Donald Trump

The Juggler said:

People would trust an administration like the current one to control their health care?

Hard pass. 

Yeah, people who don't have health care absolutely would.
I hate the guy as much as anyone, and I would gladly give him control of my health care if it meant I could actually get some health care.

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

Not once in the last three years has the Baffoon ever stated “ The buck stops with me “ 

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

DeWine and Hogan (Rs) in particular have shown themselves to be good governors through this crisis.  Their citizens are their priority.  

josevolution said:

g under p said:

josevolution said:

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

Not once in the last three years has the Baffoon ever stated “ The buck stops with me “ 

I disagree, the buck always stop with Trump
ONLY when it's positive news or news that praises his decisions. Traits which shows he's NOT a leader, more like a parasite.

Peace

Ok when you put it that way I can def agree! 

He'd be a great leader in North Korea with these traits. They might be in the market for a new dictator...

josevolution said:

g under p said:

josevolution said:

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

Not once in the last three years has the Baffoon ever stated “ The buck stops with me “ 

I disagree, the buck always stop with Trump
ONLY when it's positive news or news that praises his decisions. Traits which shows he's NOT a leader, more like a parasite.

Peace

Ok when you put it that way I can def agree! 

No shit. What do parasites do, they attach themselves to a host then suck or eat the life out of the host. Trump is doing just that to our country.

If there was life in shit, Trump would find a way to suck the life out of it. Now that's some shit right der.

Peace

stuckinline said:

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

I do not agree with the majority of DeWine's political stances, but he is doing a fantastic job leading Ohioans during this Covid epidemic.

His only failing so far was the bullshit stance that he wouldn't prohibit church services....and some mega churches did have service.  So ok to shut down business and threaten response if ignored...but church's get a "please" and no followup.  Such a hypocrite.  Be science based all the time DeWine.

I'm for this.

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

It time for Medicare for All...  The promises given to FDR by Corporate America that they would "take care of this aspect of American life through competition" is not working. We have huge companies employing vast numbers of Americans that do not even have healthcare benefits.
  
Corporations no longer compete against each other for workers through enhanced benefit programs. 

Not to mention the argument of stifling creativity and invention because you lock your people into jobs based on fear of losing healthcare. 

You continue to try to take away my right to choose my insurance.  I chose my schools,  my cars,  my living condition,  my life insurance.  Yet you think you know better than me regarding what's right for my family. Im not trying to take away your options.  Im all for it.  Yet you know better than me. 

Listen to you... "Take away my insurance"  Not take away my healthcare?  I find it funny that you still think you have choices...haha

Lose your job.. you won't have any "Choices"
Transferred to a different area by your company? "Choices" are what your employer says are your choices.. 

If the care is the same, then your only problem with it seems to be all citizens getting it..  Attitudes like that are why we have problems like this.. ME ME ME ME .... 

You are right... I do what to take away your INSURANCE, and give you the same care but with the safety net not to lose evethign you've worked for all your life only because you or a loved one gets sick.. ... I want every American to have Healthcare.. doesn't matter if they stock grocery selves, work in hospitals, fast food... or have a cushy corporate job.. 

Maybe care just a little about your fellow citizens...humans??  

Oh and it's truly ironic that you argue against the Biden plan by saying that if I lose my job or change jobs I don't have a choice.  Yet under M4A, I never EVER have a choice.  

Biden plan? I never mentioned Biden once... 

Taking your choice away???    

You don't have a choice now.. You do what your employer says or you're on your own.. What kinda of choice is that? 

I want to give you healthcare without the worry of losing it for your family if you get sick or lose your job. 

I guess if you lack any empathy what-so-ever for your fellow citizens your position is understandable, yet at the same time you fail to see how M4A would protect you?  How is this any different than poor people voting for Republicans? Vote against your own best interests.. great idea!

Are you not even trying to comprehend what im saying? Im not advocating for the status quo.  Im advocating for a public health insurance option that allows a person to choose their corporate plan,  if it exists for them,  or a govt administered plan known as MEDICARE.  I get to stay on my private plan or choose a public one.  This will have the added benefit of forcing corporate plans to compete as well.  

And you don't "give" anyone anything.  TNSTAAFL. Period.  Maybe I lack empathy in your eyes,  but I think you lack comprehension skills. 

My comprehension is perfectly fine.. You are clear. And once again you refuse to answer the question. 

If the care is the same... why would you rather pay more for a plan that covers less and has zero protection if you lose your job?  

How long have you had your corporate job with that insurance plan? How'about the other people you've worked with for years...how long have they had it?

So let me get this correct.... for my comprehension !!!!!   You're okay standing on a plank? Okay with losing healthcare for you and your family and all those other people you've work with and their families at the mere whim of a Corporation?  


Then again I guess it depends on the Corporation...right? The people stocking groceries at Corporate Giant Walmart don't even get the option to buy healthcare insurance through their employer... I just hope the corporation you work for doesn't; decide to do the same before you retire.. 

myoung321 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

It time for Medicare for All...  The promises given to FDR by Corporate America that they would "take care of this aspect of American life through competition" is not working. We have huge companies employing vast numbers of Americans that do not even have healthcare benefits.
  
Corporations no longer compete against each other for workers through enhanced benefit programs. 

Not to mention the argument of stifling creativity and invention because you lock your people into jobs based on fear of losing healthcare. 

You continue to try to take away my right to choose my insurance.  I chose my schools,  my cars,  my living condition,  my life insurance.  Yet you think you know better than me regarding what's right for my family. Im not trying to take away your options.  Im all for it.  Yet you know better than me. 

Listen to you... "Take away my insurance"  Not take away my healthcare?  I find it funny that you still think you have choices...haha

Lose your job.. you won't have any "Choices"
Transferred to a different area by your company? "Choices" are what your employer says are your choices.. 

If the care is the same, then your only problem with it seems to be all citizens getting it..  Attitudes like that are why we have problems like this.. ME ME ME ME .... 

You are right... I do what to take away your INSURANCE, and give you the same care but with the safety net not to lose evethign you've worked for all your life only because you or a loved one gets sick.. ... I want every American to have Healthcare.. doesn't matter if they stock grocery selves, work in hospitals, fast food... or have a cushy corporate job.. 

Maybe care just a little about your fellow citizens...humans??  

Oh and it's truly ironic that you argue against the Biden plan by saying that if I lose my job or change jobs I don't have a choice.  Yet under M4A, I never EVER have a choice.  

Biden plan? I never mentioned Biden once... 

Taking your choice away???    

You don't have a choice now.. You do what your employer says or you're on your own.. What kinda of choice is that? 

I want to give you healthcare without the worry of losing it for your family if you get sick or lose your job. 

I guess if you lack any empathy what-so-ever for your fellow citizens your position is understandable, yet at the same time you fail to see how M4A would protect you?  How is this any different than poor people voting for Republicans? Vote against your own best interests.. great idea!

Are you not even trying to comprehend what im saying? Im not advocating for the status quo.  Im advocating for a public health insurance option that allows a person to choose their corporate plan,  if it exists for them,  or a govt administered plan known as MEDICARE.  I get to stay on my private plan or choose a public one.  This will have the added benefit of forcing corporate plans to compete as well.  

And you don't "give" anyone anything.  TNSTAAFL. Period.  Maybe I lack empathy in your eyes,  but I think you lack comprehension skills. 

My comprehension is perfectly fine.. You are clear. And once again you refuse to answer the question. 

If the care is the same... why would you rather pay more for a plan that covers less and has zero protection if you lose your job?  

How long have you had your corporate job with that insurance plan? How'about the other people you've worked with for years...how long have they had it?

So let me get this correct.... for my comprehension !!!!!   You're okay standing on a plank? Okay with losing healthcare for you and your family and all those other people you've work with and their families at the mere whim of a Corporation?  


Then again I guess it depends not the Corporation...right? The people stocking groceries at Corporate Giant Walmart don't even get the option to buy healthcare insurance through their employer... I just hope the corporation you work for doesn't; decide to do the same before you retire.. 

1. How do you know I will pay more in corporate than gov't?  You don't know what I pay today, and you don't know what I would pay if I had a choice between gov't and private.  So your assumption is without credibility.  I fully expect a gov't program to drive down the cost of the corporate programs.  They will have to compete.  Gov't insurance wont' be free.  

2. I've been employed everyday of my life since I was 16 and change, uninterrupted.  The only time I didn't have insurance was when I was under 18, a minor.  My parents did not have insurance, so I didn't either.  For the second part of your question, I spent 15 years at a national bank.  Would you like me to list each person I worked with and their length of employment?  I could break into the bank's SQL database and extract that, and then concatenate with my current corporate data.  I'll post that to twitter for you.  Does that work?

3. Your 'standing on a plank' statement. That question is nonsensical considering what I have said no less than 10 times.  If there is gov't and corp option, I may choose corp (after weighing the plans).  Then after I lost my job, I could go to the gov't.  Again, there must be a cognitive issue here because you ask questions and make statements that are disconnected from my oft repeated stance. 

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

stuckinline said:

rgambs said:

Statement by Ohio Republican Gov. Mike Dewine reminding the GOP what LEADERSHIP looks like.
I'm sure they will turn on him soon.  Too much spine.
"I am deeply concerned by the anti-Semitic sign at Ohio’s Statehouse during a recent protest rally.  The sign was vile and disgusting. While even disgusting speech is constitutionally protected, it still demands condemnation.  The recent Internet post by Ohio State Senator Andrew Brenner, likening Ohio’s Department of Health Director’s actions to fight the corona virus to those taken by the Nazis in Germany during World War II, must also be condemned.  The comments showed a complete lack of understanding of the Holocaust -- made even more offensive by posting on Holocaust Memorial Day -- and was a slur on a good, compassionate, and honorable person who has worked non-stop to save lives and protect her fellow citizens.  Any complaints about the policy of this administration need to be directed at me.  I am the office holder, and I appointed the Director.  Ultimately, I am responsible for the decisions in regard to the corona virus.  The buck stops with me."

I do not agree with the majority of DeWine's political stances, but he is doing a fantastic job leading Ohioans during this Covid epidemic.

His only failing so far was the bullshit stance that he wouldn't prohibit church services....and some mega churches did have service.  So ok to shut down business and threaten response if ignored...but church's get a "please" and no followup.  Such a hypocrite.  Be science based all the time DeWine.

I didn't realize he left church open.  Huge failure there.

All the churches near me and to my knowledge city wide are shuttered forcing AA meetings out too. HOWEVER , there is one small church right around the corner that has opened their sanctuary for meeting space since its not being used and has enough room for appropriate distancing and even go so far as to provide lysol spray for the cloth seating and lysol wipes for surfaces we may touch.