The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    edited March 2020
    She has no path to victory, but she probably wants to give it a go in her home state of Minnesota. She's polling ahead of Sanders (barely), but I'm not sure that'll lead to a win for her. 

    She had a tough go at it last night in Minnesota though. Some protesters ruined her rally. They're alleging that someone that Amy helped convict was innocent....

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/amy-klobuchar-cancels-minnesota-rally-after-protestors-storm-in-with-a-message/ar-BB10DGy9
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,815
    Why do Black Lives Matter have it in for Amy?

    Klobuchar cancels campaign event after protesters occupy stage




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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    @brianlux
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) canceled a campaign rally Sunday evening in her home state of Minnesota after protesters demanded she drop out of the presidential race over her past handling of a case that put a Black teenager behind bars for life.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • brianlux
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    mcgruff10 said:
    @brianlux
    Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) canceled a campaign rally Sunday evening in her home state of Minnesota after protesters demanded she drop out of the presidential race over her past handling of a case that put a Black teenager behind bars for life.

    Thank you, McG.   Will this be the final nail for her or will the attention help? 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    edited March 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    Interesting read on Pete's final days.   Biggest problem was not being able to get that African American vote.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-final-month-buttigiegs-historic-055046640.html

    Inside the final month of Buttigieg's historic campaign

    An excerpt, rest of the article is linked:

    “You know, he very nearly pulled it off,” said David Axelrod, who served as the senior adviser to former President Barack Obama and was at times an unofficial Buttigieg booster.

    Axelrod cited Iowa's reporting fiasco and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar's New Hampshire surge as key factors that limited Buttigieg's rise.

    “If those two things would have been different, we would be having a different conversation now,” he said.

    Questions about Buttigieg's appeal with voters of color loomed over strong finishes in overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire, however. And as soon as the race shifted into more diverse terrain, Buttigieg's star began to fade.

    In Nevada, he finished in third place behind Sanders and former Vice President Joe Biden, even as he bested two senators and a billionaire. And by the time the race moved to South Carolina a week later, Buttigieg's weakness with African American voters was painfully exposed.

    He failed to hit double digits in the first-in-the-South contest on Saturday, scoring a distant fourth place in a state in which more than half of Democratic primary voters were not white. Less than two hours after holding what would be his final rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, Buttigieg was hunkered on the phone in a hotel near Americus, Georgia, working out the details of ending his campaign, people familiar with the conversation said.


    The Democrats are driven by their base.

    The base needs to know you in order to trust you. This is why we lean toward older nominees. Even obama was received with  some skepticism at first.

    Who ever is the nominee needs to have someone the base is enthusiastic about as VP.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,377
    dignin said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    No clue. But what the hell, let her enjoy her final 48 hours. She made it further than I thought she would. Though I guess making it to Super Tuesday isn't all that far. But still, A for effort I guess. 
    She has to be getting pressure to drop out. The whole consolidate moderates thing. Its gotta hurt all moderates watching her continue to split votes going into tomorrow. Take a deal like Pete (probably) did and go out on top. So what's the upside for her?
    all of them are on the ballot regardless.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


    You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

    You might want to remove that link.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


    You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

    You might want to remove that link.
    Is the content untrue?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited March 2020
    benjs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


    You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

    You might want to remove that link.
    Is the content untrue?
    I've posted two videos on the topic in this very thread a few pages, pointing to it being a skewed view of the man's history.

    If people would have watched them, that question of yours would have not had to been asked.

    How many bills has Mayor "Kill your baby" Bloomberg passed?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The Brain
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,377
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


    You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

    You might want to remove that link.
    Is the content untrue?
    I've posted two videos on the topic in this very thread a few pages, pointing to it being a skewed view of the man's history.

    If people would have watched them, that question of yours would have not had to been asked.

    How many bills has Mayor "Kill your baby" Bloomberg passed?
    given he was a mayor , i.e. executive branch, and not a legislator, I am going with none. He only signed or didnt sign legislation into law.....

    I would expect he put forth ideas that the council took up.....

    so whats your point?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    F Me In The Brain said:

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    edited March 2020
    dignin said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    No clue. But what the hell, let her enjoy her final 48 hours. She made it further than I thought she would. Though I guess making it to Super Tuesday isn't all that far. But still, A for effort I guess. 
    She has to be getting pressure to drop out. The whole consolidate moderates thing. Its gotta hurt all moderates watching her continue to split votes going into tomorrow. Take a deal like Pete (probably) did and go out on top. So what's the upside for her?
    It's funny because my own political beliefs support Amy going as far as she could. She got on the ballots, she garnered some support, so she should take it as far as she can. That's how I believe politics should go. Even if this awful two-party system. 

    But that's just me. Amy is, like many in the Democratic Party, of the belief that 1) Donald Trump is the second-coming of Hilter, and 2) Bernie Sanders cannot beat him in a general election. Well if that's the case, like you said, be like Pete. Get out of the way and let the voters who might have supported you choose between Biden and Bloomberg (or even Sanders, it's not fair to suggest that anyone that supports a moderate candidate now won't switch to Sanders after their candidate is gone). It would help avoid the situation that the Democrats dread where Bernie arrives at the convention with the plurality of delegates, but not the majority. With less Amys and Petes to take away votes, maybe Biden or Bloomberg actually beat Sanders. Or, maybe they don't. Who knows. But if you're a devoted democrat, or if you're a Trump-hater, or if you're both, Amy continuing to be in the race doesn't help your cause in the least. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    Bernie must be who Trump is talking about with his "do nothing Dem" statement.

    trouble he isnt a Dem......
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    F Me In The Brain said:

    Finally a post in this thread that I can get behind 100%. Put them down for two....in case they want seconds. 
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  • mrussel1
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    That's a great photo!  Give those kids some canes and see what happens.  

    What's the soup du jour?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    F Me In The Brain said:

    PRETTY BIRD
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?
    Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
    Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

    Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
    Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?


    You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

    You might want to remove that link.
    distract deflect divide

    tell me more about deadbeat dad Bernie's gangrape fantasies

    where are the medical records that were promised?
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