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    OnWis97 said:
    The Dem message (and the message of anyone who wants all votes counted...so anyone who's not a fan of Trump) should be "Mail in your votes by October 15.* If not, please deliver it in person or vote in person."

    *Or whatever that appropriate date should be.
    I like this idea.  Set a date that gives everyone time.  Still worry about the timing of the counting the mail in votes.  Do they start counting early?  Or do they sit in a pile and only get counted if the outcome is close?  I just don’t trust the GOP, as they have already proven every time they don’t want a fair election.
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  • cutz said:
    This idiot says he won't trust the election if he loses.  I am registered a republican and I get texts from the whole Truymp family encouraging me to mail in my vote.  WTF is it Donald?

    Vote Biden everyone!
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    mace1229 said:
    I understand the argument of voting in person, because there will be ballots in question. I don't know why states are extending the deadline, some as many as 14 days I think. Ballots showing up November 17 but postmarked November 3 are definitely going to raise questions.  If anyone is going to mail in a ballot they should do it early and it should be counted immediately, not days or weeks later. 

    trump recently cut post office resources for the sole purpose to get the mail behind schedule. That’s why some states are legally extending the deadlines.
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    bootleg said:
    I like this idea.  Set a date that gives everyone time.  Still worry about the timing of the counting the mail in votes.  Do they start counting early?  Or do they sit in a pile and only get counted if the outcome is close?  I just don’t trust the GOP, as they have already proven every time they don’t want a fair election.


    Some states count early, some are legally required to wait until Election Day to begin counting.

    In response to the OP, I agree anyone that wants trump out needs to vote in person. Covid is no excuse, unless someone has a severe preexisting condition. Every single mail in vote has to be considered to potentially be worth zero votes based on how trump manipulated the post office budget and his plan for many lawsuits to have mail in ballots thrown out.
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    trump recently cut post office resources for the sole purpose to get the mail behind schedule. That’s why some states are legally extending the deadlines.
    The post office doesn't count ballots, right? Its not going to take 14 days to mail an envelope within state, 2 or 3 days tops. 
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    mace1229 said:
    The post office doesn't count ballots, right? Its not going to take 14 days to mail an envelope within state, 2 or 3 days tops. 

    Many states have laws that ballots must be received by Election Day. Are you saying the post office does not have the ability to delay about 70,000 ballots? Are you saying hundreds of thousands of Americans will not wait until the last week to mail their ballots? Yes millions will mail them in early, but millions will wait until the last week. With the cuts to the USPS, this will be an issue.
  • Today my in-laws told my wife that she received her mail in ballot in NJ.  The problem is my wife hasn't voted in NJ since 2004, that moved first to VA with me in 2005 and then to MD in 2006 and has been registered to vote in MD since 2007.  Can you see where there are some problems with just mailing out ballots?
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    This idiot says he won't trust the election if he loses.  I am registered a republican and I get texts from the whole Truymp family encouraging me to mail in my vote.  WTF is it Donald?

    Vote Biden everyone!
    Trump's stance: if I'm losing, mail in ballots matter; if I'm winning, mail in ballots are rigged. He plays both sides and everyone let's the fuck wad work them up whatever he says. He doesn't care. He just loves the headline.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Many states have laws that ballots must be received by Election Day. Are you saying the post office does not have the ability to delay about 70,000 ballots? Are you saying hundreds of thousands of Americans will not wait until the last week to mail their ballots? Yes millions will mail them in early, but millions will wait until the last week. With the cuts to the USPS, this will be an issue.
    Of course people will wait. I’m saying even a flooded market with ballots, it’s still not going to take 14 days to mail an envelope in state. I bet Christmas is a much busier season by far and a Christmas card will still make it across state in a couple days. 
    I would question if a large number of ballots postmarked 11/3 suddenly show up and are counted 14 days later. Deadline should be the Friday after voting, Monday at the latest. I would question ballots showing up after that. To extend the deadline 14 days is ridiculous.
  • tbergs said:
    Trump's stance: if I'm losing, mail in ballots matter; if I'm winning, mail in ballots are rigged. He plays both sides and everyone let's the fuck wad work them up whatever he says. He doesn't care. He just loves the headline.
    Some things do boggle my mind and this is one of them...
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    mace1229 said:
    Of course people will wait. I’m saying even a flooded market with ballots, it’s still not going to take 14 days to mail an envelope in state. I bet Christmas is a much busier season by far and a Christmas card will still make it across state in a couple days. 
    I would question if a large number of ballots postmarked 11/3 suddenly show up and are counted 14 days later. Deadline should be the Friday after voting, Monday at the latest. I would question ballots showing up after that. To extend the deadline 14 days is ridiculous.
    This is an interesting conundrum. If I mail my ballot and it is postmarked by the deadline set by the state, but for some reason it doesn't show up until 14 days later, it should be discarded? I would be pissed. What should happen is that an investigation should be conducted regarding the Post Office responsible for delivery, not punishing a voter doing their due diligence. Once I turn my mail over to the USPS, it's on them to deliver it as expected, unless I messed up postage or an address. I agree, it would be ridiculous and highly suspicious if mail didn't get delivered for 2 weeks. I would want to know what the hell was going on with that USPS Office.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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