The Democratic Presidential Debates
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i can't wait till nov when that orange bitch and all his idiot supporters start crying endlessly about a conspiracy to get him out of office.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.
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Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.
BTW - I loved the speech last night from Joe. I thought he killed it. We need much more of that, and with the field clearing, I'm hopeful that the narrative and coverage will change.0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.I SAW PEARL JAM0
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Ledbetterman10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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F Me In The Brain said:Lerxst1992 said:F Me In The Brain said:Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
That's an enormous distinction from past elections fighting a wealthy incumbent
And his message is a pro moderate message. Exactly what is needed to bake trump.Did he promise that today, or previous to his ducking out on the campaign?Only ask this because he also promised he would not quit even if he had a bad day on Tuesday.(I am glad he quit and I hope he spends money fighting Trump...just think it is worth asking to understand if he really will do it.)
Nobody saw this coming as recent as friday.
On Saturday night I saw the signs but Biden still had 3 moderates to fight off.
Then on sunday, obama moved oceans for the party.
Back to Bloomberg
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bloomberg-fund-sizable-campaign-effort-through-november-even-if-he-n1113421Thanks - so he made that commitment in January.Hope he keeps it, takes some nastiness to fight nastiness. (And, to fight Russia)
He mentioned it as recently as last week. He is really a democrat. The only reason he switched was the NYC dems wouldn't allow him to run for mayor.0 -
Ledbetterman10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.
I'm going to keep hammering away at it.
The base turned out in Obama style numbers. To vote Biden. I believe in all the states that have enough demographic base voters to influence a democratic primary.0 -
Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
The way Biden came back from the dead, literally and figuratively, is the perfect comeback kid story for the fall.
Biden took down Bernie with no "on the ground" resources and no TV ads.
I dont think we have ever seen a Lazarus story like this one.
He energized the base and the party saw what happened in SC and rallied to be at his side.
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Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:My guess is Biden is having a pretty good day at the fundraising office, with or without Bloomberg.
But on the other hand, good for Biden. He's put in his time in that Democratic Party. And all these years later, he's still standing. I respect that. And he has my vote. So go get 'em, Joe.
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mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:
Here's something that will shock no one on the boards.. old people vote, young people don't.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/youth-vote-sanders-biden-super-tuesday/index.html
That is why the base and moderates were 100% skeptical of bernie all along.
There's been alot of chatter that the millenial vote was down. It was in percentage but not in raw vote totals. The reason the percentage was down? Vanna?
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Lerxst1992 said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
The way Biden came back from the dead, literally and figuratively, is the perfect comeback kid story for the fall.
Biden took down Bernie with no "on the ground" resources and no TV ads.
I dont think we have ever seen a Lazarus story like this one.
He energized the base and the party saw what happened in SC and rallied to be at his side.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:
Here's something that will shock no one on the boards.. old people vote, young people don't.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/youth-vote-sanders-biden-super-tuesday/index.html
That is why the base and moderates were 100% skeptical of bernie all along.
There's been alot of chatter that the millenial vote was down. It was in percentage but not in raw vote totals. The reason the percentage was down? Vanna?
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mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
The way Biden came back from the dead, literally and figuratively, is the perfect comeback kid story for the fall.
Biden took down Bernie with no "on the ground" resources and no TV ads.
I dont think we have ever seen a Lazarus story like this one.
He energized the base and the party saw what happened in SC and rallied to be at his side.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
The way Biden came back from the dead, literally and figuratively, is the perfect comeback kid story for the fall.
Biden took down Bernie with no "on the ground" resources and no TV ads.
I dont think we have ever seen a Lazarus story like this one.
He energized the base and the party saw what happened in SC and rallied to be at his side.
I think those a little skeptical should look at Texas.
If my math is correct, tx turnout, with votes still to be counted, was up 520,000 - almost TRIPLE Ted Cruz' margin of victory in 2018. ( well more than double for sure)
If I were on team trump treason, I'd pay attention to that.
Yesterday, out of freaking nowhere, was a historic day for Democrats.0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
The way Biden came back from the dead, literally and figuratively, is the perfect comeback kid story for the fall.
Biden took down Bernie with no "on the ground" resources and no TV ads.
I dont think we have ever seen a Lazarus story like this one.
He energized the base and the party saw what happened in SC and rallied to be at his side.0 -
Bloomberg wanted to be POTUS. He isn't going to be a chump piggybank for anyone.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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Ledbetterman10 said:The Juggler said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:if it works, it wasn't a waste.
Bloomberg at this point is still one of the most important people in this race.
I agree he's still important in all this. Certainly more important than Warren who's "still in the race." And likely more important than Sanders following the convention. I just think Biden wasn't faltering as much as people think. Yeah he struggled in early states, but as he himself said, wait until South Carolina. And he was right. So Bloomberg sweeping in as a plan B to save the day might not have even been necessary. Just start bankrolling Biden the moment you feel he's struggling (maybe after New Hampshire). All of Bloomberg's money and experience doesn't mean a whole lot when he lacks a base of support, a personality, and an ability to connect with people outside of NYC, which are three things that Biden has going for him.
If the Dems (Warren and Pete in particular) had a lot of democratic voters convinced that Bloomberg was trying to buy the election, Trump will surly get that talking-point (that he's now trying to buy it for Biden) over with his crowd, and maybe with undecided voters as well. I dunno, I just think he'd have been better off behind the scenes of all this.
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Joe spent ZERO DOLLARS in Virginia.
I felt a tangible paradigm shift Monday night during the Amy/Beto endorsement rally.
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