The women (ex's) can bring this on by being absolute bitches during the break up. The man may then gets depressed... by the time he's doing something to spite his ex... he's not even thinking straight.
no i do understand this, to a point - theres a right & a wrong way to split, and yea, som girls make it very frustrating and hard for the fathers. they use the kids as pawns and guilt trips to get what they want. In a perfect world the kids would spend time 50/50, but it just never happens like that very often.
people can and do get depressed over it. enough to harm themselves, which is just as wrong, but because they are not a child it gets overlooked. And you can scrape alchoholism, drug abuse, and depression right in with suicide on this one - it does just as much damage to a persons life.
But cases like this - the father / mother whoever the perp is, this is just being so selfish and uncaring. Its like if i cant have this child, well neither will you. and meanwhile the poor child gets where?? miserable, alone, dead.
Its the same as that guy who drove his kids into the dam on fathers day and pretended he tried to get them out. he killed them, so the mother wouldnt get them back
I would have boken my hands open on the windows getting them out.
and he pleaded insane. so is this latest guy apparently
:( remember that little boy from perth that the father took for an access a few weeks ago and they were looking in coober pedy for him - they just found him down a mineshaft - that is so sad, but you could see it coming
i swear, if that ever happened to my kids i wouldnt care if i had to wait 20 years, id kill the fucker when he got out
no i do understand this, to a point - theres a right & a wrong way to split, and yea, som girls make it very frustrating and hard for the fathers. they use the kids as pawns and guilt trips to get what they want. In a perfect world the kids would spend time 50/50, but it just never happens like that very often.
But cases like this - the father / mother whoever the perp is, this is just being so selfish and uncaring. Its like if i cant have this child, well neither will you. and meanwhile the poor child gets where?? miserable, alone, dead.
but you think if the mother was being that much of a bitch then she wouldnt let him have the kid in the first place, do you know what I mean?
So she was obviously nice enough to let him have his access visit.....
"....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
I know...imagine the poor Mum....she wouldve been hoping for the best, but now has to deal with this...:( :mad:
i think you would have had to know deep down what was going to happen here - its full of mineshafts, he went in with a child and turned up out with none. This will sound horrible i know, but i just hope he died before he went down one :(
but you think if the mother was being that much of a bitch then she wouldnt let him have the kid in the first place, do you know what I mean?
So she was obviously nice enough to let him have his access visit.....
who knows how she acted. Or how the father acted. Custody can bring out the dirty worst in people if you are not careful.
is great - i love the way little snatches of lyrics or symbols mean something to only a few
how much did it hurt there?? im thinking of one starting on the top of the foot going up and around the ankle ending back on the inside.
oh, um, yeah...i wouldnt get another tatt on my foot....EVER!!!!
I didnt want to keep going with the wave part coz its right on my ankle but went ahead with it...
Those lyrics are what I feel PJ give to me....without them, i am but a rock
"....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
but you think if the mother was being that much of a bitch then she wouldnt let him have the kid in the first place, do you know what I mean?
So she was obviously nice enough to let him have his access visit.....
wrong....
It's 50/50... you are one of the reasons the laws are currently being changed. You are blind... the laws used to be blind... as i said they are evolving for better access for the male who was seen as the lesser party in the situation previously. This idea is archaic.
When it comes down to it....unless you know the full story in these tragic situations....you can't judge!!
I do find it incredibly hard to comprehend.....someone would have to be absolutely out of their mind to harm or kill a child. I have seen some pretty nasty break ups and can totally see how it would drive a person to such a low, not many of us could even imagine.
This is why I try not to judge.....I've never been that low, so can't understand someone being low enough to commit such an horrific act.
I do get a little sceptial with some of these stories though.....it does seem to becoming a bit of a trend "If I can't have the kids - nobody can" and they know all they need to do is convince everyone they were insane at the time.
but you think if the mother was being that much of a bitch then she wouldnt let him have the kid in the first place, do you know what I mean?
So she was obviously nice enough to let him have his access visit.....
Dont the courts decide that, if they can have visits??
i have a friend that as soon as she eats, thats it, she want to go home to bed. i wont even let her buy a plate of chips!
cmon kylie - no beds in sydney - you have to stay up all nite
although i did wonder, its what?? a tuesday nite?? what will be happening??
Plenty will be happening if you head up to Kings Cross for a night's entertainment.
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My face has swollen right up again and my temperature's gone up, too....so I dunno
That doesn't sound good. :eek:
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It's 50/50... you are one of the reasons the laws are currently being changed. You are blind... the laws used to be blind... as i said they are evolving for better access for the male who was seen as the lesser party in the situation previously. This idea is archaic.
I hazard a guess you are female... :rolleyes:
yes i am female.
I hazard a guess you are male :rolleyes:
"....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
Dont the courts decide that, if they can have visits??
This is so sad.... :(
if the mum & dad cant agree then the court does still decide atm. they offer mediation and relationship councilling to try & come to an agreement. You have to go in with an open mind. so many people forget that they loved one another enough to create the children they are fighting over at one point in their past, so why should you hate each other so much now. Like two kids in a playground fighting over the same toy...
when i spil with my ex, I offered. the court agreed. He's never taken it up. But ive never badmothed him to the boys. Im a strong believer that behaviour just comes back to bite you in the future. Kids have to confident they came from a good place, not a mistake you made.
Plenty happens when I head up to Kings Cross for a night's work.
Do you also stand at the Wall in Darlinghurst?
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anyway... everyone was saying oh how it must have been a nasty man to do this... just giving you a possible cause of the scenario...
Nasty men sometimes only happen when they lose their heads and do not know what they are doing.... Maybe the guy was just a nut without any sinister underbelly... (this was not an opening for a topic of convo's about Underbelly!) heh
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no i do understand this, to a point - theres a right & a wrong way to split, and yea, som girls make it very frustrating and hard for the fathers. they use the kids as pawns and guilt trips to get what they want. In a perfect world the kids would spend time 50/50, but it just never happens like that very often.
people can and do get depressed over it. enough to harm themselves, which is just as wrong, but because they are not a child it gets overlooked. And you can scrape alchoholism, drug abuse, and depression right in with suicide on this one - it does just as much damage to a persons life.
But cases like this - the father / mother whoever the perp is, this is just being so selfish and uncaring. Its like if i cant have this child, well neither will you. and meanwhile the poor child gets where?? miserable, alone, dead.
Its the same as that guy who drove his kids into the dam on fathers day and pretended he tried to get them out. he killed them, so the mother wouldnt get them back
I would have boken my hands open on the windows getting them out.
and he pleaded insane. so is this latest guy apparently
heart breaking
So she was obviously nice enough to let him have his access visit.....
i think you would have had to know deep down what was going to happen here - its full of mineshafts, he went in with a child and turned up out with none. This will sound horrible i know, but i just hope he died before he went down one :(
who knows how she acted. Or how the father acted. Custody can bring out the dirty worst in people if you are not careful.
The only looser here is this poor little boy.
oh my!
love reading the comments
exactly.. how can she cope? i don't have kids but.. i don't know how i would handle this :(
I know this isnt really staying on topic but before i forget here is my new tatt.
Sorry if it seems trivial in comparison to recent events :(
is great - i love the way little snatches of lyrics or symbols mean something to only a few
how much did it hurt there?? im thinking of one starting on the top of the foot going up and around the ankle ending back on the inside.
Yep basically its all the puss and gunk.....:(
I didnt want to keep going with the wave part coz its right on my ankle but went ahead with it...
Those lyrics are what I feel PJ give to me....without them, i am but a rock
It's 50/50... you are one of the reasons the laws are currently being changed. You are blind... the laws used to be blind... as i said they are evolving for better access for the male who was seen as the lesser party in the situation previously. This idea is archaic.
I hazard a guess you are female... :rolleyes:
When it comes down to it....unless you know the full story in these tragic situations....you can't judge!!
I do find it incredibly hard to comprehend.....someone would have to be absolutely out of their mind to harm or kill a child. I have seen some pretty nasty break ups and can totally see how it would drive a person to such a low, not many of us could even imagine.
This is why I try not to judge.....I've never been that low, so can't understand someone being low enough to commit such an horrific act.
I do get a little sceptial with some of these stories though.....it does seem to becoming a bit of a trend "If I can't have the kids - nobody can" and they know all they need to do is convince everyone they were insane at the time.
'tis gorgeous!
as zen says.. lovely to have something that hits close to home with you now forever
does it still hurt?
Dont the courts decide that, if they can have visits??
This is so sad.... :(
My face has swollen right up again and my temperature's gone up, too....so I dunno
Plenty will be happening if you head up to Kings Cross for a night's entertainment.
That doesn't sound good. :eek:
I hazard a guess you are male :rolleyes:
if the mum & dad cant agree then the court does still decide atm. they offer mediation and relationship councilling to try & come to an agreement. You have to go in with an open mind. so many people forget that they loved one another enough to create the children they are fighting over at one point in their past, so why should you hate each other so much now. Like two kids in a playground fighting over the same toy...
when i spil with my ex, I offered. the court agreed. He's never taken it up. But ive never badmothed him to the boys. Im a strong believer that behaviour just comes back to bite you in the future. Kids have to confident they came from a good place, not a mistake you made.
Are you excited for your bday? What PJ song will you play to celebrate??
Do you also stand at the Wall in Darlinghurst?
anyway... everyone was saying oh how it must have been a nasty man to do this... just giving you a possible cause of the scenario...
Nasty men sometimes only happen when they lose their heads and do not know what they are doing.... Maybe the guy was just a nut without any sinister underbelly... (this was not an opening for a topic of convo's about Underbelly!) heh
*tsssssss* stinging noise :eek:
absolutely.. NOT excited haha
i think why go would be fitting... hahaha..
i wonder what zig is up to?
speaking of underbelly
i went to buy the dvd yesterday and it was ALL SOLD OUT!!!! :(
(baaaaaaad)
when's the appointment again? mid-May?