Spring Tour Postponed - Letter from the Band

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    MC185899 said:

      I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    Do you count the person saying that they should keep people on a cruise ship for the sole purpose of not raising the statistics as one of these variables?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Magoo2
    Magoo2 Posts: 95
    As bummed as I am, thank you Pearl Jam, for making your decision.  Not an easy one, with no ability to really say whether it is right or wrong.  It was made with good intentions for the fans, the band and entourage and mostly for those who are vulnerable to this virus.  I wouldn't feel good living with the thought that I contracted the virus in a crowded venue and it didn't affect me, but I later spread it to a lesser fortunate person who could succumb to it's wrath.  Perspective helps put out the fire.  The not knowing is the hardest part.  It will be hardship for many people - especially the roadies I would imagine.  Which made it an even more difficult one.  I feel for the decision makers!   It's like being a parent, we try and hope to make the best decisions for our kids, and sometimes knowing all of the facts may be contrary to what we decide- you still have to go with your gut feeling.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    And you are free to think that. They are free to watch the bizarre statements our President continues to make and conclude exactly what was stated in the letter. It was a political issue long before yesterday and immediately rushing in to defend your tribe contributes to that. 
    I don’t think it was political(and never should have been political).  Nothing was going to stop this thing from spreading as long as people were traveling all over the world on planes, cruises etc....  The political party in charge wasn’t going to change any of that.  Not to mention that China was slow to report the truth.  This thing could have been here months ago for all we know.  But blame our politicians for that.  Don’t blame China for trying to keep it under wraps.  👍🏻 
    If you don't think this was political before yesterday then you either haven't been paying attention or are simply not being honest. Again, defending your tribe from any and all criticisms contributes to politicization. 
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  • MC185899
    MC185899 Posts: 76
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MC185899 said:

      I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    Do you count the person saying that they should keep people on a cruise ship for the sole purpose of not raising the statistics as one of these variables?
    You can take as much of this stuff out of context as you like.  That “person” has deferred to doctors and the people who understand the spread of infectious disease from the beginning.  Our media just wants to make it all about him so they can bludgeon him with it in the hopes it hurts his re-election chances. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,792
    Nick Namenone said:
    For those arguing that the current administration didn’t bungle the handling of the virus you might be right. It seems they are intentionally trying to get it to spread at least in certain communities. Although they don’t understand that this effects all communities. Being evil is the point. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article241046076.html

    No... they aren't right to suggest this administration hasn't bungled the handling of this. Less than a week ago Trump suggested "thousands or even hundreds of thousands" are getting better by "sitting around or going to work".

    One of the #1 recommendations is staying home if you have symptoms.


    It doesn't get any more blatant than this, the guy doesn't know what the f he's talking about, and his supporters refuse to admit or acknowledge it.



  • MC185899
    MC185899 Posts: 76
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    And you are free to think that. They are free to watch the bizarre statements our President continues to make and conclude exactly what was stated in the letter. It was a political issue long before yesterday and immediately rushing in to defend your tribe contributes to that. 
    I don’t think it was political(and never should have been political).  Nothing was going to stop this thing from spreading as long as people were traveling all over the world on planes, cruises etc....  The political party in charge wasn’t going to change any of that.  Not to mention that China was slow to report the truth.  This thing could have been here months ago for all we know.  But blame our politicians for that.  Don’t blame China for trying to keep it under wraps.  👍🏻 
    If you don't think this was political before yesterday then you either haven't been paying attention or are simply not being honest. Again, defending your tribe from any and all criticisms contributes to politicization. 
    It definitely IS political.  It just didn’t need to be.  Politicizing it doesn’t help make anyone safer.  We should all be coming together to help get through it.  Not sniping at the President in order to score political points.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    edited March 2020
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    And you are free to think that. They are free to watch the bizarre statements our President continues to make and conclude exactly what was stated in the letter. It was a political issue long before yesterday and immediately rushing in to defend your tribe contributes to that. 
    I don’t think it was political(and never should have been political).  Nothing was going to stop this thing from spreading as long as people were traveling all over the world on planes, cruises etc....  The political party in charge wasn’t going to change any of that.  Not to mention that China was slow to report the truth.  This thing could have been here months ago for all we know.  But blame our politicians for that.  Don’t blame China for trying to keep it under wraps.  👍🏻 
    If you don't think this was political before yesterday then you either haven't been paying attention or are simply not being honest. Again, defending your tribe from any and all criticisms contributes to politicization. 
    It definitely IS political.  It just didn’t need to be.  Politicizing it doesn’t help make anyone safer.  We should all be coming together to help get through it.  Not sniping at the President in order to score political points.  
    And the President should be leading us in that task, which is the job he was elected to do. What's on his mind this morning? Does this sound like a man interested in coming together?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237340894610759680
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,412
    I understand the decision completely.  But man I hope they don’t fuck about with refunds if it’s gonna be up in the air for a while for rescheduled shows
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • Magoo2
    Magoo2 Posts: 95
    KFC is on his mind

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,611
    MC185899 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MC185899 said:

      I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    Do you count the person saying that they should keep people on a cruise ship for the sole purpose of not raising the statistics as one of these variables?
    Our media just wants to make it all about him so they can bludgeon him with it in the hopes it hurts his re-election chances. 
    Oh, he doesn’t need the media’s help.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    edited March 2020
    Administrations fuck up the response to major issues all the time, this isn't new. Who cares if they (Ed and PJ) mentioned what is the truth right now. Are you the same people who defended the lack of response to Katrina? There are definitive steps and actions that can be taken prior to an all out pandemic. While the health of the stock market is important, it shouldn't be more important than the actual health of real people. This admin seems to be focusing on the effect instead of the cause and hoping it all just goes away when the weather warms up. Fucking stupid.

    This is terrible for everyone. It's not like this isn't a huge hit financially for Pearl Jam. Months of planning, logistics and labor involved to get this tour up and now, all for naught. Sure, they can probably eat the cost better than a lot of their fan base, but there is an impact.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • MC185899
    MC185899 Posts: 76
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    And you are free to think that. They are free to watch the bizarre statements our President continues to make and conclude exactly what was stated in the letter. It was a political issue long before yesterday and immediately rushing in to defend your tribe contributes to that. 
    I don’t think it was political(and never should have been political).  Nothing was going to stop this thing from spreading as long as people were traveling all over the world on planes, cruises etc....  The political party in charge wasn’t going to change any of that.  Not to mention that China was slow to report the truth.  This thing could have been here months ago for all we know.  But blame our politicians for that.  Don’t blame China for trying to keep it under wraps.  👍🏻 
    If you don't think this was political before yesterday then you either haven't been paying attention or are simply not being honest. Again, defending your tribe from any and all criticisms contributes to politicization. 
    It definitely IS political.  It just didn’t need to be.  Politicizing it doesn’t help make anyone safer.  We should all be coming together to help get through it.  Not sniping at the President in order to score political points.  
    And the President should be leading us in that task, which is the job he was elected to do. What's on his mind this morning? Does this sound like a man interested in coming together?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237340894610759680
    It looks like he’s in “business as usual” mode.  The entire virus team had a press conference yesterday.  They are doing them more frequently, as well.  I’m not sure what you want?  The President to panic on the daily?  We have like 400(?) cases for 330m people in this Country.  I’m sure those numbers will go up, but it sure seems like an overreaction as of now. 
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    The right decision. And thanks to you guys for making it as early as you could.  Major bummer for me and my wife as we already have flights booked from UK to LA for the Forum and Oakland shows... Not the end of the World.
    We are not super rich people but I went all out as I was 50 in February and wanted a BIG treat!!

    But again, it's the right decision and I wish everyone health and stay safe.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    And you are free to think that. They are free to watch the bizarre statements our President continues to make and conclude exactly what was stated in the letter. It was a political issue long before yesterday and immediately rushing in to defend your tribe contributes to that. 
    I don’t think it was political(and never should have been political).  Nothing was going to stop this thing from spreading as long as people were traveling all over the world on planes, cruises etc....  The political party in charge wasn’t going to change any of that.  Not to mention that China was slow to report the truth.  This thing could have been here months ago for all we know.  But blame our politicians for that.  Don’t blame China for trying to keep it under wraps.  👍🏻 
    If you don't think this was political before yesterday then you either haven't been paying attention or are simply not being honest. Again, defending your tribe from any and all criticisms contributes to politicization. 
    It definitely IS political.  It just didn’t need to be.  Politicizing it doesn’t help make anyone safer.  We should all be coming together to help get through it.  Not sniping at the President in order to score political points.  
    And the President should be leading us in that task, which is the job he was elected to do. What's on his mind this morning? Does this sound like a man interested in coming together?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237340894610759680
    It looks like he’s in “business as usual” mode.  The entire virus team had a press conference yesterday.  They are doing them more frequently, as well.  I’m not sure what you want?  The President to panic on the daily?  We have like 400(?) cases for 330m people in this Country.  I’m sure those numbers will go up, but it sure seems like an overreaction as of now. 
    You are giving him a pass for his behavior and contribution to the politics of the day while accusing others of being responsible for politicizing this issue. He is the President. His words and behavior matter. No one can be blamed for reading his tweets and listening to his words and concluding exactly what Ed stated in that letter. 
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  • Given2Fly-Fish
    Given2Fly-Fish Posts: 826

    Darth Lizard King said:
    Hey Man - STOP with the trolling and comparing HIV, Drug Overdoses and Cancer deaths to concerts being postponed due to a virus that we're all still learning about.  Get a grip you're offensive AF and your posts should be deleted by the mods.
    Yes, because anything that personally offends you should be wiped from existence.
    Nope.  I think these statements pretty much offended everybody...

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    MC185899 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MC185899 said:

      I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   
    Do you count the person saying that they should keep people on a cruise ship for the sole purpose of not raising the statistics as one of these variables?
    You can take as much of this stuff out of context as you like.  That “person” has deferred to doctors and the people who understand the spread of infectious disease from the beginning.  Our media just wants to make it all about him so they can bludgeon him with it in the hopes it hurts his re-election chances. 

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Mikusxkm said:
    I am so very sad and disappointed, I actually cried..... However, I completely understand and support the difficult decision the band had to make. 
    I hope everyone here can please quit bashing each other and PJ/EV. Life is hard enough without that kind of BS, and I think it’s about time for a little peace, love and understanding. Come on people, we are and can be better than that. 

    I was probably looking forward to seeing PJ again as much as anyone possibly could. My husband, our kids and their spouses and my brother were all going specifically for me. They love PJ too of course, but mostly it was meant to be a really good memory for us all. My health has been declining pretty quickly and I really am not sure how much longer I will have the stamina to go to a concert. I should know very soon whether I really am on my way out or if there is something else the docs can do for me. Either way, in an effort to try and stay positive, I am going to continue to look forward to seeing them again, just one more time! We all need something to look forward to, this is mine and I am going to hold on as tight and as long as I can. 
    Their music has been my sanity for awhile now. It makes me so happy and is a great distraction from the bad crap. I listen, love and sing my ass off with them every single day. They have no idea how much bad stuff they have helped get me through and how often they have been a part of some really great times. My life is definitely better while listening to my absolute favorite band! 

     So now I will be a brat. If I can understand and respect their decision, knowing that if the shows are postponed for too long I personally might not get to see them again, then I think the negativity towards each other and the band needs to stop please. To all of the fans who are disappointed but supportive of their decision, thank you! You are the best and truest of fans and I am quite sure it is noticed and appreciated. 

    Hopefully this crisis will soon end and people will not continue to suffer. 

    Thank you Eddie, Stone, Matt, Mike, Jeff and Boom........ I appreciate all that you do and stand for, keep fighting the good fight and with some hope and maybe some luck I will see you again!
    Sobering post (and not bratty at all!).  I wish you well :)
  • Rider
    Rider Posts: 129
    I am from Hillsborough NC and have gone thru the PJ show cancellation process before unfortunately.  I rarely post anymore because many of the people on here are incredibly selfish, spoiled and short sighted.  I have plenty of stake in this too - having non-refundable (?) flights on Air Canada for next week and great seats to Ottawa and QC, two fun cities.  
    BUT- I totally respect PJ's decision to post pone.  It is the right choice and I would have been stunned if they chose making $ over their fans health and safety.  This COV-19 thing is totally in limbo right now, we could have widespread quarrantines, airlines shut down, some form of martial law OR nothing much to be concerned with by May.  The point is, they did not want to put their fans (US) into a possibly bad situation and it's too early to tell.  
    Our federal government is absolutely not managing this crisis well so far and is acting out of their own interests and not the peoples.  Wake up.
    Madonna and Miley Cyrus just postponed dates too for the same reasons.  PJ is a leader not a follower, we all know that right?
    Good luck to all of us who need to untangle their travel arrangements!  Be safe!  Appreciate what you do have!

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  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,921
    hedonist said:
    Mikusxkm said:
    I am so very sad and disappointed, I actually cried..... However, I completely understand and support the difficult decision the band had to make. 
    I hope everyone here can please quit bashing each other and PJ/EV. Life is hard enough without that kind of BS, and I think it’s about time for a little peace, love and understanding. Come on people, we are and can be better than that. 

    I was probably looking forward to seeing PJ again as much as anyone possibly could. My husband, our kids and their spouses and my brother were all going specifically for me. They love PJ too of course, but mostly it was meant to be a really good memory for us all. My health has been declining pretty quickly and I really am not sure how much longer I will have the stamina to go to a concert. I should know very soon whether I really am on my way out or if there is something else the docs can do for me. Either way, in an effort to try and stay positive, I am going to continue to look forward to seeing them again, just one more time! We all need something to look forward to, this is mine and I am going to hold on as tight and as long as I can. 
    Their music has been my sanity for awhile now. It makes me so happy and is a great distraction from the bad crap. I listen, love and sing my ass off with them every single day. They have no idea how much bad stuff they have helped get me through and how often they have been a part of some really great times. My life is definitely better while listening to my absolute favorite band! 

     So now I will be a brat. If I can understand and respect their decision, knowing that if the shows are postponed for too long I personally might not get to see them again, then I think the negativity towards each other and the band needs to stop please. To all of the fans who are disappointed but supportive of their decision, thank you! You are the best and truest of fans and I am quite sure it is noticed and appreciated. 

    Hopefully this crisis will soon end and people will not continue to suffer. 

    Thank you Eddie, Stone, Matt, Mike, Jeff and Boom........ I appreciate all that you do and stand for, keep fighting the good fight and with some hope and maybe some luck I will see you again!
    Sobering post (and not bratty at all!).  I wish you well :)
    Ditto.  Hope they play soon for you....sounds like a great party you have planned!
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    hedonist said:
    Mikusxkm said:
    I am so very sad and disappointed, I actually cried..... However, I completely understand and support the difficult decision the band had to make. 
    I hope everyone here can please quit bashing each other and PJ/EV. Life is hard enough without that kind of BS, and I think it’s about time for a little peace, love and understanding. Come on people, we are and can be better than that. 

    I was probably looking forward to seeing PJ again as much as anyone possibly could. My husband, our kids and their spouses and my brother were all going specifically for me. They love PJ too of course, but mostly it was meant to be a really good memory for us all. My health has been declining pretty quickly and I really am not sure how much longer I will have the stamina to go to a concert. I should know very soon whether I really am on my way out or if there is something else the docs can do for me. Either way, in an effort to try and stay positive, I am going to continue to look forward to seeing them again, just one more time! We all need something to look forward to, this is mine and I am going to hold on as tight and as long as I can. 
    Their music has been my sanity for awhile now. It makes me so happy and is a great distraction from the bad crap. I listen, love and sing my ass off with them every single day. They have no idea how much bad stuff they have helped get me through and how often they have been a part of some really great times. My life is definitely better while listening to my absolute favorite band! 

     So now I will be a brat. If I can understand and respect their decision, knowing that if the shows are postponed for too long I personally might not get to see them again, then I think the negativity towards each other and the band needs to stop please. To all of the fans who are disappointed but supportive of their decision, thank you! You are the best and truest of fans and I am quite sure it is noticed and appreciated. 

    Hopefully this crisis will soon end and people will not continue to suffer. 

    Thank you Eddie, Stone, Matt, Mike, Jeff and Boom........ I appreciate all that you do and stand for, keep fighting the good fight and with some hope and maybe some luck I will see you again!
    Sobering post (and not bratty at all!).  I wish you well :)

    Indeed! Best of luck to you, @Mikusxkm!
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