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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,881
    What is crazy is how the WH people are trying to cover for him.  Fauci testified today that they had not been asked by Trump to slow down testing but that doesn't change the fact that the idiot said it.  And we should all be concerned that he would say such a thing...and even more concerned that he is lying about it.  Why?  How stupid....
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  • bootlegger10
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    Kat said:
    if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
    Reminds me of the Good Samaritan law on Seinfeld.     I would agree. 
  • bootlegger10
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:

    I will say this though about the media.  I think they clearly have twisted Trump's words on the testing comments lately.  I think it is clear that Trump is saying the US has more cases because we test more and that when he says if we didn't test we would have less reported cases.  He is all about comparing to other countries.  The media and late night comedians are disingenuous in claiming Trump thinks if we didn't test than there would be no cases.  

    I can't stand Trump but the media should do better.   When they twist words to fit their narrative it just gives the right more to be angry about.

    he clearly stated, and i watched the entire clip, that he wanted the testing to be slowed down so the numbers would go down. slowed testing=more deaths. that isn't leftist propaganda. that's a direct contextual quote and it's fucking disgusting. 
    He definitely said this at the rally.  I was referring to a clip I saw where someone implied Trump said that no cases would exist if there wasn't testing.  We all agree he wants to slow down tests so there aren't as many reported cases for  re-election campaign reasons.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,110
    bootlegger10 said:
    Kat said:
    if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
    Reminds me of the Good Samaritan law on Seinfeld.     I would agree. 

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,110
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:

    I will say this though about the media.  I think they clearly have twisted Trump's words on the testing comments lately.  I think it is clear that Trump is saying the US has more cases because we test more and that when he says if we didn't test we would have less reported cases.  He is all about comparing to other countries.  The media and late night comedians are disingenuous in claiming Trump thinks if we didn't test than there would be no cases.  

    I can't stand Trump but the media should do better.   When they twist words to fit their narrative it just gives the right more to be angry about.

    he clearly stated, and i watched the entire clip, that he wanted the testing to be slowed down so the numbers would go down. slowed testing=more deaths. that isn't leftist propaganda. that's a direct contextual quote and it's fucking disgusting. 
    He definitely said this at the rally.  I was referring to a clip I saw where someone implied Trump said that no cases would exist if there wasn't testing.  We all agree he wants to slow down tests so there aren't as many reported cases for  re-election campaign reasons.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,716
    Kat said:
    How about if the American people were in danger from a killer virus and you tried to prevent them from easily getting a test for a diagnosis so they could get treatment and maybe not infect others who might also die, by walking around in public? Is that similar?

    Kinda like with starting wars...kill one person and you're a murderer; kill thousands and you're a leader.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:

    I will say this though about the media.  I think they clearly have twisted Trump's words on the testing comments lately.  I think it is clear that Trump is saying the US has more cases because we test more and that when he says if we didn't test we would have less reported cases.  He is all about comparing to other countries.  The media and late night comedians are disingenuous in claiming Trump thinks if we didn't test than there would be no cases.  

    I can't stand Trump but the media should do better.   When they twist words to fit their narrative it just gives the right more to be angry about.

    he clearly stated, and i watched the entire clip, that he wanted the testing to be slowed down so the numbers would go down. slowed testing=more deaths. that isn't leftist propaganda. that's a direct contextual quote and it's fucking disgusting. 
    He definitely said this at the rally.  I was referring to a clip I saw where someone implied Trump said that no cases would exist if there wasn't testing.  We all agree he wants to slow down tests so there aren't as many reported cases for  re-election campaign reasons.
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  • stuckinline
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    Kat said:
    How about if the American people were in danger from a killer virus and you tried to prevent them from easily getting a test for a diagnosis so they could get treatment and maybe not infect others who might also die, by walking around in public? Is that similar?
    What if eventually there is a vaccine available for the killer virus and 'someone' tried to prevent them from access to a safe, accessible, low cost vaccine?
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,675
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    Steve Schmidt, who ran John McCain's 2008 campaign for president, was that person in an interview on MSNBC....

    Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a cons    equential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

    "When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

    "It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Steve Schmidt, who ran John McCain's 2008 campaign for president, was that person in an interview on MSNBC....

    Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a cons    equential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

    "When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

    "It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

    I believe I watched this live and while his words are apt and important, his tone of voice and body language as he spoke them is what grabbed me. Here’s a guy who has built a career being a repub political operative and he was totally and utterly disgusted. It’s pretty dramatic and the scary thing was it was raw, real emotion. Anyone who cares should try to find the clip and share it.
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  • The Juggler
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    Poncier said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Kat said:
    if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
    Reminds me of the Good Samaritan law on Seinfeld.     I would agree. 

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  • Lerxst1992
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Steve Schmidt, who ran John McCain's 2008 campaign for president, was that person in an interview on MSNBC....

    Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a cons    equential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

    "When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

    "It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

    I believe I watched this live and while his words are apt and important, his tone of voice and body language as he spoke them is what grabbed me. Here’s a guy who has built a career being a repub political operative and he was totally and utterly disgusted. It’s pretty dramatic and the scary thing was it was raw, real emotion. Anyone who cares should try to find the clip and share it.

    That's how Schmidt has been speaking on MSNBC since trump descended down that magic escalator that improved all of our lives.

    Too bad Schmidt didnt mention what really gives trump power - full compliance by the Senate GOP 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Steve Schmidt, who ran John McCain's 2008 campaign for president, was that person in an interview on MSNBC....

    Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a cons    equential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

    "When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

    "It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

    I believe I watched this live and while his words are apt and important, his tone of voice and body language as he spoke them is what grabbed me. Here’s a guy who has built a career being a repub political operative and he was totally and utterly disgusted. It’s pretty dramatic and the scary thing was it was raw, real emotion. Anyone who cares should try to find the clip and share it.

    That's how Schmidt has been speaking on MSNBC since trump descended down that magic escalator that improved all of our lives.

    Too bad Schmidt didnt mention what really gives trump power - full compliance by the Senate GOP 
    I thought he did allude to the "complicit senate" but I'm not sure. I was just struck how forceful in his disgust he was. But I guess you can't burn all of your bridges? But when are they, Senate repubs,  going to wake the fuck up? Mitchy Baby McConnell losing to an African American candidate would be icing on the cake of throwing Team Trump Treason's ass out onto the street to face indictments and prison time (my October surprise is that when it becomes obvious that Team Trump Treason is going to be trounced and thrown out of office and be indicted by SDNY, he resigns the office and is pardoned by Pence. Pence goes down on flames and Team Trump Treason blames him for running a shitty campaign with less than a month to go. Or putin on the ritz, having no further use for Team Trump Treason, releases the PTAPE in a final act of humiliation).
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,881
    For the life of me I still cannot understand how tRump supporters can still support him after his own Sec of State, Sec of Def, Chief of Staff, and Nat Sec Advisor have come out against him.

    Add in that the last two candidates that tRump supporters voted for (Romney and McCain) both came out against tRump.

    Add in that the last GOP POTUS (Bush) has come out against tRump.

    It makes no fucking sense.  We are in the Twilight Zone.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    And this Flynn shit today...unfuckingbelievable
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gern Blansten said:
    And this Flynn shit today...unfuckingbelievable
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    Gern Blansten said:
    For the life of me I still cannot understand how tRump supporters can still support him after his own Sec of State, Sec of Def, Chief of Staff, and Nat Sec Advisor have come out against him.

    Add in that the last two candidates that tRump supporters voted for (Romney and McCain) both came out against tRump.

    Add in that the last GOP POTUS (Bush) has come out against tRump.

    It makes no fucking sense.  We are in the Twilight Zone.
    There's really only one explanation...it's a cult.  It just is.  There's nothing that can turn them.  Nothing. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    For the life of me I still cannot understand how tRump supporters can still support him after his own Sec of State, Sec of Def, Chief of Staff, and Nat Sec Advisor have come out against him.

    Add in that the last two candidates that tRump supporters voted for (Romney and McCain) both came out against tRump.

    Add in that the last GOP POTUS (Bush) has come out against tRump.

    It makes no fucking sense.  We are in the Twilight Zone.
    There's really only one explanation...it's a cult.  It just is.  There's nothing that can turn them.  Nothing. 

    This!  The ultimate example of people being pig headed.

    No, I take that back.  I worked with pigs for a while several years ago.  Pigs are actually quite a bit more intelligent than these people. 
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