Canadians: Vault #10 shipping - Be Careful:

Zod
Zod Posts: 10,953
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I was ordering Vault 10 and noticed 2 shipping options.  UPS Standard and Standard International Shipping.    UPS charges an assload to handle the brokerage (the fee they charge to determine how much tax you owe).   It's the cheaper option this year, so I know lots of people are going to choose it, only to get a large nasty bill when the record gets delivered. 

You can self clear packages from UPS (pick them up somewhere and run them through customs yourself).  That always felt like a pain to me.

I noticed that by adding the deaf charlie vinyl to the order for some reason the international shipping option dropped from 62.99 to 44.75.   That's how I'm going to check it out.   Quite often when it's USPS to Canada Post packages under $100 fly through without customs charges.   Even if they get dinged it's about $15+gst/hst/pst.    A lot better than UPS's $30 or $40 plus tax.

short version:  Fuck UPS (when it comes to international mail).

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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,298
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    You don’t have to wait any extra time. Just call them as soon as you get the tracking number.
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  • BV84003
    BV84003 Holt, MI Posts: 478
    The rules state that Vault vinyl must be ordered separately. I'd take caution if you add anything else to the order, as they'll probably reach out to you and/or cancel it.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Horse2345 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    You don’t have to wait any extra time. Just call them as soon as you get the tracking number.

    Doesn't work for me. I have to email them or call them once the item is here in the city so they will send me the UPS forms, so I can take to the local customs department who complete the B15 form. They won't send me the forms of the item is still in the USA or in another province. 

    A poster I just picked up shipped via UPS wanted $60 CDN for customs / fees from the USA. Poster was $100. So I self cleared it and only paid $19 dollars at the customs department. 
  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,298
    demetrios said:
    Horse2345 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    You don’t have to wait any extra time. Just call them as soon as you get the tracking number.

    Doesn't work for me. I have to email them or call them once the item is here in the city so they will send me the UPS forms, so I can take to the local customs department who complete the B15 form. They won't send me the forms of the item is still in the USA or in another province. 

    A poster I just picked up shipped via UPS wanted $60 CDN for customs / fees from the USA. Poster was $100. So I self cleared it and only paid $19 dollars at the customs department. 
    Weird, i’ve self cleared multiple items and never waited.
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  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,298
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    If you follow that there’s a good chance you’ll end up paying or have twice as much work because with Covid more of them are just delivering the package and mailing you a bill weeks later. (Fedex has always done this) 
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Horse2345 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    If you follow that there’s a good chance you’ll end up paying or have twice as much work because with Covid more of them are just delivering the package and mailing you a bill weeks later. (Fedex has always done this) 
    So call them as soon as you get the tracking # and start the process. Fair enough 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,953
    BV84003 said:
    The rules state that Vault vinyl must be ordered separately. I'd take caution if you add anything else to the order, as they'll probably reach out to you and/or cancel it.
    I missed that part.    It's too late now.   I'm sure it'll work out.   I guess the new checkout process isn't stopping people from including it in a larger order.
  • DKedzie
    DKedzie Posts: 142
    Nice tip.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    edited October 2020
    Horse2345 said:
    demetrios said:
    Horse2345 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    You don’t have to wait any extra time. Just call them as soon as you get the tracking number.

    Doesn't work for me. I have to email them or call them once the item is here in the city so they will send me the UPS forms, so I can take to the local customs department who complete the B15 form. They won't send me the forms of the item is still in the USA or in another province. 

    A poster I just picked up shipped via UPS wanted $60 CDN for customs / fees from the USA. Poster was $100. So I self cleared it and only paid $19 dollars at the customs department. 
    Weird, i’ve self cleared multiple items and never waited.

    For me I have to wait all the time. Once the UPS package is in the city I need to email them for the paper work. Then take it to the customs to complete . Pay the B15 form. Take a snapshot photo of it. Email them it's done. Then get the reply back my package is ready to pick up. 
    Post edited by demetrios on
  • joeembleton
    joeembleton Glasgow Posts: 412
    demetrios said:
    Horse2345 said:
    demetrios said:
    Horse2345 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Or just follow this. If you don’t mind waiting a few extra days.

    https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/how-to-avoid-broker-fees-just-in-time-for-online-xmas-shopping/#pencil
    You don’t have to wait any extra time. Just call them as soon as you get the tracking number.

    Doesn't work for me. I have to email them or call them once the item is here in the city so they will send me the UPS forms, so I can take to the local customs department who complete the B15 form. They won't send me the forms of the item is still in the USA or in another province. 

    A poster I just picked up shipped via UPS wanted $60 CDN for customs / fees from the USA. Poster was $100. So I self cleared it and only paid $19 dollars at the customs department. 
    Weird, i’ve self cleared multiple items and never waited.

    For me I have to wait all the time. Once the UPS package is in the city I need to email them for the paper work. Then take it to the customs to complete . Pay the B15 form. Take a snapshot photo of it. Email them it's done. Then get the reply back my package is ready to pick up. 
    WOW, that is one heavily involved process.
  • vinyl boy
    vinyl boy Posts: 205
    Just received from 10Club.  Seems like a decent answer to me.  Having it shipped to Canada and willing to pay the extra to avoid all the border extra charges bs 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Thanks for the email 10club.
    Order placed! 
  • bone
    bone Posts: 499
    vinyl boy said:
    Just received from 10Club.  Seems like a decent answer to me.  Having it shipped to Canada and willing to pay the extra to avoid all the border extra charges bs 
    Still seems bogus when Joe Average can walk to his local shipping outlet and ship something the same weight for way less with tracking and get it to the final destination way faster.  
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  • vinyl boy
    vinyl boy Posts: 205
    Not saying this new vault will reach this value but I’m not willing to gamble and not spend a little extra on shipping and miss out on having it in my collection 
  • bone
    bone Posts: 499
    vinyl boy said:
    Not saying this new vault will reach this value but I’m not willing to gamble and not spend a little extra on shipping and miss out on having it in my collection 
    Agreed.  Still doesn't change the fact the shipping is overpriced.  
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited October 2020
    I bought one and my wife bought one. We were at the show. I want one to listen to and one as a back up in case anything ever goes wrong. 

    We will lump it and pay UPS. Last vault cost me 147 CDN. It’s a lot... but far from the most Ive paid for a record. These vaults hold their value. 

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