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Trend seems to be smart ass condescending remarks with a link to a website or a tweet. Good times here.0
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no.mickeyrat said:
just fucking stop all the repetitive fucking bullshit already. goddamn man.CM189191 said:
I directly answered your question, twice. Maybe you didn't understand the first time. And apparently not the second time either.tempo_n_groove said:CM189191 said:
here you go: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/documents/OGE278_2015_Biden.pdftempo_n_groove said:
I said "how much" and then you turned it into a Trump discussion.CM189191 said:tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms are great aren't they?CM189191 said:
I think what you meant to ask was, "how much has his wife recently sold?"tempo_n_groove said:
How much does his wife own?CM189191 said:Fun fact: Joe Biden doesn't own any stock
but here you go: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/documents/OGE278_2015_Biden.pdf
that took 10 seconds. now you go find trumps'. all of them. melania, jr, gums, kush. let's have a little transparency.
tng: "whatabout biden's wife"
it's fine, i'll wait
I'll wait too...
agai
I'll break it down.
I asked a question.
You retorted and made it into a Trump discussion.
I again reminded you that I asked "how much" not as it being a whataboutism but an actual question, I was curious.
You then again posted the same link in thinking that I didn't understand the first one you sent.
We are all clear here now, yes?
here you go: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/documents/OGE278_2015_Biden.pdf
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Man this day is rough.0 -
Falling down,...not staying down0
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What a jackass. He name drops Fienstein so then the reporter name drops the Republicans and he tries to ask her why she didn't mention the other names and keeps her mic cut so he can talk over her.Kat said:It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:
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Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:Scio me nihil scire
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Why, because four senators may have broken a law, we disallow it for the other 529 members forever more? No, disagree. They are still free citizens. The first thing I learned in management was that you don't punish the 98% who follow the rules, you manage the 2%.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:0 -
This isn't a 'management' issuemrussel1 said:
Why, because four senators may have broken a law, we disallow it for the other 529 members forever more? No, disagree. They are still free citizens. The first thing I learned in management was that you don't punish the 98% who follow the rules, you manage the 2%.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:
It's a matter of 'conflict of interest'
You want to be a public servant? Then serve the public interest, not your own. We the people get to set the rules and parameters.0 -
Agreed. Once you become an elected official, or receive an appointment to federal position, you should have to divest from owning stock in individual corporations. Mutual funds are fine.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:0 -
I couldn't disagree more with all of you on this point. Public service should not eliminate your ability to participate fairly in the economy. There's a reason people have to file their reports, to prevent the 'conflict of interest'. The fact that they filed these reports and now we know shows the system is working properly.0
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So a circuit judge should never again be allowed to purchase stocks? I can tell you that I wouldn't take the appointment. The median annual pay of a federal judge is $133k. That's a helluva lot less than they would make as a white shoe attorney. Now we want to hamstring them in other ways? Sorry, I think everyone is being far too narrow minded and over reacting to this situation.jerparker20 said:
Agreed. Once you become an elected official, or receive an appointment to federal position, you should have to divest from owning stock in individual corporations. Mutual funds are fine.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:0 -
A view that 133k is a low salary says a lot.mrussel1 said:
So a circuit judge should never again be allowed to purchase stocks? I can tell you that I wouldn't take the appointment. The median annual pay of a federal judge is $133k. That's a helluva lot less than they would make as a white shoe attorney. Now we want to hamstring them in other ways? Sorry, I think everyone is being far too narrow minded and over reacting to this situation.jerparker20 said:
Agreed. Once you become an elected official, or receive an appointment to federal position, you should have to divest from owning stock in individual corporations. Mutual funds are fine.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:Scio me nihil scire
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For a white shoe attorney, it is. You're asking them to take on public service but hamstringing them from equity investments. If you have a JD and put that much time and effort into school and now the federal bench, $133 really isn't obscene.static111 said:
A view that 133k is a low salary says a lot.mrussel1 said:
So a circuit judge should never again be allowed to purchase stocks? I can tell you that I wouldn't take the appointment. The median annual pay of a federal judge is $133k. That's a helluva lot less than they would make as a white shoe attorney. Now we want to hamstring them in other ways? Sorry, I think everyone is being far too narrow minded and over reacting to this situation.jerparker20 said:
Agreed. Once you become an elected official, or receive an appointment to federal position, you should have to divest from owning stock in individual corporations. Mutual funds are fine.static111 said:
Me too . The time for politicians getting a pass at profiteering through financial institutions needs to come to an end. What better time than now?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, I actually agree w her.mrussel1 said:0 -
mrussel1 said:I couldn't disagree more with all of you on this point. Public service should not eliminate your ability to participate fairly in the economy. There's a reason people have to file their reports, to prevent the 'conflict of interest'. The fact that they filed these reports and now we know shows the system is working properly.
But they aren't participating fairly, are they now?
Filing reports hasn't prevented conflict of interest, has it now?
The system isn't working properly, is it now?
With great power comes great responsibility. And with great responsibility comes sacrifice. - Peter Parker
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Presumably the other 530 members, plus all the members of the judiciary are, but you seek to take away their right to participate fairly because of the actions of these four. That's the solution for which I have a problem. The conflict of interest rules, SEC regulations and required filings are designed to ferret out these bad actors, and it appears in this case, it worked. Yet the solution be propositioned here is to take away the opportunity to be honest and earn in the stock market because of these four. That's fundamentally wrong in my book. Four people out of 535 (only using Congress) and yet we jump to a radical solution for the other 99.3%. Makes no logical sense.CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:I couldn't disagree more with all of you on this point. Public service should not eliminate your ability to participate fairly in the economy. There's a reason people have to file their reports, to prevent the 'conflict of interest'. The fact that they filed these reports and now we know shows the system is working properly.
But they aren't participating fairly, are they now?
Filing reports hasn't prevented conflict of interest, has it now?
The system isn't working properly, is it now?
With great power comes great responsibility. And with great responsibility comes sacrifice. - Peter Parker0 -
According to The Hill, U.S. Senators Richard Burr (R), Kelly Loeffler (R), Diane Feinstein (D) and James Inhofe (R) attended a classified briefing in Washington on January 24th with the Trump Administration. The four engaged in a massive stock selloff over the next week.
Inhoff (R) Oklahoma -
The same guy that brought the snowball to congress to show climate change was a hoax..
Same guy bought Raytheon stock days before it was granted a giant defense contract.
Between this ... the current Governor tweeting from a restaurant this week, and the Senators both voting against the CorononaVirus Bill...No wonder Oklahoma is always in the bottom 4 or 5 in state rankings..
Post edited by myoung321 on"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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The heart of the matter is that we have a sick economic and political system. The current checks and balances do not work and there is a need for significant change. Limiting the for profit activity of public servants in such a way to ensure their decisions are motivated to the public good instead of moneyed interests and financial gain is not a radical or terrible idea. If you want to make money off of financial markets, real estate etc. do so in the private sector. It’s insane to think that anyone with a significant amount of money invested in the private sector won’t be swayed when it comes to make important decisions or votes. If you want to make money as much money as possible from the markets don’t get into public service, or go do your public service and make your money after.Scio me nihil scire
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Who is taking away the opportunity? They want to invest in stocks, stay in the private sector. Easy way to avoid conflict of interest.mrussel1 said:
Presumably the other 530 members, plus all the members of the judiciary are, but you seek to take away their right to participate fairly because of the actions of these four. That's the solution for which I have a problem. The conflict of interest rules, SEC regulations and required filings are designed to ferret out these bad actors, and it appears in this case, it worked. Yet the solution be propositioned here is to take away the opportunity to be honest and earn in the stock market because of these four. That's fundamentally wrong in my book. Four people out of 535 (only using Congress) and yet we jump to a radical solution for the other 99.3%. Makes no logical sense.CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:I couldn't disagree more with all of you on this point. Public service should not eliminate your ability to participate fairly in the economy. There's a reason people have to file their reports, to prevent the 'conflict of interest'. The fact that they filed these reports and now we know shows the system is working properly.
But they aren't participating fairly, are they now?
Filing reports hasn't prevented conflict of interest, has it now?
The system isn't working properly, is it now?
With great power comes great responsibility. And with great responsibility comes sacrifice. - Peter Parker
You want to be a public servant. Take away the conflict of interest. No stocks for you.
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