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            Bidenwhere's gritty?
gritty did this shit. and i hope trump sees gritty's face in his nightmares."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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            Biden
I loved this show. It was short-lived but really funny. I liked how they'd announce him at the beginning as "The 45th and final President of the United States"NSL said:
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There’s definitely going to be legal challenges and he’ll probably never concede. But that doesn’t matter, one isn’t allowed to stay president and in the White House simply because you don’t want to leave. He’ll be dragged out if necessary, but he’ll leave on his own to save himself that embarrassment, while claiming it was stolen and promising more lawsuits.MayDay10 said:
There is word that he will not concede the election. There is going to be all sorts of legal challenges and bullshit posturing. Possibly even violence in the streets.dimitrispearljam said:is there gonna be a live streaming while trump packing from white house?
Ultimately, there is nothing he can do. It is going to be more that 1 state's-worth margin. He would have to get a ton of votes thrown out in several states (and there has been no claims that seem valid or egregious, nor any evidence)
You don’t think the violence would be as bad or worse if Trump won? I would imagine it would at least match the protests we saw over the summer.0 - 
            
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There’s definitely going to be legal challenges and he’ll probably never concede. But that doesn’t matter, one isn’t allowed to stay president and in the White House simply because you don’t want to leave. He’ll be dragged out if necessary, but he’ll leave on his own to save himself that embarrassment, while claiming it was stolen and promising more lawsuits.MayDay10 said:
There is word that he will not concede the election. There is going to be all sorts of legal challenges and bullshit posturing. Possibly even violence in the streets.dimitrispearljam said:is there gonna be a live streaming while trump packing from white house?
Ultimately, there is nothing he can do. It is going to be more that 1 state's-worth margin. He would have to get a ton of votes thrown out in several states (and there has been no claims that seem valid or egregious, nor any evidence)
You don’t think the violence would be as bad or worse if Trump won? I would imagine it would at least match the protests we saw over the summer.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I dont think the violence would be as bad (or at all) post-election, no. There would be protests, but I wonder if cletuses cosplaying as army men would escalate things. Now if he ran it through courts and the supreme court handed it to him, or had the State's electoral rep switch against the votes to Republican.... then yes. It would be a powder keg we would never recover frommace1229 said:
There’s definitely going to be legal challenges and he’ll probably never concede. But that doesn’t matter, one isn’t allowed to stay president and in the White House simply because you don’t want to leave. He’ll be dragged out if necessary, but he’ll leave on his own to save himself that embarrassment, while claiming it was stolen and promising more lawsuits.MayDay10 said:
There is word that he will not concede the election. There is going to be all sorts of legal challenges and bullshit posturing. Possibly even violence in the streets.dimitrispearljam said:is there gonna be a live streaming while trump packing from white house?
Ultimately, there is nothing he can do. It is going to be more that 1 state's-worth margin. He would have to get a ton of votes thrown out in several states (and there has been no claims that seem valid or egregious, nor any evidence)
You don’t think the violence would be as bad or worse if Trump won? I would imagine it would at least match the protests we saw over the summer.
If he won straight-up, I do think there would be later violence based on (pick your issue), because Trump is an awful leader and constantly throws new logs and gasoline onto the fire.Post edited by MayDay10 on0 - 
            Bidenlooks like a biden win. the next two months are going to be a SHIT. SHOW.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            BidenCrazy to think he'll be taking the oath at 78 years old. I remember thinking Bush Sr. was ancient when he was president when I was a kid, but he was ten years younger than Biden is.
If he chooses not to run for re-election (pretty possible), I hope they have a primary and don't just decree that Harris is the 2024 nominee. I'd like Yang to have another shot at it. Not sure how it would work since no modern president has chosen not to run for a second term.
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            The PA votes FOX is peddling that should not count because their poor SC court did not want to touch the decision do not matter. Biden will win by enough (50K minimum 100K plus max) and all it is is a talking point that they can drag this on more to keep their bases hopes up. That is all this is. They will pivot when they have exhausted that point and find another and then another. It is over and unless there is real voting fraud (I do not think there is) its over.Post edited by PJNB on0
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            I'm sitting this one outmost funny part of this thread is the poll at first page,,i mean,,there are more votes im sitting this one out than trump..
i mean for me i couldnt vote any of those two cos i dont vote in usa so would be stupid to vote any of the two.in the poll .
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            Do squatter’s rights apply to the White House?0
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            BidenSo if the map stands as is, 25 states voted for Trump and 25 for Biden. It is crazy how divided this country is.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            I'm sitting this one out
The most fun thing is that there is one who voted Trump but with a Biden-avatardimitrispearljam said:most funny part of this thread is the poll at first page,,i mean,,there are more votes im sitting this one out than trump..
i mean for me i couldnt vote any of those two cos i dont vote in usa so would be stupid to vote any of the two.in the poll .
but i guess shows the majority of pj fans politics
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            Biden
i don't think it's stupid for non-americans to vote in the poll. no, we can't vote, but obviously this is a massively consequential election not just for americans, but for the planet. the US is unlike any other in that they often set global policy, not just american.dimitrispearljam said:most funny part of this thread is the poll at first page,,i mean,,there are more votes im sitting this one out than trump..
i mean for me i couldnt vote any of those two cos i dont vote in usa so would be stupid to vote any of the two.in the poll .
but i guess shows the majority of pj fans politicsYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 - 
            I'm sitting this one out
Which is something Europe should start shaving away. Pronto.HughFreakingDillon said:
i don't think it's stupid for non-americans to vote in the poll. no, we can't vote, but obviously this is a massively consequential election not just for americans, but for the planet. the US is unlike any other in that they often set global policy, not just american.dimitrispearljam said:most funny part of this thread is the poll at first page,,i mean,,there are more votes im sitting this one out than trump..
i mean for me i couldnt vote any of those two cos i dont vote in usa so would be stupid to vote any of the two.in the poll .
but i guess shows the majority of pj fans politics"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 - 
            BidenIs it more hilariously ironic that he's being "fired" by the electorate (since "you're fired" was his gameshow catchphrase), or that he's being "evicted" by the electorate (because he was a shitty landlord in the 80's)?
If he had half a brain, he'd save some face by just conceding (in a few days when all votes are counted), wishing Joe luck, and helping with the transition. What's the worse that happens if he does that? The hillbilly portion of his supporters (who Trump probably hates anyway) won't like him anymore?
Of course he'll do the complete opposite of this, fittingly, because that's who he is. And it'll look even more awful than the past five years have.
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