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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    These fuckers have infiltrated my fucking farmers market.  There is a newish group I’ve never heard of called Operation Underground Railroad that is “against human trafficking” like who isn’t.  They are dressed up in 501c3s and present a more legitimate face than Q bullshit but at root there isn’t a distinction and they are pulling well meaning people in.   Fuck why are Americans so fucking stupid. https://newrepublic.com/article/158974/qanon-operation-underground-railroad-sex-trafficking
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  • If racist QAnon adherents getting elected to Congress along with Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat gaining support doesn’t concern you, then there is no hope. Shithole country.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    If racist QAnon adherents getting elected to Congress along with Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat gaining support doesn’t concern you, then there is no hope. Shithole country.
    Ignorant people are okay with this as long as he continues to claim to love guns, that he's a forced birther, and their 401Ks keep going up.

    And that he continues to own libs.
  • If racist QAnon adherents getting elected to Congress along with Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat gaining support doesn’t concern you, then there is no hope. Shithole country.
    Ignorant people are okay with this as long as he continues to claim to love guns, that he's a forced birther, and their 401Ks keep going up.

    And that he continues to own libs.


    He hates the right people, it's really that simple.

    They don't care if they suffer, as long as the people they hate suffer more.

  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,382
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Nazi thing keeps getting brought up because he clearly wants to run things without any checks and balances (no surprise).  And the party and half the population seem to want to let him.  The attacks on the evil "MSM" (bought into by half the people), chants by these people to lock up just about every political adversary, and the constant vilification of all who dare even question him?  Hell, even this military parade. Those are early steps in the march toward authoritarianism.  The parallels to Hitler are there.  That doesn't mean it's going to look exactly like Nazi Germany.  But even from his detractors, I see a frightening lack of critical thinking; essentially that "there's nothing to worry about until we've gassed a few million people.  How can we compare ourselves to a regime that did that?"  How?  By looking at the early signs.  By the time we get to full-fledged authoritarianism, it'll be to late.  Those who don't learn from history...

    We already have fully 40% of the population willing to go wherever Trump wants to take them.  This is a very dangerous time.
    40%?!?  I would think it's maybe 15%.  40 is almost half the country.  No way there is that many people that are on his side.  His approval ratings show roughly 40%, is that how you come to that number?
    Yes.  Nothing he has done has lowered that number.  Nothing.  That 40% does not think he can do any wrong.  That might be a critical mass (particularly in the only country with a voting system that inflates the votes of those in that 40%) to move in the direction of authoritarianism.  

    We were complacent that Trump would lose.  He won.  We were complacent that he'd get impeached/removed/resign. Looks unlikley.  And the left that I see?  Complacent that he'll lose.  You think 15% think he's god and will follow him to authoritarianism?  Complacent that "it can't happen here."  I think that brand of complacency is dangerous.  It's starting to happen here and the party in power is OK with it.
      I'm not crazy like Halifax 

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Wobbie said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Nazi thing keeps getting brought up because he clearly wants to run things without any checks and balances (no surprise).  And the party and half the population seem to want to let him.  The attacks on the evil "MSM" (bought into by half the people), chants by these people to lock up just about every political adversary, and the constant vilification of all who dare even question him?  Hell, even this military parade. Those are early steps in the march toward authoritarianism.  The parallels to Hitler are there.  That doesn't mean it's going to look exactly like Nazi Germany.  But even from his detractors, I see a frightening lack of critical thinking; essentially that "there's nothing to worry about until we've gassed a few million people.  How can we compare ourselves to a regime that did that?"  How?  By looking at the early signs.  By the time we get to full-fledged authoritarianism, it'll be to late.  Those who don't learn from history...

    We already have fully 40% of the population willing to go wherever Trump wants to take them.  This is a very dangerous time.
    40%?!?  I would think it's maybe 15%.  40 is almost half the country.  No way there is that many people that are on his side.  His approval ratings show roughly 40%, is that how you come to that number?
    Yes.  Nothing he has done has lowered that number.  Nothing.  That 40% does not think he can do any wrong.  That might be a critical mass (particularly in the only country with a voting system that inflates the votes of those in that 40%) to move in the direction of authoritarianism.  

    We were complacent that Trump would lose.  He won.  We were complacent that he'd get impeached/removed/resign. Looks unlikley.  And the left that I see?  Complacent that he'll lose.  You think 15% think he's god and will follow him to authoritarianism?  Complacent that "it can't happen here."  I think that brand of complacency is dangerous.  It's starting to happen here and the party in power is OK with it.
      I'm not crazy like Halifax 

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    HF2 has proven to be one of thee best informed posters here do crazy def doesn’t apply! Passionate yes 
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  • Last time I did any kind of dive into this mess of a conspiracy, people were claiming that indeed celebrities like Keanu Reeves and Oprah had already been rounded up and that the people walking around impersonating them were clones. This is some real batsh*t crazy stuff...
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,814
    Disappointed JFK, Jr. backed out.
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  • jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,399
    OnWis97 said:
    Disappointed JFK, Jr. backed out.
    Gutted.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    edited November 2020
    I heard Q walked into Comet Pizza, went into the basement and walked 27 miles to a Virginia Wal Mart, where he was able to walk from that Wal Mart to all the other Wal Marts, eventually arriving in Little Rock, Arkansas, where he now works as a Wal Mart greeter.

    Someone, please, explain to me how "we're" supposed to find common ground with these folks and save 'Murica? Who here would knowingly hire a QAnon supporter/adherent? Two qualified candidates but one spouts QAnon theories during the job interview and has a WWGOWGA bumper sticker on their car as they drive out of the parking lot. Be honest.

    Anyone want to fathom why the Q's settled in the Philippines? Think "projection."

    ‘My faith is shaken’: The QAnon conspiracy theory faces a post-Trump identity crisis

    President Trump’s defeat and the week-long disappearance of its anonymous prophet have forced supporters of the baseless movement to rethink their beliefs: ‘Have we all been conned?’


    President Trump’s election loss and the week-long silence of “Q,” the QAnon movement’s mysterious prophet, have wrenched some believers into a crisis of faith, with factions voicing unease about their future or rallying others to stay calm and “trust the plan.”

    The uncertainty has been compounded by the abrupt public resignation, also last Tuesday, of Ron Watkins, the administrator of Q’s online sanctuary on the message board 8kun.

    Q has gone quiet before. But the abrupt lack of posts since last Tuesday — Election Day, which the anonymous figure had touted for months as a key moment of reckoning — has sparked speculation and alarm among the movement’s most ardent followers.

    Some QAnon proponents have begun to publicly grapple with reality and question whether the conspiracy theory is a hoax. “Have we all been conned?” one user wrote Saturday on 8kun.

    Wrote another: “HOW CAN I SPEAK TO Q???? MY FAITH IS SHAKEN. I FOLLOWED THE PLAN. TRUMP LOST!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT NOW?????? WHERE IS THE PLAN???”

    Trump’s defeat threatens to undermine the tale that Q, a supposed top-secret government operative, has woven over years: that Trump and his allies would soon vanquish a cabal of “deep state” child abusers and Satan-worshiping Democrats, exiling some to the U.S. detention facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

    QAnon believers treat Q’s thousands of cryptic posts as scripture, and many stretch to connect them to real-world events, often in nonsensical ways. Some prominent Q believers said Trump’s back-to-back golf outings over the weekend were proof that the president was in control and that all was going according to plan.

    Others connected Rudolph W. Giuliani’s bizarre Saturday news conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping, on an industrial block in Philadelphia between a crematorium and an adult-video store, with two Q posts in the past year in which he used the words “landscape.”

    One QAnon account, known as Praying Medic, told its more than 400,000 Twitter followers that many supporters “had to be talked off the ledge” in the past week but that Trump’s strategy remained in motion. Praying Medic tweeted: “He’s going to stick the knife in and twist it. He has no plans to leave office. Ever.”

    Travis View, a researcher and co-host of the podcast “QAnon Anonymous,” said he expects that whoever is behind the Q “drops” — as Q’s messages are known — is just waiting to see how things shake out. Q has disappeared for weeks at a time before, shaking some loyalists, including during a three-month absence last year following a public revolt over the message board’s ties to real-world terrorist attacks.

    In the meantime, QAnon’s devoted fan base has been left to struggle with the meaning of Trump’s election loss — which many argue was actually a win.

    “The majority reaction from QAnon followers has been outright denial,” View said. Many expect Trump will seal his reelection through his team’s so-far-unsuccessful legal skirmishes, and “if that doesn’t happen and Joe Biden is inaugurated on Jan. 20, the cognitive dissonance will be absolutely as big as it’s ever been for QAnon followers.”

    Many of Q’s posts read like conspiratorial gibberish. They generally outline how shadowy forces have gained power over the American republic and how Trump is cleverly working behind the scenes to engineer their destruction.

    Q’s last “drop” featured an Abraham Lincoln quote about “a new birth of freedom,” an image of a big American flag and a YouTube link to the theme song of “The Last of the Mohicans,” the 1992 movie about the French and Indian War.

    That YouTube page has itself become a town center for Q believers, with more than 35 million views and 27,000 comments. One of the most popularly voted comments reads: “It’s not just about trump, it’s good versus evil , light versus darkness! Victory of the light!!”

    Q’s posts have no set schedule, and the network of pro-QAnon websites has sought to reassure anxious followers about Q’s absence since Election Day. “Q has been dark for 7 days,” the website Q Alerts states. “At times Q strategically goes dark for days, weeks or in some cases months. Be sure you have some type of Q Alerts in place so you are notified when Q drops again.”

    “Do not worry. Do not be afraid. THERE IS A PLAN. IT IS A GOOD PLAN,” the QAnon supporter Major Patriot tweeted last week.

    As QAnon’s influence and popularity grew since the first Q drop in 2017, a robust network of sites has emerged to assemble and aggregate Q’s posts for a broader global fan base. But Q’s posts continue to be released only on 8kun, the rickety message board once known as 8chan that revels in hateful bigotry and violent memes.

    The site saw a major change of its own on Election Day, a few hours after Q’s last post, when Watkins tweeted that he was resigning following a “self-imposed civic duty protecting the final fortifications of online free speech.”

    Ron Watkins and his father, 8kun owner Jim Watkins, are among the only people on the Web who can verify the authenticity of Q’s messages using a unique identifying code attached to each drop. The strange arrangement has fueled theories that the two are behind the Q persona, which both men have denied.

    Ron Watkins said in an interview Monday with The Washington Post that he resigned to focus on “areas of my life that need some TLC,” including his health and marriage, and that he intended to devote more time to his new hobby of furniture-making, “building things with my hands and mastering a traditional craft.”

    He said that his father — through the holding company Is It Wet Yet, which Jim Watkins founded in Mississippi last year — would take over the site, and that he had “no thoughts or insight into why Q” hadn’t posted in a week.

    Asked for comment, Jim Watkins said only, “I never have time for you.”

    It’s hard, however, to know the truth about Q’s next steps. Fredrick Brennan, who founded 8chan and worked with Jim and Ron Watkins until 2018, said that both men “lie constantly” and that “it’s so hard to even give them the minimum amount of trust.” (Jim Watkins earlier this year accused Brennan of “cyber libel” in the Philippines, where both men ran the company, after Brennan tweeted that he seemed to be “going senile.”)

    The last week, Brennan said, has shown how much the movement has begun to grow beyond Q itself, as a core group of prominent pro-Trump influencers began pushing viewpoints beyond the anonymous figure’s central teachings. Many of those influencers have also sought to profit off their growing audiences through paid subscriptions and online sales.

    Over the past week, Brennan said, “the major influencers have set themselves in narratives without Q saying anything.”

    The election did provide QAnon believers some cause for optimism, including winning representation in Congress. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a booster of QAnon talking points, won her unopposed House race in Georgia. Lauren Boebert, who earlier this year said she hoped Q was real but who has since sought to distance herself from the conspiracy theory, also won a competitive race in Colorado.

    They have also gained subtle nods of support from Trump’s political following. On a town hall stage last month, Trump said he knew nothing about QAnon but echoed one of its audience’s central talking points: that “they are very much against pedophilia.”

    Trump’s senior adviser Stephen Miller further bolstered the conspiracy theory last month by baselessly claiming that Biden would incentivize “child trafficking on an epic global scale.” Trump’s former adviser Stephen K. Bannon also said on a podcast last month that QAnon “appears directionally to be correct.”

    Rita Katz, the executive director of SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors online extremism, said she expects the QAnon following will continue to grow online, regardless of who created or operated its presence online.

    “It’s a dangerous network. It’s a dangerous movement that truly believes that Biden and other Democrats are killing kids,” Katz said. “And now, with Biden’s projected victory, the QAnon movement believes with the same zealous certainty that the whole thing is a sham. And that’s a major problem, because … these aren’t a bunch of harmless keyboard warriors — they’re adherents of a movement that has resulted in real-life violence.”

    The FBI said last year that QAnon and other “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists” represented a major terrorism threat. Its supporters have been linked to kidnapping plots and violent threats, including in 2018, when an armed man in Arizona barricaded a bridge at the Hoover Dam with an armored truck.

    QAnon followers have more recently pushed one another to keep the faith. On the far-right message board Gab, one user reposted a Q drop from June: “These are the times that try men’s souls.”

    For some core QAnon believers, who call themselves “digital soldiers,” the election seemed to fuel new calls for violent action in the real world.

    “WAR,” one QAnon account wrote shortly after the race had been called on Saturday, in a tweet that has been retweeted more than 1,000 times. “Patriots will handle from here,” it read, alongside a “storm” emoji.

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Idiots
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    The term "bat shit crazy" comes to mind.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,411
    Bat shit is distant speck in the rear view.

    The FB/Twitter exodus to Parler and MeWe is going to make this worse before it gets better. 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    DewieCox said:
    Bat shit is distant speck in the rear view.

    The FB/Twitter exodus to Parler and MeWe is going to make this worse before it gets better. 
    I am welcoming the exodus of people from Facebook to Parler. Maybe then my feed won't be clogged with family members and friends constantly sharing whack a doo conspiracy theories and links to some obscure website that purports to have the truth about election fraud. I have snoozed a bunch of people in the last few months, but it doesn't seem to be letting up. 
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,411
    Same here, on one hand. On the other I like keeping tabs on people that are deluded enough to further this insane bullshit. 
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    DewieCox said:
    Same here, on one hand. On the other I like keeping tabs on people that are deluded enough to further this insane bullshit. 
    That's what I feel. On one hand it has been refreshing not seeing so much BS on my feed since much of it has moved to Parler. On the other hand, it is helpful to know what kind of BS they are spewing, and on Parler their BS will go unchecked and likely foment even more idiocy.
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  • Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
    My Irish aunt used to said the same thing.
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
    My Irish aunt used to said the same thing.
    Small world. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
    My Irish aunt used to said the same thing.
    Small world. 
    My neighbor says that all the time
    chinese-happy.jpg
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
    My Irish aunt used to said the same thing.
    Small world. 
    My neighbor says that all the time
    It must be true then.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Ya think? But I've got a bridge and some buildable waterfront land I'll sell you.

    While some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt as Trump's term ended, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events.
    some will snap out of it; others will dive deeper into madness. 
    Like my Portuguese Papa used to say when encountering someone like that “ louco na cabeça”
    My Irish aunt used to said the same thing.
    Small world. 
    My neighbor says that all the time
    It must be true then.
    My neighbor is a god foresaken liar though. 
    chinese-happy.jpg
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,450
    Well, in that case maybe it is a large world. I might have been mistaken.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,422
    excellent and informative podcast


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  • mickeyrat said:
    excellent and informative podcast


    Internal server error.  Is Q listening?!?

    On another note Greene denounced Q.  How about them apples?  You get stripped of your title then you realize the error of your ways...
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