Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.

UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 

I haven't argued this for awhile...I was equating UHC with M4A.  I'm a M4A guy...I think we will inevitably get there.

I have been saying for years that we should just start reducing the age that people qualify for medicare on a yearly basis until we are all covered.  

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 

It’s ok, we will all laugh together at the victory party.

never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html

Stock market term. 

yeah, i read about it in the hyperlink in the article. 

i obviously am not well versed in high finance. 

Lerxst1992 said:

The Juggler said:

Yeah but there will be some huge lies about Biden that will stick. He has dementia. He is a socialist. He is weak. He is on drugs.

or the idiot will have Biden indicted by Barr. He will have thousands of ballots thrown out in FL and AZ. This will continue to get uglier.

No doubt it's going to get worse, but most voters aren't buying it. So that's good news.

Well bless this lady. She may have voted for Trump last time, but she won't be fooled again!

She refused to comment on the younger Mr. Trump’s appearance in Duluth, though he made no such attempts at deference. In a speech lasting more than 30 minutes, he impugned the former vice president’s mental fitness (“Is he going to be awake for the next Benghazi?”), made little mention of the pandemic (“We’re all fed up with the quarantine nonsense”) and attempted a joke about how Bill Clinton would rather kill himself than be stuck at home with Mrs. Clinton.

Ms. Delgrande, the voter from northern Minnesota who backed Mr. Trump in 2016, said that those were the types of messages that once motivated her but no longer had the same appeal.

“I don’t think Biden is pure or this knight in shining armor,” she said. “I kind of think he’s too old to be running. But I’d vote for anyone above Trump. He lied too much with this virus. He never told us! I would vote for a dogcatcher first. I have no choice.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/us/politics/Minnesota-poll-Biden-Trump.html