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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2020
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Glorified KC said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    He likely will face those charges as an adult. I'm not sure how the system works out there, but here in Pennsylvania, the juvenile probation office would request a "Certification Hearing" to "certify him" up to adult court. The JPO office would argue why they think he should be certified, and his defense attorney would argue against it. It'd be a pretty easy case to certify given not only his age, but the nature of the offense, and fact that he drove some distance to get there. The defense attorney will make some sort of mental health argument and request an evaluation. It won't help his case though. He very much knew what he was doing. 

    Edit: Well this is all moot considering Mace's post above stating "Under Wisconsin law, anyone 17 or older is treated as an adult in the criminal justice system."
    I’m thinking that the weapons charges will stick.  The 1st degree intentional homicide, I’m not sure.
    Yeah the weapons chargres definitley. I'm not sure about 1st degree homicide either. 
    I'm pretty cynical any murder charge will stick to this kid as well.  
    Well the argument that I've been making suggesting he will be convicted is that he broke several serious gun laws. So if you're breaking gun laws, and you end up shooting and killing someone, maybe that can be murder because you shouldn't have had the gun to begin with.

    The argument his defense attorney will certainly make is that in both shootings, at least by the videos I've seen, the person he shot was aggressively charging at him. Let's be real, that's probably exactly what he wanted. And he might have even verbally provoked an attack in hopes he'd have a reason to shoot. But that's unclear at this point. 
    At what point is a person allowed to fear for their life and be aggressive toward a vigilante with an AR or other long rifle? Especially someone that fits a profile of a white domestic terrorist school shooter type?
    I would suggest refraining from being aggressive towards anyone merely based off of how they look and the color of their skin ;)
    If he was out there shooting at random people trying to shoot as many as possible, then I would commend his aggressors.  But that’s not what was happening from the videos I saw...And where were all of those other gunshots coming from?  Has anyone verified the source of the rest of the gunfire out there?  

    Yep, you’re right, it’s obviously the rectangle glasses.  Case closed...
    You left out a few though...
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  • hedonist
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    Crocs with socks?! Good lord. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    hedonist said:
    Crocs with socks?! Good lord. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
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  • static111
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited August 2020

    Systemic:

    In 2018, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth lashed out at what he called "garbage people," after five people of color were arrested for allegedly stealing about $5,000 worth of merchandise.

    "We need to build warehouses to put these people into it and lock them away for the rest of their lives," Beth said. "Let's stop them from truly, at least some of these males, from going out and getting 10 other women pregnant and having small children."

    Kenosha Shootings Expose Racial And Economic Divide : Live Updates: Protests For Racial Justice  - https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/08/28/907020399/shootings-expose-racial-and-economic-divide-in-kenosha

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  • bbiggs
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    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    Wow. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    Cmon. Let’s not get crazy 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    We have talked about this before, you can’t drink a bottle of Chardonnay and post.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,995
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    because being dominant in that situation will go so far to encourage reunification of a fractured country.

    would not have worked in 1865. sure as fuck would not work today.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 

    Ummm, no thanks.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 

    Ummm, no thanks.
    Yeah. I’m more for way higher voter turnout so these jag-offs go back under their rocks. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    We have talked about this before, you can’t drink a bottle of Chardonnay and post.  
    Pre drinks.  Lol. Seriously. We aren’t gonna legislate these assholes away with our twisted ideas of the 1st and 2nd amendments.   Half the shot that is a problem now is because the Union did not crush the south hard enough.  It’s sad that Sherman wasn’t brutal enough. 
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    Go Beavers said:
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 

    Ummm, no thanks.
    Yeah. I’m more for way higher voter turnout so these jag-offs go back under their rocks. 
    Voter turnout stops Trump.  Not the larger issues of racism  and property over people.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    These assholes aren’t gonna stop just because Biden/Harris wins.  If anything they are going to Make America Great Again Again on their own
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    These individuals think that the Democrat party and their supporters are evil as they are the ones sliding into facism.  Do you really think a presidential election with high voter turnout stops them?  Also what happens if Trump actually legit wins again, we sit here for 4 more years and do nothing?
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    We have talked about this before, you can’t drink a bottle of Chardonnay and post.  
    Pre drinks.  Lol. Seriously. We aren’t gonna legislate these assholes away with our twisted ideas of the 1st and 2nd amendments.   Half the shot that is a problem now is because the Union did not crush the south hard enough.  It’s sad that Sherman wasn’t brutal enough. 
    War is hell.    How could Sherman be any more brutal? Scorched earth is pretty much the worst you can do.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 
    We have talked about this before, you can’t drink a bottle of Chardonnay and post.  
    Pre drinks.  Lol. Seriously. We aren’t gonna legislate these assholes away with our twisted ideas of the 1st and 2nd amendments.   Half the shot that is a problem now is because the Union did not crush the south hard enough.  It’s sad that Sherman wasn’t brutal enough. 
    War is hell.    How could Sherman be any more brutal? Scorched earth is pretty much the worst you can do.  
    They let wealthy southern elites have a seat at the table before Blacks.  I realize it was a different time but look what is going on still today because of compliance. I mean the fact that people care more about statues of losers that didn’t want to be glorified than they do about the lives of descendants of slave says a lot.  If Joe is elected he is going to have to do some major moves because if this shit with the cops keeps happening it’s going to continue to get worse
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    @mcgruff10 I am only two beers in at this point 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    static111 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Can we just give Tejas to Mexico in exchange for them building the wall?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-violence/2020/08/27/3f232e66-e578-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

    ”Peaceful protests.”
    Everyday I feel more and more like we need another civil war and this time the winning side needs to be ruthless in establishing dominance 

    Ummm, no thanks.
    Yeah. I’m more for way higher voter turnout so these jag-offs go back under their rocks. 
    Voter turnout stops Trump.  Not the larger issues of racism  and property over people.
    That’s the long haul. Preserving a liberal democracy with a diverse population is going to take 20-30 years of work. 
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