leaders dropping the ball on COVID like this.  Very disappointing.  This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious of politicians in general.  Not that there aren't good ones, but they are hard to find these days.

https://www.sacbee.com/article247249454.html

Gavin Newsom’s executive powers under scrutiny as he copes with French Laundry mistake

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

I am hugely unhappy with our California governor Newsom who, at the outset, was doing a very good job of leading us to be safe around the coronavirus but has now shown himself to by a hypocrite.  I had questioned Hedonist's earlier diatribe against Newsom, but she had it right.  It's really discouraging to see even some Democrat leaders dropping the ball on COVID like this.  Very disappointing.  This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious of politicians in general.  Not that there aren't good ones, but they are hard to find these days.

https://www.sacbee.com/article247249454.html

Gavin Newsom’s executive powers under scrutiny as he copes with French Laundry mistake

French Laundry?
I wonder who picked up that tab.
At a minimum $6K

hedonist said:

brianlux said:

I am hugely unhappy with our California governor Newsom who, at the outset, was doing a very good job of leading us to be safe around the coronavirus but has now shown himself to by a hypocrite.  I had questioned Hedonist's earlier diatribe against Newsom, but she had it right.  It's really discouraging to see even some Democrat leaders dropping the ball on COVID like this.  Very disappointing.  This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious of politicians in general.  Not that there aren't good ones, but they are hard to find these days.

https://www.sacbee.com/article247249454.html

Gavin Newsom’s executive powers under scrutiny as he copes with French Laundry mistake

I tend to not talk out of my ass 🙄

It’s about imagery. Even his “apology” was disingenuous. He says he should’ve gotten in his car and driven back home. I call bullshit. The governor of California drove all the way there, just him and his wife? No security to accompany him, let alone to vet the place and number of attendees? 

Yeah, I stand by my earlier assessment. He’s a useless POS liar. 

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

new crazy restrictions in manitoba effective tomorrow. no one allowed in your house if they don't live there, with some exceptions (health care, child care, etc). stores only allowed to sell essentials. all other items are to be removed from shelves by saturday open. no outdoor gatherings of more than 5. ticket of $298 for not wearing a mask inside. 

That's going to put a pinch on places (if you have them) like Dollar Tree, Big Lots and Walmart that sell 90% crap in the first place.  I wonder how well they will be able to enforce all those restriction?