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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    hsohi said:
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

    Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 
    Anything I said about Biden wrong?
    All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.
    See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  
    But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.
    UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    hsohi said:
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

    Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 
    Anything I said about Biden wrong?
    All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.
    See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  
    But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.
    UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 
    I haven't argued this for awhile...I was equating UHC with M4A.  I'm a M4A guy...I think we will inevitably get there.

    I have been saying for years that we should just start reducing the age that people qualify for medicare on a yearly basis until we are all covered.  
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  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    London Ontario 2013, Buffalo New York 2013, Lincoln Nebraska 2014, Quebec City 2016
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    hsohi said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    hsohi said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    You're pro endless war?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    hsohi said:
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

    Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 
    Anything I said about Biden wrong?
    All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.
    See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  
    But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.
    UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 
    I haven't argued this for awhile...I was equating UHC with M4A.  I'm a M4A guy...I think we will inevitably get there.

    I have been saying for years that we should just start reducing the age that people qualify for medicare on a yearly basis until we are all covered.  
    I would be supportive of getting there eventually if the gov't shows it can manage it efficiently.  If a person has a choice to buy into medicare or go private employer based, they will be able to make educated decisions on their care.  If they choose medicare and it proves to be efficient, quality and priced well, people will migrate to it.  That will force insurance companies to either lower their price, improve their services or die.  It's a great balance to me where the consumer gets a choice and let the best provider win.  
  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    edited September 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    You're pro endless war?
    Yes. I, like Biden and possibly every president/politician realize the military industrial complex is the real economic engine.

    Both parties eagerly passed the last defence budget recently.
    Post edited by hsohi on
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  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    hsohi said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 
    It’s ok, we will all laugh together at the victory party.

    I’m hoping to go to the Goldman Sachs Biden Gala in January 2021.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    hsohi said:
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

    I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.
    You're pro endless war?
    Yes. I, like Biden and possibly every president/politician realize the military industrial complex is the real economic engine.

    Both parties eagerly passed the last defence budget recently.
    Your sarcasm is noted.  

    You should review Biden's actual words and positions rather than relying on far left Reddit posts for your information.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,220
    I'm sitting this one out
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html
    Stock market term. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html
    Stock market term. 
    yeah, i read about it in the hyperlink in the article. 

    i obviously am not well versed in high finance.  ;)
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,220
    I'm sitting this one out
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html
    Stock market term. 
    yeah, i read about it in the hyperlink in the article. 

    i obviously am not well versed in high finance.  ;)
    Haha. All good. That’s one of many stupid sounding patterns when looking at a stock chart. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Biden

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,870
    The Juggler said:


    Yeah but there will be some huge lies about Biden that will stick. He has dementia. He is a socialist. He is weak. He is on drugs.

    or the idiot will have Biden indicted by Barr. He will have thousands of ballots thrown out in FL and AZ. This will continue to get uglier.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:


    Yeah but there will be some huge lies about Biden that will stick. He has dementia. He is a socialist. He is weak. He is on drugs.

    or the idiot will have Biden indicted by Barr. He will have thousands of ballots thrown out in FL and AZ. This will continue to get uglier.
    No doubt it's going to get worse, but most voters aren't buying it. So that's good news.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Biden
    hsohi said:
    mrussel1 said:
    hsohi said:
    Biden is the way to go:
    He supports endless war and intervention
    He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
    He dies not support universal health care
    He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

    I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.
    You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

    Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 
    Anything I said about Biden wrong?
    I'm afraid so.  Eventually, everyone dies.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    Biden
    wondered where the fuck he's been. News has been silent.....

    Mike Bloomberg to spend at least $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden
    By Michael Scherer

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bloomberg-money-florida-biden/2020/09/12/af51bb50-f511-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html



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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    wondered where the fuck he's been. News has been silent.....

    Mike Bloomberg to spend at least $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden
    By Michael Scherer

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bloomberg-money-florida-biden/2020/09/12/af51bb50-f511-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html



    To “benefit” or to “buy”?  I can get behind Biden, but fuck Bloomberg!
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,405
    Biden
    Well bless this lady. She may have voted for Trump last time, but she won't be fooled again!

    She refused to comment on the younger Mr. Trump’s appearance in Duluth, though he made no such attempts at deference. In a speech lasting more than 30 minutes, he impugned the former vice president’s mental fitness (“Is he going to be awake for the next Benghazi?”), made little mention of the pandemic (“We’re all fed up with the quarantine nonsense”) and attempted a joke about how Bill Clinton would rather kill himself than be stuck at home with Mrs. Clinton.

    Ms. Delgrande, the voter from northern Minnesota who backed Mr. Trump in 2016, said that those were the types of messages that once motivated her but no longer had the same appeal.

    “I don’t think Biden is pure or this knight in shining armor,” she said. “I kind of think he’s too old to be running. But I’d vote for anyone above Trump. He lied too much with this virus. He never told us! I would vote for a dogcatcher first. I have no choice.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/us/politics/Minnesota-poll-Biden-Trump.html

    It's a hopeless situation...

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