If Heterosexualism Existed, We Wouldn’t Have To Make It Up
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oh wow, you sure set me up with that one! that sure is the same!ecdanc said:
Sorry, I didn't read your entire post. Just the words "he," "said," "I," "was[...]," and "bullshit." Did I miss the point?HughFreakingDillon said:
he said I was bullshit? huh?ecdanc said:
"he said I was bullshit"HughFreakingDillon said:
no, he didn't say that. he said "I read enough...", which is exactly what I did as well., I wasn't going to waste anymore time on this "woke" bullshit.ecdanc said:
Dear lord, he said he didn't read it. What is wrong with you?HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, telling a guy you know he didn't read enough because he doesn't agree with it. and then following it up with a personal comment.ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:
seriously, man, wtf are you doing here? you come here just to spread hate and negativity?
That's a weird response.
give it 3 months and you'll start wondering why all of a sudden no one will respond to any of your threads or posts.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Another deflection. Did you really consider that as baiting you?ecdanc said:
Not taking that bait. People already say I make too many insults.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who is the “intended” audience?ecdanc said:
I’m guessing you’re not the intended audience.Halifax2TheMax said:
I didn’t say it bothered me but that it bored me. “Funny” and “thought provoking” to you maybe.ecdanc said:
Jesus. It’s a funny, thought-provoking little post for Valentine’s Day. I thought I was supposed to be the over-sensitive one around here.Halifax2TheMax said:
And other than that, you didn’t offer up any commentary. Just a title of a thread with the thread title in the posted link. FFS.ecdanc said:
It’s the title of the article FFS.Halifax2TheMax said:
Except you didn’t do this. You made an eye catching title, some might say, provocative, and posted a link. No comments from you, not even a “what do you think?” I read the article and it reads like a philosophy grad student’s essay, maybe with a little too much time on their hands to concern themselves with runny makeup and hygiene routines on a tv show I never watched nor heard of. Is this the most pressing issue to write about? Or philosophize about? Plus, it was difficult to read as it jumped around a lot and made my eyes close and head snap.ecdanc said:
Dude, you felt the need to come respond to a post that is "hey, here's an interesting article, what do you think?" with "I didn't read it, but it's bullshit." What do you expect?brianlux said:ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:I call further bullshit. Knock it off with the personal attacks, buddy.Sorry. had to edit. My arthritis sometimes makes my fingers hit the wrong fucking keys.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So much for taking the time to offer a response and pose a semi-question.
That said, screw you motherfuckers!
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You don’t need to wait 3 months.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh wow, you sure set me up with that one! that sure is the same!ecdanc said:
Sorry, I didn't read your entire post. Just the words "he," "said," "I," "was[...]," and "bullshit." Did I miss the point?HughFreakingDillon said:
he said I was bullshit? huh?ecdanc said:
"he said I was bullshit"HughFreakingDillon said:
no, he didn't say that. he said "I read enough...", which is exactly what I did as well., I wasn't going to waste anymore time on this "woke" bullshit.ecdanc said:
Dear lord, he said he didn't read it. What is wrong with you?HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, telling a guy you know he didn't read enough because he doesn't agree with it. and then following it up with a personal comment.ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:
seriously, man, wtf are you doing here? you come here just to spread hate and negativity?
That's a weird response.
give it 3 months and you'll start wondering why all of a sudden no one will respond to any of your threads or posts.0 -
Nah. I just like to alternate between direct and oblique.Halifax2TheMax said:
Another deflection. Did you really consider that as baiting you?ecdanc said:
Not taking that bait. People already say I make too many insults.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who is the “intended” audience?ecdanc said:
I’m guessing you’re not the intended audience.Halifax2TheMax said:
I didn’t say it bothered me but that it bored me. “Funny” and “thought provoking” to you maybe.ecdanc said:
Jesus. It’s a funny, thought-provoking little post for Valentine’s Day. I thought I was supposed to be the over-sensitive one around here.Halifax2TheMax said:
And other than that, you didn’t offer up any commentary. Just a title of a thread with the thread title in the posted link. FFS.ecdanc said:
It’s the title of the article FFS.Halifax2TheMax said:
Except you didn’t do this. You made an eye catching title, some might say, provocative, and posted a link. No comments from you, not even a “what do you think?” I read the article and it reads like a philosophy grad student’s essay, maybe with a little too much time on their hands to concern themselves with runny makeup and hygiene routines on a tv show I never watched nor heard of. Is this the most pressing issue to write about? Or philosophize about? Plus, it was difficult to read as it jumped around a lot and made my eyes close and head snap.ecdanc said:
Dude, you felt the need to come respond to a post that is "hey, here's an interesting article, what do you think?" with "I didn't read it, but it's bullshit." What do you expect?brianlux said:ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:I call further bullshit. Knock it off with the personal attacks, buddy.Sorry. had to edit. My arthritis sometimes makes my fingers hit the wrong fucking keys.
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ok, so you're self aware enough to know that your posting style is abrasive enough to cause a drop off in attention from others, yet you continue this behaviour.ecdanc said:
You don’t need to wait 3 months.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh wow, you sure set me up with that one! that sure is the same!ecdanc said:
Sorry, I didn't read your entire post. Just the words "he," "said," "I," "was[...]," and "bullshit." Did I miss the point?HughFreakingDillon said:
he said I was bullshit? huh?ecdanc said:
"he said I was bullshit"HughFreakingDillon said:
no, he didn't say that. he said "I read enough...", which is exactly what I did as well., I wasn't going to waste anymore time on this "woke" bullshit.ecdanc said:
Dear lord, he said he didn't read it. What is wrong with you?HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, telling a guy you know he didn't read enough because he doesn't agree with it. and then following it up with a personal comment.ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:
seriously, man, wtf are you doing here? you come here just to spread hate and negativity?
That's a weird response.
give it 3 months and you'll start wondering why all of a sudden no one will respond to any of your threads or posts.
you don't find that strange?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Thanks for posting this. I'm still digesting, but here are my first thoughts.
1. Outside of academia, I suspect most will be confused right from the get-go, where heterosexuality is given a different definition compared to the colloquially used one (a man and a woman), with no explanation or acknowledgement to that effect. That atypical definition is continued all the way through to the end.
2. I'm all for introducing an embrace of otherness to combat and curb systemic injustices that exist today, but the tone used almost seems to err on the opposite direction - instilling guilt in those who have simply woken up being attracted to a certain type of person, and masking it as clever satire. It seems clear that she understands this portion of gender challenges well, but I think her mechanism of changing hearts and minds is deeply flawed.
3. I don't have cable, nor the desire to access a show called Love Island on the internet. I don't know whether the show is about any of the letters in LGBTQ+ getting with any other letters in LGBTQ+, or about what I've only ever heard referred to as heterosexual relationships (and what would you call those now, or is labelling itself an abhorrent act?). Which ever two individuals are trying to get with each other on a show like this, I don't see why I should care regardless of my sexual orientation
4. Traditional gender archetypes gave us critical skills that have led to the perpetuation of our society. Does every person born with female genitalia have a destiny of being deeply empathetic, and every person born with male genitalia have a destiny of being aggressive and assertive? No; but these are predispositions formed in natural ways. What do you suggest we do as a society to assure that we still have expertise in those realms, or do you feel that gender naturally skews people to favour one of those and that we would be more well-rounded in a world without the concept of a gender?
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You think I want you responding to me? THAT is strange.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so you're self aware enough to know that your posting style is abrasive enough to cause a drop off in attention from others, yet you continue this behaviour.ecdanc said:
You don’t need to wait 3 months.HughFreakingDillon said:
oh wow, you sure set me up with that one! that sure is the same!ecdanc said:
Sorry, I didn't read your entire post. Just the words "he," "said," "I," "was[...]," and "bullshit." Did I miss the point?HughFreakingDillon said:
he said I was bullshit? huh?ecdanc said:
"he said I was bullshit"HughFreakingDillon said:
no, he didn't say that. he said "I read enough...", which is exactly what I did as well., I wasn't going to waste anymore time on this "woke" bullshit.ecdanc said:
Dear lord, he said he didn't read it. What is wrong with you?HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, telling a guy you know he didn't read enough because he doesn't agree with it. and then following it up with a personal comment.ecdanc said:
No, no you didn't. You read enough to totally misunderstand something. I guess selling books isn't the same as reading them.brianlux said:
seriously, man, wtf are you doing here? you come here just to spread hate and negativity?
That's a weird response.
give it 3 months and you'll start wondering why all of a sudden no one will respond to any of your threads or posts.
you don't find that strange?
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Gotta drive a friend to the airport. I’ll respond a little laterbenjs said:Thanks for posting this. I'm still digesting, but here are my first thoughts.
1. Outside of academia, I suspect most will be confused right from the get-go, where heterosexuality is given a different definition compared to the colloquially used one (a man and a woman), with no explanation or acknowledgement to that effect. That atypical definition is continued all the way through to the end.
2. I'm all for introducing an embrace of otherness to combat and curb systemic injustices that exist today, but the tone used almost seems to err on the opposite direction - instilling guilt in those who have simply woken up being attracted to a certain type of person, and masking it as clever satire. It seems clear that she understands this portion of gender challenges well, but I think her mechanism of changing hearts and minds is deeply flawed.
3. I don't have cable, nor the desire to access a show called Love Island on the internet. I don't know whether the show is about any of the letters in LGBTQ+ getting with any other letters in LGBTQ+, or about what I've only ever heard referred to as heterosexual relationships (and what would you call those now, or is labelling itself an abhorrent act?). Which ever two individuals are trying to get with each other on a show like this, I don't see why I should care regardless of my sexual orientation
4. Traditional gender archetypes gave us critical skills that have led to the perpetuation of our society. Does every person born with female genitalia have a destiny of being deeply empathetic, and every person born with male genitalia have a destiny of being aggressive and assertive? No; but these are predispositions formed in natural ways. What do you suggest we do as a society to assure that we still have expertise in those realms, or do you feel that gender naturally skews people to favour one of those and that we would be more well-rounded in a world without the concept of a gender?0 -
Firsts, to all here: I apologize for responding like an asshole. I get mad at people who intentionally bate others. That is their choice. My choice is, I can choose to ignore the bating or be an asshole. I chose poorly. My bad.But the fact remains: I can't stand people who get their kicks bating others. Another fact: I did read some of the article. Another fact: to me it reads like clickbate bullshit. Another fact: I do sell books and I do read books. Lots of books. Some people knit and crochet. Cool.And the last and most important fact. The author of this thread and I will never see eye to eye. Our interacting is a waste of our time and the time of everyone else here. So here's they easy and logical solution: From now on, I will ignore every thread posted by the author of this one, and every one of his posts. Yeah, that could be seen as a cop out. But it's the best I can come up with. And just think of how much bullshit from both he and I will be eliminated from AMT!Adios, amigo!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Shut it down, everyone. I created this entire thread just to bait Brian. Now that I’ve been caught, I guess we’re done.brianlux said:Firsts, to all here: I apologize for responding like an asshole. I get mad at people who intentionally bate others. That is their choice. My choice is, I can choose to ignore the bating or be an asshole. I chose poorly. My bad.But the fact remains: I can't stand people who get their kicks bating others. Another fact: I did read some of the article. Another fact: to me it reads like clickbate bullshit. Another fact: I do sell books and I do read books. Lots of books. Some people knit and crochet. Cool.And the last and most important fact. The author of this thread and I will never see eye to eye. Our interacting is a waste of our time and the time of everyone else here. So here's they easy and logical solution: From now on, I will ignore every thread posted by the author of this one, and every one of his posts. Yeah, that could be seen as a cop out. But it's the best I can come up with. And just think of how much bullshit from both he and I will be eliminated from AMT!Adios, amigo!0 -
What a bizarre thread.
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Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Just sent him to Ignore, Brian.brianlux said:Firsts, to all here: I apologize for responding like an asshole. I get mad at people who intentionally bate others. That is their choice. My choice is, I can choose to ignore the bating or be an asshole. I chose poorly. My bad.But the fact remains: I can't stand people who get their kicks bating others. Another fact: I did read some of the article. Another fact: to me it reads like clickbate bullshit. Another fact: I do sell books and I do read books. Lots of books. Some people knit and crochet. Cool.And the last and most important fact. The author of this thread and I will never see eye to eye. Our interacting is a waste of our time and the time of everyone else here. So here's they easy and logical solution: From now on, I will ignore every thread posted by the author of this one, and every one of his posts. Yeah, that could be seen as a cop out. But it's the best I can come up with. And just think of how much bullshit from both he and I will be eliminated from AMT!Adios, amigo!
My setting is full already....a shame, lol, as I don't think it is a cop out.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
"here's a thought provoking article" is no where in the op. other than "full article posted below" theres no commentary from you presented......ecdanc said:AMT is a weird place. Here, in a thread that is literally just "here's a thought-provoking article," people feel the need to post about the article without reading it.
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ecdanc said:
Not familiar with AA, I see.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
Now you must come to believe that language is a power great than ourselves that can restore us to sanity.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
I get it. Reading is hard. Maybe stick to the threads that don't require it.F Me In The Brain said:
I wish they had more pictures in these threads. You are spot on with your assessment of me -- reading is very difficult.
You lost me at 'Now you must come to believe...'.being a member of said org. No where in the literature I've read several times over does it say "now you must come to believe"what the outline of the steps you'll find on posters in most meetings does it say you must. it says "we came to believe......"theres a few places where it does say must, but not as written by you.the entire program is based on suggestion a member is free to reject._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
The article is the commentary.mickeyrat said:
"here's a thought provoking article" is no where in the op. other than "full article posted below" theres no commentary from you presented......ecdanc said:AMT is a weird place. Here, in a thread that is literally just "here's a thought-provoking article," people feel the need to post about the article without reading it.0 -
A failed joke. Full respect to AA.mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:
Not familiar with AA, I see.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
Now you must come to believe that language is a power great than ourselves that can restore us to sanity.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
I get it. Reading is hard. Maybe stick to the threads that don't require it.F Me In The Brain said:
I wish they had more pictures in these threads. You are spot on with your assessment of me -- reading is very difficult.
You lost me at 'Now you must come to believe...'.being a member of said org. No where in the literature I've read several times over does it say "now you must come to believe"what the outline of the steps you'll find on posters in most meetings does it say you must. it says "we came to believe......"theres a few places where it does say must, but not as written by you.the entire program is based on suggestion a member is free to reject.0 -
ecdanc said:
A failed joke. Full respect to AA.mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:
Not familiar with AA, I see.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
Now you must come to believe that language is a power great than ourselves that can restore us to sanity.F Me In The Brain said:ecdanc said:
I get it. Reading is hard. Maybe stick to the threads that don't require it.F Me In The Brain said:
I wish they had more pictures in these threads. You are spot on with your assessment of me -- reading is very difficult.
You lost me at 'Now you must come to believe...'.being a member of said org. No where in the literature I've read several times over does it say "now you must come to believe"what the outline of the steps you'll find on posters in most meetings does it say you must. it says "we came to believe......"theres a few places where it does say must, but not as written by you.the entire program is based on suggestion a member is free to reject.thank you. a request if I may. there is enough misunderstanding and misinformation about what aa is, what it does and what it suggests out there. please becone educated enough about it to use accurate statements when speaking of it in whatever context in the future.I would appreciate it._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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