Anyone here tried this new thing called "jogging" ?
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GlowGirl said:NewfieintheUSA said:Sorry I've disappeared for a while. Went to an orthopedist today, apparently I fractured my pubis bone. Can't run for another month. I'm still refusing to go to the gym.
Hope everyone is doing well in hereI am sorry to hear that. I hope you are doing ok, and have a speedy recovery. I went to the gym for the first time last week since March. I went twice. I was nervous at first. You have to make an appointment to go and they were seriously limiting the number of people. When I went, I felt like I had plenty of room around me. Everyone of course was wearing masks, and there were wipes and hand sanitizer everywhere. Had I used the treadmills, I would have been the only person in all four rows. But, I can't deal with the thought of using the treadmill in a mask so I am sticking to outside running until I can't handle with the cold. So, I have only done weight training at the gym. I bought some dumbbells to use at home while the gym was closed so that part of my workout wasn't too affected. However, when I got on the machines - I had lost so much progress. For the the seated rows, and the lat pulldowns I had to use 15 pounds less weight than in March. So frustrating. I hope I get it back soon.Do you know what caused your fracture. It sounds painful?
Not really sure, I guess just running. I don't recall doing anything that would have injured it. It's not as painful as you would think, more uncomfortable than anything.0 -
GlowGirl said:F Me In The Brain said:Strides the same as steps?
My tracker counts steps per minute. This morning I reached 100 per minute at max
Speed was 9.8 mph and the fasted mile I did was 830.
That is a good speed for me, especially dragging this ankle around.
If I was meant to almost double that number of steps per minute I think I might die!
(Alternately, I would be very fast!)
“Most recreational runners will have a cadence between 150 to 170spm (strides per minute) topping out at 180spm. A cadence of less than 160spm is usually seen in runners who overstride. The good news is that as you improve your cadence, you will simultaneously be correcting your overstriding.The shorter your stride length, the quicker your stride rate, the faster and better you run. If you have a low cadence, you most likely have a long stride which makes for a choppy and more bouncy run. The more bounce and over striding in your gait, the more susceptible you are to injury. Shortening your stride length with increase your cadence, which will make you faster and less injury prone.As a bonus, when you shorten your stride you will also change the position of where your foot lands beneath you. The optimal placement of your foot is beneath your hips (not out in front of them) which is where your foot will automatically land if you take the necessary steps to increase your cadence and shorten your stride length. This is the point of your center of gravity and where the least amount of impact will occur. Your turnover will increase which will propel you forward and will waste less energy since you will now be moving forward and back not up and down.”
Perhaps I am overstriding, don't know. Will have to watch some stuff to see. If I am, that would be good to know since it sounds I can get faster/more efficient/safer if I shorten.
I feel like my strides are shorter since my ankle injury, already.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
F Me In The Brain said:GlowGirl said:F Me In The Brain said:Strides the same as steps?
My tracker counts steps per minute. This morning I reached 100 per minute at max
Speed was 9.8 mph and the fasted mile I did was 830.
That is a good speed for me, especially dragging this ankle around.
If I was meant to almost double that number of steps per minute I think I might die!
(Alternately, I would be very fast!)
“Most recreational runners will have a cadence between 150 to 170spm (strides per minute) topping out at 180spm. A cadence of less than 160spm is usually seen in runners who overstride. The good news is that as you improve your cadence, you will simultaneously be correcting your overstriding.The shorter your stride length, the quicker your stride rate, the faster and better you run. If you have a low cadence, you most likely have a long stride which makes for a choppy and more bouncy run. The more bounce and over striding in your gait, the more susceptible you are to injury. Shortening your stride length with increase your cadence, which will make you faster and less injury prone.As a bonus, when you shorten your stride you will also change the position of where your foot lands beneath you. The optimal placement of your foot is beneath your hips (not out in front of them) which is where your foot will automatically land if you take the necessary steps to increase your cadence and shorten your stride length. This is the point of your center of gravity and where the least amount of impact will occur. Your turnover will increase which will propel you forward and will waste less energy since you will now be moving forward and back not up and down.”
Perhaps I am overstriding, don't know. Will have to watch some stuff to see. If I am, that would be good to know since it sounds I can get faster/more efficient/safer if I shorten.
I feel like my strides are shorter since my ankle injury, already.
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F Me In The Brain said:Strides the same as steps?
My tracker counts steps per minute. This morning I reached 100 per minute at max
Speed was 9.8 mph and the fasted mile I did was 830.
That is a good speed for me, especially dragging this ankle around.
If I was meant to almost double that number of steps per minute I think I might die!
(Alternately, I would be very fast!)Yeah, it sounds as if your tracker is off. 9.8mph or a 9:50ish pace? 9.8mph is nearly a six-minute mile pace.If you're running an 8:30 - 9:00 pace your cadence should be 170+, just because you would need that amount of turnover to hit that pace (unless you have really long legs?).I had one of the early FitBit mini-pods, and I hated it because it was so inaccurate; it DID help a bit to correct the stride length the device was using. So you might want to see if your tracker needs to be calibrated.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
Thanks. That was the top run speed...the pace around 9 minutes is correct based on distances and times I can reference w/o the polar device.
The stride piece may be what is screwed up.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
The bounciness that @GlowGirl quotes is a real thing, too: if you have a lot of up-and-down movement in your gait, that's wasted energy that COULD be propelling you forward instead of moving you up and down.I'll try to find analysis of Shalane Flanagan's gait -- she's a very efficient runner, and watching her run was very instructive for me.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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That was easy. I found this was a very helpful video:(Shalane Flanagan running technique)All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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Will check out, thanks!The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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curmudgeoness said:That was easy. I found this was a very helpful video:(Shalane Flanagan running technique)This was interesting, although painful to watch. Watched another of the same guy's videos -- he can over-explain something with the best of them!Good info though, I am glad I have it and it gives me something to think about when I am doing this.Looked a little on the web about my device, a Polar watch. It appears they report half numbers."for example, in Polar products a running cadence of 180 steps per minutes shows as 90"So....my 85 average and 100 max on the run yesterday was 170 average and 200 max.Being that you shared 180 steps is considered optimal I will know I can improve there.Anyway, question solved there.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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F Me In The Brain said:curmudgeoness said:That was easy. I found this was a very helpful video:(Shalane Flanagan running technique)This was interesting, although painful to watch. Watched another of the same guy's videos -- he can over-explain something with the best of them!Good info though, I am glad I have it and it gives me something to think about when I am doing this.Looked a little on the web about my device, a Polar watch. It appears they report half numbers."for example, in Polar products a running cadence of 180 steps per minutes shows as 90"So....my 85 average and 100 max on the run yesterday was 170 average and 200 max.Being that you shared 180 steps is considered optimal I will know I can improve there.Anyway, question solved there.
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GlowGirl said:F Me In The Brain said:curmudgeoness said:That was easy. I found this was a very helpful video:(Shalane Flanagan running technique)This was interesting, although painful to watch. Watched another of the same guy's videos -- he can over-explain something with the best of them!Good info though, I am glad I have it and it gives me something to think about when I am doing this.Looked a little on the web about my device, a Polar watch. It appears they report half numbers."for example, in Polar products a running cadence of 180 steps per minutes shows as 90"So....my 85 average and 100 max on the run yesterday was 170 average and 200 max.Being that you shared 180 steps is considered optimal I will know I can improve there.Anyway, question solved there.Indeed!I would love to run faster on these long runs. Think of the impact it would make to run 2 minutes faster per mile...at 26 miles that is close to an hour sooner I could stop running.I remember talking to a guy who inspired me last year at the early stages of this foolishness...right before my first 10k. Made the mistake of asking him how long he takes when running 10ks."I am not that fast, I am better over distance...""Yeah, but what was the last time you did, do you recall?""33 minutes"the fuck?!He is late 50s.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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Wow!! A 10K in 33 minutes. Insane. I have only run a 10K distance six times since September, and my fastest time was 1 hour and 4 minutes -10:26 minutes per mile. That guy could have finished the race, went home, showered, and made a sandwich while I would still be running
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Yep, he is also training for a 100 mile ultra.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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And I am not a fast runner, either. I'm just under an hour at the point, typically.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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Did manage to run 19 miles this morning faster than my previous long run of 18 miles, beat that time but more than a minute!
Was cruising through 16 and then.....blammo
Hit a fucking wall and was slow the last three.Post edited by F Me In The Brain onThe love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
F Me In The Brain said:Did manage to run 19 miles this morning faster than my previous long run of 18 miles, beat that time but more than a minute!
Was cruising through 16 and then.....blammo
Hit a fucking wall and was slow the last three.0 -
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I am visiting my parents for a few days (for the first time in almost a year I might add - with a negative COVID test right before I got here). Anyway, just went for a run in their suburban neighborhood. The pros compared to running in NYC are the wide streets, very few cars passing by, and not having to stop for lights or dodge people on the sidewalks. But holy shit - the hills here are insane. Running along the East River in NYC is relatively flat with a few small inclines here and there. But here it is all hills. I am not used to that. To compare - according to my app the elevation for my normal route in NYC is about 40 ft. My route today was 345 ft. It is probably good for me to practice running hills occasionally, but I am not used to that. I did find one side street that was relatively flat except for one massive hill at the end. I am going to do one more run here on Tuesday and may stick with running up and down that street over and over. I threw my form out of the window today in terms of looking straight ahead. I looked down quite a bit as to not see the hills in front of me. I may have given up had I been looking straight up. But did my 5 miles so I am happy.
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