The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,398
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    So much angst about Iowa (justified, IMO) and New Hampshire (less so) shaping the race, but South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee since Jimmy Carter. It's hard for me to really care about who Democrats there think should be on the ticket this year.  

    Yes, many are indifferent about preexisting conditions and privatizing Medicare which will happen if trump wins. Surprising but true.
    What does "privatizing Medicare" mean? I've tried searching it and all I can find is that he plans to "expand" or "bolster" Medicare Advantage, which is kinda vague.
    https://www.medicare.gov/sign-up-change-plans/types-of-medicare-health-plans/medicare-advantage-plans

    With all due respect, I work in healthcare. I know what Medicare Advantage plans are. What I'm asking him is what is going to be different vs. today.
    more will be pushed to these plans.
    like my employer pushes hsa plans vs ppo. more up front cost borne by the consumer.

    with the massive proposed cuts to medicare in his latest budget, what does that tell you?
    How will people be "pushed" though? Medicare subsidizes MA plans. Someone enrolls with Medicare, continues to pay Medicare, and then has the choice to supplement Medicare (Medigap, MA, etc.). 90% of Medicare beneficiaries have some supplemental coverage. 30% have MA and that number grows every year. What are people afraid is going to happen?
    I suppose more out of pocket costs...

     
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  • mickeyrat
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    Rules for Medicare Advantage Plans

    Medicare pays a fixed amount for your care each month to the companies offering Medicare Advantage Plans. These companies must follow rules set by Medicare.

    Each Medicare Advantage Plan can charge different Out-of-pocket costs. They can also have different rules for how you get services, like:

    • Whether you need a Referral to see a specialist
    • If you have to go to doctors, facilities, or suppliers that belong to the plan for non-emergency or non-urgent care

    These rules can change each year.


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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,696
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    So much angst about Iowa (justified, IMO) and New Hampshire (less so) shaping the race, but South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee since Jimmy Carter. It's hard for me to really care about who Democrats there think should be on the ticket this year.  

    Yes, many are indifferent about preexisting conditions and privatizing Medicare which will happen if trump wins. Surprising but true.
    What does "privatizing Medicare" mean? I've tried searching it and all I can find is that he plans to "expand" or "bolster" Medicare Advantage, which is kinda vague.
    https://www.medicare.gov/sign-up-change-plans/types-of-medicare-health-plans/medicare-advantage-plans

    With all due respect, I work in healthcare. I know what Medicare Advantage plans are. What I'm asking him is what is going to be different vs. today.
    more will be pushed to these plans.
    like my employer pushes hsa plans vs ppo. more up front cost borne by the consumer.

    with the massive proposed cuts to medicare in his latest budget, what does that tell you?
    How will people be "pushed" though? Medicare subsidizes MA plans. Someone enrolls with Medicare, continues to pay Medicare, and then has the choice to supplement Medicare (Medigap, MA, etc.). 90% of Medicare beneficiaries have some supplemental coverage. 30% have MA and that number grows every year. What are people afraid is going to happen?
    I suppose more out of pocket costs...

     
    But you could worry about that in any environment. You know what led to an increase in out of pocket costs recently? The ACA. It reduced payments to MA plans. So if someone is concerned about less Medicare funding impacting MA out of pocket costs, you've been living that for several years. (Those reductions go away this year.)

    All in all I'm still not seeing what "privatization of Medicare" means beyond the current system.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    edited February 2020
    Lerxst1992 said:

    Unlike the two Socialist social liars. 


    Liars you say?



    Why does Biden lie all the time @mrussel1 ?

    https://player.vimeo.com/video/340549245


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680

    Look, Electability in a nutshell, folks!



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,977
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    Now when Bloomy is stealing Yang away from decency. boooh yang
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
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    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    that's a losing ticket if there ever was one
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,977
    CM189191 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    that's a losing ticket if there ever was one
    Let's be honest though.  Anyone with Sanders has you saying that.  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    that's a losing ticket if there ever was one
    Let's be honest though.  Anyone with Sanders has you saying that.  
    Because it is the truth.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignin
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    mcgruff10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    Agree.  I can see Sanders going after a Stacey Abrams.
    that's a losing ticket if there ever was one
    Let's be honest though.  Anyone with Sanders has you saying that.  
    Because it is the truth.  
    Just like we all thought Trump had no chance.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side. 
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  • pjl44
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side. 
    Online politics has broken a lot of brains 
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 
    What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

    Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.
    I bet many with a reputation would want to be the most favorable and beloved senators vp. 
    but enough about Biden

    I would be very surprised if any of the other candidates agreed to be bernie's vp


    we were all surprised at how the trump admin acted, and still acts, in support of him, at the sacrifice of their own souls and morals, to be a part of the admin. don't be surprised at anything when power is involved. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,137
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side. 
    LOL. everyone wants to be so quick in their comment, they fail to let their brains do their due diligence. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • JimmyV
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    If Bernie wins the nomination, any Democrat who refuses to help him win the White House will be helping Trump and the Republicans. Inadvertently or otherwise. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JimmyV said:
    If Bernie wins the nomination, any Democrat who refuses to help him win the White House will be helping Trump and the Republicans. Inadvertently or otherwise. 
    It’s not the Democrats Bernie needs to win. And if it’s not Bernie, what do all the Berniebrosises do? I know the answer and that’s a rub. Bernie’s not a 50/50 guy. Hell, he’s not even a dem.
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