The Democratic Presidential Debates

CM189191

pjl44 said:

Most Bills : Qualification for President :: Most Wins : Qualification for Cy Young Award

politics != sports

treating politics like a winner take all scenario is how we got here in the first place

Spiritual_Chaos

AMY IS OUT

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1232769796644777986?s=20

You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

You might want to remove that link.

distract deflect divide

tell me more about deadbeat dad Bernie's gangrape fantasies

where are the medical records that were promised?

Why does Bloomberg tell women to kill their babies?

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

No clue. But what the hell, let her enjoy her final 48 hours. She made it further than I thought she would. Though I guess making it to Super Tuesday isn't all that far. But still, A for effort I guess. 

She has to be getting pressure to drop out. The whole consolidate moderates thing. Its gotta hurt all moderates watching her continue to split votes going into tomorrow. Take a deal like Pete (probably) did and go out on top. So what's the upside for her?

It's funny because my own political beliefs support Amy going as far as she could. She got on the ballots, she garnered some support, so she should take it as far as she can. That's how I believe politics should go. Even if this awful two-party system. 

But that's just me. Amy is, like many in the Democratic Party, of the belief that 1) Donald Trump is the second-coming of Hilter, and 2) Bernie Sanders cannot beat him in a general election. Well if that's the case, like you said, be like Pete. Get out of the way and let the voters who might have supported you choose between Biden and Bloomberg (or even Sanders, it's not fair to suggest that anyone that supports a moderate candidate now won't switch to Sanders after their candidate is gone). It would help avoid the situation that the Democrats dread where Bernie arrives at the convention with the plurality of delegates, but not the majority. With less Amys and Petes to take away votes, maybe Biden or Bloomberg actually beat Sanders. Or, maybe they don't. Who knows. But if you're a devoted democrat, or if you're a Trump-hater, or if you're both, Amy continuing to be in the race doesn't help your cause in the least. 

I'm actually a little torn on this.  I was a big supporter of clearing the field, but part of me thinks the multiple candidates is hurting Sanders more than Biden.  I think Bloomberg is banking on taking this to the convention regardless. 

Spiritual_Chaos

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

She's out

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/us/politics/amy-klobuchar-drops-out.html

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

AMY IS OUT

And she's endorsed Biden. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

AMY IS OUT

And she's endorsed Biden. 

Waiting for Pete to do it also (because he hasn't yet right?)

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1234551067662340096?s=20

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

AMY IS OUT

So its Bernie, Biden, Warren and Bloomberg.  WHo will drop next?  Guesses? 

Is the DNC bosses are doing what they can to get Bernie out of it?

Ledbetterman10

Well she did the right thing for the "team" if you're a democrat. Also, she'd probably be a good running-mate. Certainly for Biden (who's rally she's flying to to endorse him), but even Bernie (though I think Liz is working for that spot). Amy as Bernie's running mate could at least show that he's willing to negotiate with fellow Dems on all of his positions. I actually felt Hillary should have chose Bernie for the same reasons. "Sure we disagree, but we're on the same team. We're not slitting each other's throats like Trump did to Rubio/Cruz/Jeb/etc."

Spiritual_Chaos

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1232769796644777986?s=20

You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

You might want to remove that link.

Is the content untrue?

I've posted two videos on the topic in this very thread a few pages, pointing to it being a skewed view of the man's history.

If people would have watched them, that question of yours would have not had to been asked.

How many bills has Mayor "Kill your baby" Bloomberg passed?

given he was a mayor , i.e. executive branch, and not a legislator, I am going with none. He only signed or didnt sign legislation into law.....

I would expect he put forth ideas that the council took up.....

so whats your point?

My point is: talking about bills passed is as narrow as reducing a vote for someone else than Bernie as solely a vote on M4A. It is pointless.





And regarding him and bills:

https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/1169323599439597568?s=20

https://twitter.com/OFB2020/status/1170325343946694656?s=20

Seems to be a guy with character, and who doesn't throw staplers at people. What term did Pete steal from Obama for a speech.. "beacon of light" ? Maybe that is what he is.

Spiritual_Chaos

Bloomberg on the way out too?

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1234548650405134338?s=20

The Juggler

Time for Biden to rise back up in the polls now. So happy Pete and Amy are doing the right thing...

mcgruff10

Any/Pete 2028!

darwinstheory

Ugh

benjs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1232769796644777986?s=20

You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

You might want to remove that link.

Is the content untrue?

I've posted two videos on the topic in this very thread a few pages, pointing to it being a skewed view of the man's history.

If people would have watched them, that question of yours would have not had to been asked.

How many bills has Mayor "Kill your baby" Bloomberg passed?

There's a thought in business that the way to stand out and secure the attention of the people around you isn't actually to talk more (where people will start to perceive arrogance and ego and question the authenticity of what you're saying), but to actually talk less so that you are only spending energy to share if you have something worth sharing. If you'd stop with GIFs referencing 20-year-old video games on political topics, maybe you'd have enough credibility remaining that when you have something substantial to share, people give it a chance?

Spiritual_Chaos

The Juggler said:

Time for Biden to rise back up in the polls now. So happy Pete and Amy are doing the right thing...

The Sinister Six is forming

pjl44

I would love to see side-by-side results by state for early votes vs. 3/3 votes

Ledbetterman10

mcgruff10 said:

Any/Pete 2028!

Together as a presidential ticket? Or against each other on the WrestleMania 44 undercard?

hedonist

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

dignin said:

Can anyone tell me why Amy K. is still in it?

Because out of all the candidates, she is by far and away the most successful legislator
Sponsored or co-sponsored over 100 bills that have been passed

Can anyone tell me why Bernie S is still in it?
Specifically, how much successful legislation has he passed?

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1232769796644777986?s=20

You are posting things from a known racist and sexist. 

You might want to remove that link.

Is the content untrue?

I've posted two videos on the topic in this very thread a few pages, pointing to it being a skewed view of the man's history.

If people would have watched them, that question of yours would have not had to been asked.

How many bills has Mayor "Kill your baby" Bloomberg passed?

There's a thought in business that the way to stand out and secure the attention of the people around you isn't actually to talk more (where people will start to perceive arrogance and ego and question the authenticity of what you're saying), but to actually talk less so that you are only spending energy to share if you have something worth sharing. If you'd stop with GIFs referencing 20-year-old video games on political topics, maybe you'd have enough credibility remaining that when you have something substantial to share, people give it a chance?

Awesome timing

dignin

Thanks for the Amy responses. Guess it's all moot now that she's out. 

Seems like were heading toward a moderate/progressive showdown within the democratic power. A true battle for the soul of the party.