Anyone here tried this new thing called "jogging" ?

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    GlowGirl said:
    Today was great running weather. I wore my hoodie for the first time since the spring, but took it off after the first mile. The air felt great. Did 5 miles and had my best time in a while - but not quite as fast as The Juggler ;)
    Sounds like a nice warm up
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    quick nine mile sprint today. broke my pb of 30 minutes,...
    So you ran 9 miles in less than 3 minutes 30 seconds per mile?


    yeah. i've been working on upping my speed over the last couple of days
    You should get that documented by USA Track and Field since the fastest recorded human mile is 3:43.13.
    And the fastest recorded 10 mile is 44:24


  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited September 2020
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    quick nine mile sprint today. broke my pb of 30 minutes,...
    So you ran 9 miles in less than 3 minutes 30 seconds per mile?


    yeah. i've been working on upping my speed over the last couple of days
    You should get that documented by USA Track and Field since the fastest recorded human mile is 3:43.13.
    And the fastest recorded 10 mile is 44:24


    Well I don't like to advertise my speed but yeah, Vin Lananna from USA T and F is joining me for my sprint on Thursday in and around the Appalachian Mountains.

    But I'm 42 years old, though. I can't really see myself competing internationally again. It's just a lot to deal with. The press is brutal these days, but you never know. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Hahaha.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Took 14 mins off the half time I checked from two weeks ago and 8 minutes off the time from the actual Philadelphia Half Marathon for me last year.
    I was 6 minutes from my goal but the last few miles I was in no shape to do anything more than push to try and keep my base pace.  (Couldn't even hit that.)
    Probably should have worn the brace when mowing the lawn yesterday but wanted to see how my ankle would react.  It was barking at me this morning just putting the damn brace on.  By about mile 10 my legs were getting weaker and I was pretty concerned about my stride/rolling the ankle without strong leg support....so I really shortened things up and my poor left leg had to pretty much do double duty to keep things going.  Resulting calf pain was a gift from below.

    Oh well - another week in the books.  I thi k next weekend is 17.  :lol:

    Also - 42 degrees and a slight wind, felt like high 30s.  

    That's a great improvement! And too bad Philly isn't happening this year; I've run the half as well as the full (in November), which is a great course.

    42 degrees is just about perfect weather for a long run (she says, sitting comfortably in SoCal). I hope the leg is feeling better.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    quick nine mile sprint today. broke my pb of 30 minutes,...
    So you ran 9 miles in less than 3 minutes 30 seconds per mile?


    yeah. i've been working on upping my speed over the last couple of days

    Kind of like someone in a virtual challenge I'm doing who logged 40 hours of biking for last Tuesday. ;)
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    curmudgeoness said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    quick nine mile sprint today. broke my pb of 30 minutes,...
    So you ran 9 miles in less than 3 minutes 30 seconds per mile?


    yeah. i've been working on upping my speed over the last couple of days

    Kind of like someone in a virtual challenge I'm doing who logged 40 hours of biking for last Tuesday. ;)
    You might be dealing with a four legged individual though. They can put up twice as many hours as the rest of us. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,079
    How is everyone doing? My ankle that I slightly rolled on Saturday was completely painless for the past 3 days. For some reason today I woke up with some pain. I wore a compression sock to run and it helped. No pain while running. But I can feel it a bit now. I have had much worse ankle pain in the past, but know it can take a really long time to completely go away. I just wonder why it took 4 days to actually start hurting.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    curmudgeoness said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Took 14 mins off the half time I checked from two weeks ago and 8 minutes off the time from the actual Philadelphia Half Marathon for me last year.
    I was 6 minutes from my goal but the last few miles I was in no shape to do anything more than push to try and keep my base pace.  (Couldn't even hit that.)
    Probably should have worn the brace when mowing the lawn yesterday but wanted to see how my ankle would react.  It was barking at me this morning just putting the damn brace on.  By about mile 10 my legs were getting weaker and I was pretty concerned about my stride/rolling the ankle without strong leg support....so I really shortened things up and my poor left leg had to pretty much do double duty to keep things going.  Resulting calf pain was a gift from below.

    Oh well - another week in the books.  I thi k next weekend is 17.  :lol:

    Also - 42 degrees and a slight wind, felt like high 30s.  

    That's a great improvement! And too bad Philly isn't happening this year; I've run the half as well as the full (in November), which is a great course.

    42 degrees is just about perfect weather for a long run (she says, sitting comfortably in SoCal). I hope the leg is feeling better.
    Thanks.  8 this morning and it wasn't too bad.  
    The wind is the only thing I would gripe about....I grew up in VT and can deal with some cold (although 20 years in SoCal did weaken that some) but the wind can be pretty tough in Philly, as I'm sure you can recall 

    You seem to be the running vet on this thread, which is great.  What is the longest distance you have done?
    50 miles is my ultimate goal and am curious if you have done any Ultras?

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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    F Me In The Brain said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Took 14 mins off the half time I checked from two weeks ago and 8 minutes off the time from the actual Philadelphia Half Marathon for me last year.
    I was 6 minutes from my goal but the last few miles I was in no shape to do anything more than push to try and keep my base pace.  (Couldn't even hit that.)
    Probably should have worn the brace when mowing the lawn yesterday but wanted to see how my ankle would react.  It was barking at me this morning just putting the damn brace on.  By about mile 10 my legs were getting weaker and I was pretty concerned about my stride/rolling the ankle without strong leg support....so I really shortened things up and my poor left leg had to pretty much do double duty to keep things going.  Resulting calf pain was a gift from below.

    Oh well - another week in the books.  I thi k next weekend is 17.  :lol:

    Also - 42 degrees and a slight wind, felt like high 30s.  

    That's a great improvement! And too bad Philly isn't happening this year; I've run the half as well as the full (in November), which is a great course.

    42 degrees is just about perfect weather for a long run (she says, sitting comfortably in SoCal). I hope the leg is feeling better.
    Thanks.  8 this morning and it wasn't too bad.  
    The wind is the only thing I would gripe about....I grew up in VT and can deal with some cold (although 20 years in SoCal did weaken that some) but the wind can be pretty tough in Philly, as I'm sure you can recall 

    You seem to be the running vet on this thread, which is great.  What is the longest distance you have done?
    50 miles is my ultimate goal and am curious if you have done any Ultras?


    I once considered doing ultras. But -- I'm 51 and not getting any younger. Right now I split my time between running and lifting -- an odd place to be since most runners shy away from the weight room and bodybuilders and powerlifters generally think cardio is the devil, LOL. But lifting has made me faster -- I'm faster now than I was 7-8 years ago -- and all those miles and hills have given me leg muscles that are the envy of the women (and many men) at the gym. Right now, I'm feeling conflicted about my goals, but I don't think marathons or ultras would be good for my body. Your mileage and your body will vary, of course.

    I've done six or seven marathons. To state the obvious, the jump from 13.1 miles to 26.2 is a big one. I prefer to run half-marathons and 10Ks. Training for a marathon eats most of one's time: I found that 20-mile training runs weren't adequate preparation, but 22 miles was. Still, 22 - mile runs, plus warm-up and recovery, took up most of my day. And runs over 20 miles do weird and unpleasant things to my pelvic bones.

    I think training for an ultra means: 1)  focusing solely on running, unless you are retired and/or have someone to take care of the rest of adulting for you; 2) doing the bodywork (yoga, foam rolling, mobility) needed to keep your parts working smoothly as you get older; 3) SLOWING DOWN -- jokes about 13-mile sprints aside, most people take their "easy" and "slow" runs too hard and too fast.

    If you look at the times most ultra-runners (especially the older ones) are recording, they are taking a pretty relaxed approach to things. Be a tortoise, not a hare.  "Banking miles" doesn't work for distances of 26.2 and longer. People (usually men -- sorry, guys) sometimes burst across the starting line of a long run with the attitude that nailing down fast times for the early miles will pay off later in the race. Instead, they bonk. In my strongest marathon performances, I told myself "you're going to be out here all day, just sit back and relax." And each time, in the last six miles I passed *hundreds* of people, nearly all men, who had hit the wall and had to walk the rest of the race. My goal for any race of 13.1 or more is to record a negative split (second half faster than first half). If I can do that, I finish strong and feel good about my performance. :-)

    Just my thoughts and experience. I'd encourage you to seek out a community of ultra-runners for first-hand input. And I'd encourage running a 50K before a 50M. :-)
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Thanks, great info from your experience!
    The people who I know well that do this type of stuff are 10-15 years younger than I am and have been doing it for years.  Never having run a 5k before last year (running several, a 10k and a Half) and not actually running since college as part of sports (and not as a runner, just playing sports in general), it was a lot to do 13.1.
    The competitive gene kicked in, though, and then I met a man who did 50 for 50 and was planning 60 for 60.  This flipped the switch and I started planning silly stuff.
    That man was inspired by my being inspired from him and upped things to be a 100 Mile Ultra before he is 60.  

    My plan was to reassess after doing the half last year and the full this year to see how my body reacts.  I suspect that whatever I end up doing that I will agree about liking the shorter races more.  

    Clearly the pandemic was unplanned and allows me to focus on this most days.  I need an outlet for all of the feelings going on - as do so many others, clearly.  

    We will see what the next year brings.  First step is to meet the goal for November.  I can worry a out what is next the day after I do that.  
    (Actually I know myself well enough to know that I will start with what is next about five minutes after I finish.  Trying to work on that....lol)

    I like that there are a variety of different people here sharing and encouraging each other.
    This world pretty much sucks right now - we need more of this!
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    A lot of people turn to running for mental health reasons. I just finished reading "Running Is My Therapy," which goes into some of the science behind this. I think you will find that a lot of long-distance runners are running to manage depression, addiction, traumatic life events. So the community tends to be a supportive one.  I have a car magnet that says "Running is a mental sport -- and we are all insane!" and that's uncomfortably close to the truth.

    I generally work out for three hours/ day (that's not a typo). That means I usually feel pretty thrashed, but taking rest days is terrible for my state of mind. One of my goals right now is to find just the right level of intensity that allows me to maintain mental health without injuring myself.

    As for "I will start with what is next about five minutes after I finish," you sound like a runner. ;-) "That was awful; I can't wait to do it again!" is a common reaction to marathons, trail races, etc.

    Good luck!
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Impressed!  After the three hours do you feel good or just normal?  (Mentally, I mean. obviously you are in some level of pain every day from that sort of physical workout.)
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,079
    curmudgeoness said:
    A lot of people turn to running for mental health reasons. I just finished reading "Running Is My Therapy," which goes into some of the science behind this. I think you will find that a lot of long-distance runners are running to manage depression, addiction, traumatic life events. So the community tends to be a supportive one.  I have a car magnet that says "Running is a mental sport -- and we are all insane!" and that's uncomfortably close to the truth.

    I generally work out for three hours/ day (that's not a typo). That means I usually feel pretty thrashed, but taking rest days is terrible for my state of mind. One of my goals right now is to find just the right level of intensity that allows me to maintain mental health without injuring myself.

    As for "I will start with what is next about five minutes after I finish," you sound like a runner. ;-) "That was awful; I can't wait to do it again!" is a common reaction to marathons, trail races, etc.

    Good luck!
    I am also impressed by your workout schedule. I definitely agree that exercise of any type of great for mental health. About 10 years ago after I got out of a fairly awful relationship I was wallowing for several months. Yoga snapped me back to life. I still do yoga at least once a week to this day. I started running only a few years ago mainly for cardiac health so I am not a long distance runner or really training for any big races. I have run a few charity 5K runs. That's it. But I do notice that on my running days I feel great. I have increased my distance in the past few months from 3.5 mile runs to 5-6 mile runs. Not super far - but good for me. What I have been lagging on is my weight training. Before my gym closed I was weight training 3x a week, running 3x a week, and yoga and barre class 1x a week. Since the gym closed, I have kept up with running and yoga but have crapped out on my weight training. I bought a set of dumbbells and really hate using them at home. Half the time I forget. I think on a good week, I will pull them out 2x a week. But I still am not getting the same workout as at the gym with the machines. I am starting my gym back up in October (it opened a few weeks ago, but I froze my membership until October) - so I hope I can get back into it. You are very inspiring. F Me is right that this board has been great for motivation with everyone being so encouraging. Thanks all.

  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Impressed!  After the three hours do you feel good or just normal?  (Mentally, I mean. obviously you are in some level of pain every day from that sort of physical workout.)

    I don't know, to be honest. I've had a pretty rough time with depression and anxiety for the past few years (menopause is a b---h!). So it's hard for me to say what "normal" is. I always feel better than I did before I started. A good, strong, run leaves me feeling good, happy. I've had times when I could feel the darkness leaving my body while I am deadlifting. I'm definitely a different person after lifting than I am BEFORE my workout -- no longer cranky or irritable. Pre-pandemic, I had a weekly jujitsu/self-defense lesson that was the highlight of my week and always left me feeling awesome (kicking butt for an hour will do that!).

    To be clear, though, pain is not a regular part of my life. Fatigue is usually there, pain is not. Of course, I've been doing this for a while (running daily for twelve+ years, lifting seriously for nearly four, casually for much longer). But if you're experiencing regular pain, you might want to look into it -- more bodywork? more off-road running? This isn't supposed to hurt as a general rule.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    Need to get out tomorrow... need to run atleast once this week...
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  • The Juggler
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Need to get out tomorrow... need to run atleast once this week...
    Weak. Run at least once an hour for optimal benefits.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    17 m this morning.  Rained lightly for the first 6 miles.  The last three miles it rained pretty hard.

    Joy.

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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,079
    F Me In The Brain said:
    17 m this morning.  Rained lightly for the first 6 miles.  The last three miles it rained pretty hard.

    Joy.

    Wow. That is awesome mileage. Kudos. We didn’t get any rain here. It was humid though. I did 6.5 miles. That was plenty enough for me. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    The rain was not too big a deal until I hit a puddle that was deeper than I thought and my feet were quite a bit heavier for the rest of the time.

    Great job on expanding the normal boundaries of your distance.  Seems like you are comfortable at 5-6+ now!
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