Anyone here tried this new thing called "jogging" ?

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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    El said:
    Actually one question I do have is if the shoes really matter. 

    Right now I am running in some old and worn new balance pair. 

    Does it really make a difference in getting some proper running shoes? If yes, what is that difference (as in do you feel it?) and what would you recommend? 
    YES the shoes really matter.

    If you wear the wrong shoes you can end up with all sorts of injuries that can or could prevent running altogether. 

    Go to a running specific store. Not a big box store.
    Get your gait checked.
    Find a brand or 2 that work for you.
    Monitor your mileage.  Shoes don't last forever.

    If you can, have multiple pairs and rotate your usage.
    Be aware that brands will tweak their shoes almost annually. Which can greatly effect fit and comfort. So don't  be afraid to try something else.
    I used to be a Nike guy but they kept making changes which didn't  always work for me.

    So now my street running shoes are usually Asics, Brooks, and Zoot. For trail I'm strictly LA Sportiva and Salomon.
    Good shoes are not cheap. Do not skimp it can make a big difference. 

    Be safe and have fun
    The tweaking of the shoes every year is annoying. I loved the Asics Cloud Nimbus 20s. But I hated the 21s. They were too wide for my somewhat narrow foot. So, I bought up like 4 pairs of the 20s while I could still find them and stored them away until I needed them. I still have one pair left that I haven't used yet. Luckily, I do like the 22s, and are currently wearing them now. I probably should buy a few pairs of those now before they bring out the 23s.

    I know a lot of people love Brooks. I haven't tried those yet.

    I got a late start on my run this morning which resulted in the second half of my run being too hot. did 4.6 miles. Was aiming for 5, but it was hot and I got to a natural stopping place on my route - so I ended there. I will make sure to start earlier for my next run.
  • El
    El Posts: 139
    Thanks a lot for the info and recommendations! 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Holy shit - return of the humidity.
    Was in the 70s with 97% humidity.  Only a four mile run but it took me about as long to stop sweating as it did to run.
    Got it in before the rain....which is good!
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    Holy shit - return of the humidity.
    Was in the 70s with 97% humidity.  Only a four mile run but it took me about as long to stop sweating as it did to run.
    Got it in before the rain....which is good!
    Running in the humidity is the worst. It’s good you finished before the rain. It’s raining here as well. Luckily, today is my off day. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    GlowGirl said:
    Holy shit - return of the humidity.
    Was in the 70s with 97% humidity.  Only a four mile run but it took me about as long to stop sweating as it did to run.
    Got it in before the rain....which is good!
    Running in the humidity is the worst. It’s good you finished before the rain. It’s raining here as well. Luckily, today is my off day. 

    You admitted before to not having run much in the cold, right?
    That is the worst, to me.  And, I prefer cold to hot temps most frequently...but running for a few hours and STILL being cold?  That sucks.
    (What we have to look forward to!  :lol:
    Enjoy the day off.  I don't need to run now until Saturday...but 15 miles. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    GlowGirl said:
    Holy shit - return of the humidity.
    Was in the 70s with 97% humidity.  Only a four mile run but it took me about as long to stop sweating as it did to run.
    Got it in before the rain....which is good!
    Running in the humidity is the worst. It’s good you finished before the rain. It’s raining here as well. Luckily, today is my off day. 

    You admitted before to not having run much in the cold, right?
    That is the worst, to me.  And, I prefer cold to hot temps most frequently...but running for a few hours and STILL being cold?  That sucks.
    (What we have to look forward to!  :lol:
    Enjoy the day off.  I don't need to run now until Saturday...but 15 miles. 
    Yes. I only started running outside in March when the gyms closed, so haven't run in the freezing cold. I think I will run outside until it hits the 30s. My gym membership starts back up next month. I am only going to go to get back into weight training. I think I can deal with that with a mask. But, will not use the treadmill until I absolutely have to - probably when it gets into the low 30s outside. That might be my cue. I am hoping to run outside until at least December. But we will see.

    I have been slowly buying some cold weather running gear. I have recently bought several long sleeve tech shirts and long running leggings. I also just bought a Nike dri-fit hoodie for some layering when needed. I don't have a rain gear running jacket - they are expensive. Not sure how much I would use it. But I still need to get a good hat or headband to cover my ears, and some winter socks. Jack Rabbit sells some merino wool running socks. Might also get some gloves. Am I missing anything?
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Merino underwear.
    Good call on the headgear and gloves.  
    I didn't do anything special with socks as the shoes are pretty warm.
    I have a jacket I ordered in amazon that is great.  It isn't too heavy but keeps the wind out.
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    Merino underwear.
    Good call on the headgear and gloves.  
    I didn't do anything special with socks as the shoes are pretty warm.
    I have a jacket I ordered in amazon that is great.  It isn't too heavy but keeps the wind out.
    Do you suggest a hat or a headband? I wore my regular cashmere winter hat in March and it really got all sweaty. Would a warm headband be better so it doesn't trap all that sweaty heat - or will the top of my head get too cold. What brand jacket do you have for the wind? Is it also rain proof?

  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Also, if you plan to run in icy conditions (which frankly I DON'T recommend), you will want Yak Trax for your shoes.

    Note also that some shoes come in all-weather versions. I've been wearing Brooks shoes for about 25 years. They have some shoes that have Goretex uppers (I've never tried them), others that are "all season" shoes, good for light trail use, snow, rain.

    Starting running is easy and requires very little gear, but, like any interest, it can quickly become expensive. Some of those expenses are very worthwhile, IMO. And, yes, good shoes -- the RIGHT shoes -- are key. So is the right running bra, if you're female. :-)
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    edited September 2020
    Well I don't have a lot of hair left so am hat friendly.  I do have hair and it does get sweaty - need to wash the hat every week for sure.  I wear a head cap made for winter so that it covers my ears and has slots for the sunglasses to fit.  Put my running cap over sometimes, sometimes I don't.

    If you have a full bushy head of hair I guess I might try headbands, but those will get nasty and need to be washed anyway 
    I've never worn a standard winter hat.  Have seen people running with them on, though.

    I have a brand that I buy through Amazon....Baleaf 
    I have a few different ones.  None are raingear but light water doesn't bother and they are warm when running.  If raining hard I would just put my columbia shell on.
    Baleaf is great.  Their stuff lasts as long as Nike or UA and is half price.  Their shirts are more comfortable, I think.  Their shirts are good but most of the running shorts are good as well.  When washing over and over the Nike shit fades and the logo comes off....Balaef looks like new.
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
    Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I am in NYC so it can get cold in the winter. I will run outside as long as I can before I take it inside to the treadmill. I had been running only on a treadmill for the past few years until the pandemic sent me running outside - which I really like. So, want to keep it outside for as long as I can stand it. So, I still need to get the socks, mittens, headband, and perhaps a windbreaker. I already have some pretty good coldgear tights from Under Armour. I am not sure I will run outside if the weather is cold enough to require polar fleece. But never say never.

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    GlowGirl said:
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
    Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I am in NYC so it can get cold in the winter. I will run outside as long as I can before I take it inside to the treadmill. I had been running only on a treadmill for the past few years until the pandemic sent me running outside - which I really like. So, want to keep it outside for as long as I can stand it. So, I still need to get the socks, mittens, headband, and perhaps a windbreaker. I already have some pretty good coldgear tights from Under Armour. I am not sure I will run outside if the weather is cold enough to require polar fleece. But never say never.

    Layering is important.
    But more importantly is good weather protection.
    Try and find a good, lightweight, water and rain proof but breathable jacket with a hood. 3 layer with taped seams.
    Then try and find windproof tights with a thin fleece layer. When you are running you don't need a lot to keep warm once your body is warmed up.
    I've  run many times in sub-zero conditions but with the right gear I was plenty warm.
    Too much gear and you sweat and that will chill your body.
    For your head a head/hat liner with a running specific hat will do the trick.

    For very cold and snow or wet conditions a good pair of fog free glasses or goggles are necessary  as well.
  • Don’t run in the cold without a toque! 
    What do you call them in the States again? Knitted Caps? Lol
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    About shoes: if you're new to all of this and aren't sure which shoe works for you, it makes sense to see if there's a running-shoe store near you (e.g. Fleet Feet, Runner's High -- NOT Dick's). A specialty store is more likely to employ actual runners, and they will know more about the shoes. It helps to bring your current running shoes with you -- wear patterns on the soles can tell you a lot.

    Once you find a shoe that works for you, you can order additional pairs online or pick them up wherever, but starting at a running store will save you time, pain and money.

    Running shoes generally are good for 300-500 miles. You can prolong their lifespan a bit by rotating them, meaning that if you are running every day, keep two pairs of shoes on-hand so the first pair has a chance to dry before you wear them again.

    I tend to have a rotation of 4-5 pairs of shoes, because I have some for speedwork, others for long runs, and a pair of trail/beach shoes. But if you're just getting started, there is no need to acquire a pile of shoes. I also stock up when last year's model goes on sale. If I'm going through five pairs/ year, saving $30/pair adds up.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    GlowGirl said:
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
    Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I am in NYC so it can get cold in the winter. I will run outside as long as I can before I take it inside to the treadmill. I had been running only on a treadmill for the past few years until the pandemic sent me running outside - which I really like. So, want to keep it outside for as long as I can stand it. So, I still need to get the socks, mittens, headband, and perhaps a windbreaker. I already have some pretty good coldgear tights from Under Armour. I am not sure I will run outside if the weather is cold enough to require polar fleece. But never say never.

    Layering is important.
    But more importantly is good weather protection.
    Try and find a good, lightweight, water and rain proof but breathable jacket with a hood. 3 layer with taped seams.
    Then try and find windproof tights with a thin fleece layer. When you are running you don't need a lot to keep warm once your body is warmed up.
    I've  run many times in sub-zero conditions but with the right gear I was plenty warm.
    Too much gear and you sweat and that will chill your body.
    For your head a head/hat liner with a running specific hat will do the trick.

    For very cold and snow or wet conditions a good pair of fog free glasses or goggles are necessary  as well.
    You have run in below zero F weather?

    That is commitment!

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    GlowGirl said:
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
    Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I am in NYC so it can get cold in the winter. I will run outside as long as I can before I take it inside to the treadmill. I had been running only on a treadmill for the past few years until the pandemic sent me running outside - which I really like. So, want to keep it outside for as long as I can stand it. So, I still need to get the socks, mittens, headband, and perhaps a windbreaker. I already have some pretty good coldgear tights from Under Armour. I am not sure I will run outside if the weather is cold enough to require polar fleece. But never say never.

    Layering is important.
    But more importantly is good weather protection.
    Try and find a good, lightweight, water and rain proof but breathable jacket with a hood. 3 layer with taped seams.
    Then try and find windproof tights with a thin fleece layer. When you are running you don't need a lot to keep warm once your body is warmed up.
    I've  run many times in sub-zero conditions but with the right gear I was plenty warm.
    Too much gear and you sweat and that will chill your body.
    For your head a head/hat liner with a running specific hat will do the trick.

    For very cold and snow or wet conditions a good pair of fog free glasses or goggles are necessary  as well.
    You have run in below zero F weather?

    That is commitment!

    There is no bad weather

    Just bad gear
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    GlowGirl said:
    Cold weather gear (old woman with Raynaud's and no body fat here!). Note that my runs generally are at least an hour. I've run regularly -- daily -- for the past thirteen years, 40-65 miles/week.

    -- Smartwool socks -- my feet turn to blocks of ice with standard running socks.
    -- "hot hands" hand warmers
    -- mittens are better than gloves for hand warmth, but BEST, IMO, are the convertible gloves with the top that flips back to reveal partial gloves (so you can grab your lip balm, car keys, whatever)

    -- polar fleece tights; I buy from Athleta, but I'm sure other places sell them too. They wick away sweat (so you will look down and wonder why your legs are covered with frost, LOL)
    -- if you plan to run in windy winter conditions (ugh) a windbreaker is key (the wind will suck the heat right out of you, and hypothermia is no fun); you also might want to look for tights with Gore-tex panels. Those are pricy, so make sure you are committed to running in truly sucky weather before buying.
    -- Compression base-layer shirt
    -- I prefer earbands to hats, because I'm female and ponytails are always in the way with hats.
    -- cotton kills; just don't wear it when running (in heat or cold!)

    Also, of course, "cold weather" varies by region. The above gear is for the Midwest and Northeast. I'm back in San Diego now, where winter gear is leggings, long-sleeved shirt, and, for me, lightweight gloves. And a vest, if it's damp and I'm heading to the beach.
    Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I am in NYC so it can get cold in the winter. I will run outside as long as I can before I take it inside to the treadmill. I had been running only on a treadmill for the past few years until the pandemic sent me running outside - which I really like. So, want to keep it outside for as long as I can stand it. So, I still need to get the socks, mittens, headband, and perhaps a windbreaker. I already have some pretty good coldgear tights from Under Armour. I am not sure I will run outside if the weather is cold enough to require polar fleece. But never say never.

    Layering is important.
    But more importantly is good weather protection.
    Try and find a good, lightweight, water and rain proof but breathable jacket with a hood. 3 layer with taped seams.
    Then try and find windproof tights with a thin fleece layer. When you are running you don't need a lot to keep warm once your body is warmed up.
    I've  run many times in sub-zero conditions but with the right gear I was plenty warm.
    Too much gear and you sweat and that will chill your body.
    For your head a head/hat liner with a running specific hat will do the trick.

    For very cold and snow or wet conditions a good pair of fog free glasses or goggles are necessary  as well.
    You have run in below zero F weather?

    That is commitment!

    There is no bad weather

    Just bad gear
    Wow.  Good on you!
    Having grown up in VT I handle the cold very well....but there are times when people are not meant to be outdoors for any period of time, imo.  :)
    Love the attitude & approach, though!
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    I've found that that maxim has changed with time/ age, LOL. We would go to winter trail runs, there would be young guys (high school/college) in tanks, shorts, hat and gloves, a foot of snow on the ground. Good for them!

    But I have little insulation and wonky circulation, which isn't getting any better with time, so I find that I get to a point where so much gear is required to maintain my core temperature that it's just not worth it. But, kudos to those who can get out in it, whatever the weather.

    And a solitary run in a gentle snow, right at about 30 degrees, big fluffy flakes, can be VERY nice.
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,080
    Well I don't have a lot of hair left so am hat friendly.  I do have hair and it does get sweaty - need to wash the hat every week for sure.  I wear a head cap made for winter so that it covers my ears and has slots for the sunglasses to fit.  Put my running cap over sometimes, sometimes I don't.

    If you have a full bushy head of hair I guess I might try headbands, but those will get nasty and need to be washed anyway 
    I've never worn a standard winter hat.  Have seen people running with them on, though.

    I have a brand that I buy through Amazon....Baleaf 
    I have a few different ones.  None are raingear but light water doesn't bother and they are warm when running.  If raining hard I would just put my columbia shell on.
    Baleaf is great.  Their stuff lasts as long as Nike or UA and is half price.  Their shirts are more comfortable, I think.  Their shirts are good but most of the running shorts are good as well.  When washing over and over the Nike shit fades and the logo comes off....Balaef looks like new.
    Thanks. I just checked out Baleaf. Their prices are certainly more reasonable than what I have bought at Nike and Under Armour. I recently bought a Nike dri-fit hoodie for $75. It looks like Baleaf has something similar for $29.99. I already have a Columbia rain jacket. But saw a Baleaf windbreaker that might be good. I think right now I have enough gear to get me through the Fall - except for gloves and the headband. I might need those if it is cold in the mornings. Do any of you use neck gaiters when running. My issue with running in the cold is breathing in the cold air. That really hurts my throat and ears. Do neck gaiters help with that. Of course, masks may help with that as well.