The Democratic Presidential Debates

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

So the GDP of American Samoa is $658 million (as of 2016). That's in the ballpark of how much Bloomberg spent overall. Whatever the final total money amount spent on his own campaign turns out to be, he should match that amount with a donation to something. $600 million dollars could go a long way to combat homelessness or hunger. He can afford it. At least he'd walk away from all of this with some dignity. And he'd still have more than enough money to throw behind Biden.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

pjl44 said:

Shazam

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1235220026279579648?s=19

Good riddance.

Gern Blansten · March 2020

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

mrussel1 · March 2020

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

Gern Blansten · March 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

I didn't mean he was dropping out today....but he will drop out due to Joementum

Lerxst1992 · March 2020

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Bloomberg out and they just issued American Samoan suicide watch.

JimmyV · March 2020

2020: Totally Not 2016

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Bloomberg out and they just issued American Samoan suicide watch.

A sad day for American Samoa Island for sure.

But on a positive note, the sitting President probably had no idea the island even existed until last night, so if nothing else, Bloomberg got them a little notoriety.

dignin · March 2020

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

I didn't mean he was dropping out today....but he will drop out due to Joementum

I highly doubt it. Most likely take this to the convention. Sanders is far from done.

Everyone keeps forgetting that Joe hasn't been a very good candidate. But neither was Trump so who knows what will happen at this point.

I sure hope Biden can do better (debates, energy).

CM189191 · March 2020

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

pjl44 · March 2020

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

pjl44 said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

It's such a no-win situation. Either you run third-party and everyone hates you for it (Nader), or you join a party to avoid having to run third-party, and everyone hates you for it (Sanders)

Lerxst1992 · March 2020

dignin said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

I didn't mean he was dropping out today....but he will drop out due to Joementum

I highly doubt it. Most likely take this to the convention. Sanders is far from done.

Everyone keeps forgetting that Joe hasn't been a very good candidate. But neither was Trump so who knows what will happen at this point.

I sure hope Biden can do better (debates, energy).

Sanders is done. Time to immediately change his message.

He needed record breaking turnout to get the change he thinks the country wants.

But the reality is, in stunning victory after stunning victory in Bernie states, Biden got Obama level turnout to stop sanders cold and socialism.

pjl44 · March 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

It's such a no-win situation. Either you run third-party and everyone hates you for it (Nader), or you join a party to avoid having to run third-party, and everyone hates you for it (Sanders)

Yeah, for sure. We could probably have a separate thread about all the strategy considerations and even speculate on the disposition of someone like Sanders. As a voter, I just want to see a candidate that I align with and feel good about voting for. Gary Johnson was close enough for me and Justin Amash would be even better. Trump, Clinton, Biden, Sanders not so much.

F Me In The Brain · March 2020

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

It's such a no-win situation. Either you run third-party and everyone hates you for it (Nader), or you join a party to avoid having to run third-party, and everyone hates you for it (Sanders)

Yeah, for sure. We could probably have a separate thread about all the strategy considerations and even speculate on the disposition of someone like Sanders. As a voter, I just want to see a candidate that I align with and feel good about voting for. Gary Johnson was close enough for me and Justin Amash would be even better. Trump, Clinton, Biden, Sanders not so much.

I voted for the pothead Johnson last time around - this time I won't be fooled. Every vote to go where it is needed.

mrussel1 · March 2020

dignin said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

I didn't mean he was dropping out today....but he will drop out due to Joementum

I highly doubt it. Most likely take this to the convention. Sanders is far from done.

Everyone keeps forgetting that Joe hasn't been a very good candidate. But neither was Trump so who knows what will happen at this point.

I sure hope Biden can do better (debates, energy).

I think we've learned that the core of the party doesn't really care about the debates. We trust Joe. We know him. He's been one of us since before I was even born. I think that's all very powerful to the average Democrat who gets up, goes to work, slacks off during meetings on a PJ board, and goes home to the family at night. Perhaps all the things the talking heads (and us) gnashed our teeth over for six months was less relevant... debates, ads, ground game, social media (duh), etc.

pjl44 · March 2020

F Me In The Brain said:

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

It's such a no-win situation. Either you run third-party and everyone hates you for it (Nader), or you join a party to avoid having to run third-party, and everyone hates you for it (Sanders)

Yeah, for sure. We could probably have a separate thread about all the strategy considerations and even speculate on the disposition of someone like Sanders. As a voter, I just want to see a candidate that I align with and feel good about voting for. Gary Johnson was close enough for me and Justin Amash would be even better. Trump, Clinton, Biden, Sanders not so much.

I voted for the pothead Johnson last time around - this time I won't be fooled. Every vote to go where it is needed.

What state are you in? Does it make a difference? I'm in a deep blue state, so even from a strategic standpoint it doesn't matter.

pjl44 · March 2020

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

It's all happening folks. Bloomberg is out. If Biden can do what he did yesterday with no money.....imagine what he can do with an unlimited budget?

Yep....he immediately endorsed Biden and pledged his support. It's going to be beautiful.

Warren is next.

I imagine Sanders will fall in line and give a great speech asking his supporters to get behind Biden

Keep imagining!

Biden does have a strong lead. The way the delegates are allocated makes it difficult to close big gaps, but not impossible.

Yeah Sanders isn't dropping out. Nor should he. He's run a competitive campaign and is still in the thick of things. I do think though that once his time is up, he'll back Biden and ask his supporters to do the same.

But I've been wrong before...

I didn't mean he was dropping out today....but he will drop out due to Joementum

I highly doubt it. Most likely take this to the convention. Sanders is far from done.

Everyone keeps forgetting that Joe hasn't been a very good candidate. But neither was Trump so who knows what will happen at this point.

I sure hope Biden can do better (debates, energy).

slacks off during meetings on a PJ board

Literally my morning

F Me In The Brain · March 2020

pjl44 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

That said, and despite pleas to the contrary, I am firmly in the Make Third Parties Happen lane

Do you know how you make a multi-party system happen?
By rewriting the Constitution.

Do you know what you need to rewrite the constitution?
A constitutional convention.

Do you know what you need to make a constitutional convention happen?
By winning two-thirds of both houses of Congress.

Now I'm not sure under what scenario you think that's going to happen. But there's an entire element of the GOP that has been actively campaigning for a constitutional convention for years now. And it's certainly not going to result in a multi-party system.

https://apnews.com/e84cdca5b568402398eabfcd2b6ada07
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/republicans-and-the-constitution/amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/351204-gop-state-lawmakers-meet-to-plan-possible-constitutional-convention?amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec

It is extraordinarily unlikely, but the Libertarian or Green candidate could be elected President this year. Depending on individual state ballot access situations, they'll also be running candidates in many Senate and House races who could be elected. That is the extent of what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're carrying on about.

It's such a no-win situation. Either you run third-party and everyone hates you for it (Nader), or you join a party to avoid having to run third-party, and everyone hates you for it (Sanders)

Yeah, for sure. We could probably have a separate thread about all the strategy considerations and even speculate on the disposition of someone like Sanders. As a voter, I just want to see a candidate that I align with and feel good about voting for. Gary Johnson was close enough for me and Justin Amash would be even better. Trump, Clinton, Biden, Sanders not so much.

I voted for the pothead Johnson last time around - this time I won't be fooled. Every vote to go where it is needed.

What state are you in? Does it make a difference? I'm in a deep blue state, so even from a strategic standpoint it doesn't matter.

NJ, and no it didn't. Assume it would not this time, either, but I am not willing to take that chance. Would rather do something I thought I might not ever do & vote Dem in a Presidential Election.

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