The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Who are you voting for @ecdanc or are you still holding out for a hero?Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
See how it all shakes out and consider the third party candidates, too. Worst case scenario, you don't have to check a box for President. There are usually some interesting ballot initiatives in Presidential election years amongst the slate of other races.cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
I would consider voting for Sanders. I would not vote for Trump, Biden, Warren, or Buttigieg. Who have I left out (that might actually be on the November ballot--I'm not registered as a Democrat, so I won't be involved in the primary process)?Spiritual_Chaos said:Who are you voting for @ecdanc or are you still holding out for a hero?0 -
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
Oh I am not voting for trumpSpiritual_Chaos said:
No, the point is -- if a man that has double digit rape accusations against him (one from a 13 year old), have no problems to in blackmailing a foreign nation with people in that country dying as a result and (still) wants to hang 5 kids because they are black (even after being found innocent) even is considered an option for you, then somethingcincybearcat said:
Yeah I know, I lose either way in different ways. That’s the point.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you are struggling on that issue, you have already lost.cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.
https://youtu.be/GdvYHgE_ols
It should not be able to be an option. I don't know how it could.
But for some reason people are falling over to Trump in here, one by one. Like an Agatha Christie novel.hippiemom = goodness0 -
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
cincybearcat said:
Oh I am not voting for trumpSpiritual_Chaos said:
No, the point is -- if a man that has double digit rape accusations against him (one from a 13 year old), have no problems to in blackmailing a foreign nation with people in that country dying as a result and (still) wants to hang 5 kids because they are black (even after being found innocent) even is considered an option for you, then somethingcincybearcat said:
Yeah I know, I lose either way in different ways. That’s the point.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you are struggling on that issue, you have already lost.cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.https://youtu.be/GdvYHgE_ols
It should not be able to be an option. I don't know how it could.
But for some reason people are falling over to Trump in here, one by one. Like an Agatha Christie novel.
Good!
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
As luck would have it, my ideology is the only true path to righteousnessmrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
What in the holy hell are you talking about? Like usually I can track your misunderstanding, but I literally have no idea what point you think you're responding to.mrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
You're being intentionally obtuse here. You've declared that I'm oblivious to my privilege based on the fact that I understand what Cincy means by no one represents his values. Then you go off on "forms of obliviousness in existence". What does that have to do with argument about the values/policies gap between Trump and Bernie? Nothing at all. So try to stay on point.ecdanc said:
What in the holy hell are you talking about? Like usually I can track your misunderstanding, but I literally have no idea what point you think you're responding to.mrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
That is very fortunate for you. And it makes it super easy to judge, knowing you're infallible in that judgment. Congratulations.pjl44 said:
As luck would have it, my ideology is the only true path to righteousnessmrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
I wish I thought you were being *intentionally* obtuse. I told you the statement I found absurd, but I'll clarify. An upper-middle-class white guy would have to have his head really far up his own ass to think that the two major US parties don't represent him. While lodging head squarely in his own ass, this upper-middle-class white guy manages to avoid seeing the large number of people who aren't represented by the two major parties. This neck-deep-in-butt-cheeks fella reeks of privilege because he mistakes his policy disagreements for not being "represented."mrussel1 said:
You're being intentionally obtuse here. You've declared that I'm oblivious to my privilege based on the fact that I understand what Cincy means by no one represents his values. Then you go off on "forms of obliviousness in existence". What does that have to do with argument about the values/policies gap between Trump and Bernie? Nothing at all. So try to stay on point.ecdanc said:
What in the holy hell are you talking about? Like usually I can track your misunderstanding, but I literally have no idea what point you think you're responding to.mrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
He didn't say the parties didn't represent his views, he's speaking of the individual candidates; Bernie and Trump. I think that was crystal clear in his post. I don't know how you didn't understand that distinction.ecdanc said:
I wish I thought you were being *intentionally* obtuse. I told you the statement I found absurd, but I'll clarify. An upper-middle-class white guy would have to have his head really far up his own ass to think that the two major US parties don't represent him. While lodging head squarely in his own ass, this upper-middle-class white guy manages to avoid seeing the large number of people who aren't represented by the two major parties. This neck-deep-in-butt-cheeks fella reeks of privilege because he mistakes his policy disagreements for not being "represented."mrussel1 said:
You're being intentionally obtuse here. You've declared that I'm oblivious to my privilege based on the fact that I understand what Cincy means by no one represents his values. Then you go off on "forms of obliviousness in existence". What does that have to do with argument about the values/policies gap between Trump and Bernie? Nothing at all. So try to stay on point.ecdanc said:
What in the holy hell are you talking about? Like usually I can track your misunderstanding, but I literally have no idea what point you think you're responding to.mrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
He literally said "not having a party that represent [sic] you." Ironically, in your effort to defend him (??) or maybe just to "win," you're actually undermining the point he made (such as it is). Funny enough, I think I'm being more generous with my reading of his post than you are!mrussel1 said:
He didn't say the parties didn't represent his views, he's speaking of the individual candidates; Bernie and Trump. I think that was crystal clear in his post. I don't know how you didn't understand that distinction.ecdanc said:
I wish I thought you were being *intentionally* obtuse. I told you the statement I found absurd, but I'll clarify. An upper-middle-class white guy would have to have his head really far up his own ass to think that the two major US parties don't represent him. While lodging head squarely in his own ass, this upper-middle-class white guy manages to avoid seeing the large number of people who aren't represented by the two major parties. This neck-deep-in-butt-cheeks fella reeks of privilege because he mistakes his policy disagreements for not being "represented."mrussel1 said:
You're being intentionally obtuse here. You've declared that I'm oblivious to my privilege based on the fact that I understand what Cincy means by no one represents his values. Then you go off on "forms of obliviousness in existence". What does that have to do with argument about the values/policies gap between Trump and Bernie? Nothing at all. So try to stay on point.ecdanc said:
What in the holy hell are you talking about? Like usually I can track your misunderstanding, but I literally have no idea what point you think you're responding to.mrussel1 said:
You're rendering the judgment based on the very data point of voting in the general election. My Lord, stay on point.ecdanc said:
What? What are you even saying? Do you actually mean to imply that the only forms of obliviousness in existence would necessarily lead one to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
How so? If I was oblivious, then why wouldn't I vote for Trump?ecdanc said:
I think it shows obliviousness to his privilege; and yours, it appears.mrussel1 said:
I think that shows the diversity of his perspective, that it isn't simply cultural or economic. Neither of old white guys represent what I believe either, regardless of how their policies affect me economically.ecdanc said:
To highlight the absurdity of him saying "man this sucks not having a party that represent [sic] you."mrussel1 said:
So what was the point of your question to Cincy?ecdanc said:
Yes, I am. And both parties represent my demographic (way more than I want them to). It would be absurd to say otherwise.mrussel1 said:
Aren't you? Median household income is 63k. Two PhD's in the family and all...ecdanc said:
Aren’t you an upper-middle-class white guy?cincybearcat said:As I watch the Dems falling apart and attacking each other... I keep struggling with what to do if it’s Trump v Bernie.... man this sucks not having a party that represent you.0 -
You using Bernies first name reveal you are all warming up to him
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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