Pearl Jam: Why The Band Fired Drummer Dave Abbruzzese

Spiritual_Chaos
Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,718
edited October 2020 in The Porch
Don't know if this is an appreciated YT channel. I know his Guns N Roses channel and videos have gotten a lot of flack from the GnR community. 

But this popped up on my youtube feed:

https://youtu.be/bte1zGkVx8Q
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,369
    was it the lame soulpatch?
  • CROJAM95 said:
    was it the lame soulpatch?
    Say what?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,369
     :s  Fuck you got me


  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    This seems like the rumor-type shit the 10C isn't too keen on.  You know, hearsay and the like.

    Enjoy!
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,718
    edited October 2020
    hedonist said:
    This seems like the rumor-type shit the 10C isn't too keen on.  You know, hearsay and the like.

    Enjoy!
    Why does it "seem" like that? Every bit of information in the video is referencing a source and actual quotes.

    So, what is "hearsay"..?

    lol. Not like something "explosive" is in the video. It's just a chronology of Dave A's time in the band and post the band. And him giving the band their biggest hit with "Beth".
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Do what you like. I just remember other similar stuff posted about Cornell and others. 

    No skin off my nose so have at it. “lol” indeed. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,982
    I didn't watch the video, but I always thought it was because he embraced the rock star life, while the rest of the band was trying to pull back from it.

    I've always felt kind of bad from him.  He joins the band.   Drums with them when they are the height of the success/popularity.   Life is good, then he gets fire, and loses it all in the flash of an instance.

    I still feel he was wronged when PJ got inducted into the HHOF.   Dude drummed and supported the band on 2/3 of their biggest albums.   It wasn't like he was a replacement that joint the band long after it built its legacy.

    I'll stop ranting.   I just feel bad for the guy.
  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    The RRHOF snub stinks. They act like he was one of Nirvana’s early drummers, and not a creative force for the band.
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  • The RRHOF snub stinks. They act like he was one of Nirvana’s early drummers, and not a creative force for the band.
    chad channing got screwed too. i was glad that dave grohl had the class to admit that on that stage, not to mention saying to millions that all he did on nevermind was copy chad's drum parts. 
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  • man, the guy narrating that video needs to wake the fuck up. holy shit. reminds me of the teacher from ferris buhler. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,898
    man, the guy narrating that video needs to wake the fuck up. holy shit. reminds me of the teacher from ferris buhler. 
    Yea. Also don't like how he pronounces some words.
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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    Someone once said replacing Dave A was like pulling a bad ass V8 from a Mustang, and replacing it with a smaller, more efficient V6. 
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  • I thought the main reason he was canned involved him owning guns and enjoying them. You know, he was simply not of the same thread as the other band members. I also believe the song Glorified G (best song on Versus) was written with him in mind. I'm not saying ... I'm just saying. 
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Dude is the Don Felder of Pearl Jam. We all know it's a touchy subject, and we're not entitled to the ins and outs of personal stuff just because we're fans, but even the Eagles (and Grohl's Foos for that matter) let the former members with whom there was acrimony say their pieces in the docos. Jack, Dave and Chad should all have been inducted but I'd say since Jack was already in with the Chilis he didn't care.
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  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    Dave A was more of a cymbalist than a drummer. Horrible sounding drum kit and his overuse of cymbals, including tiny splashes and chinas and whatever was annoying as hell. Glad that they got proper drummers after him.  (sorry, not sorry)
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  • I loved his style personally. 
    And i thought it was gun lovin that didnt work with ed.


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  • Niko80
    Niko80 Posts: 1,613
    Dave A had a great musical dynamic with the band. Seeing Eddie sing and scream with Dave crashing the kit in the background was powerful, and was the Pearl Jam I fell in love with. I think most people underestimate Dave’s contribution to their sound and music. He had flair and soul in his play, and a sense of funk. He also played rough and hard. Personally I love his use of cymbals, and I think it compliments most of the songs.

    I love Matt, but I am glad Dave had the seat in the years that he did. Listening to State of Love and Trust from Atlanta 1994 at the office now. Killer version! 
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  • mrk2 said:
    Dave A was more of a cymbalist than a drummer. Horrible sounding drum kit and his overuse of cymbals, including tiny splashes and chinas and whatever was annoying as hell. Glad that they got proper drummers after him.  (sorry, not sorry)
    There was not a single thing wrong about how he used the cymbals when playing.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrk2 said:
    Dave A was more of a cymbalist than a drummer. Horrible sounding drum kit and his overuse of cymbals, including tiny splashes and chinas and whatever was annoying as hell. Glad that they got proper drummers after him.  (sorry, not sorry)
    There was not a single thing wrong about how he used the cymbals when playing.
    I agree. A wonderful  sound  cacophony 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • WindowPaine
    WindowPaine Chicopee, MA Posts: 543
    Zod said:
    I didn't watch the video, but I always thought it was because he embraced the rock star life, while the rest of the band was trying to pull back from it.


    i always thought this 'reason' was laughable. he embraced the rock star life....yet the band was playing arenas, making music videos, on SNL, etc. yea THAT'S not being a rock star or anything. 
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