The all-purpose heavy duty Climate Chaos thread (sprinkled with hope).

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Americans built in the desert because they can, Middle Eastern people live in the desert because they have.  Either move or build an air conditioned dome.  There are not many options.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    I'm glad he came around but the phrase that comes to mind is "no shit, Sherlock".
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    brianlux said:
    I'm glad he came around but the phrase that comes to mind is "no shit, Sherlock".
    pssst....brian.....be happy when people come around.....don't mock them......pssst.......
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    brianlux said:
    I'm glad he came around but the phrase that comes to mind is "no shit, Sherlock".
    pssst....brian.....be happy when people come around.....don't mock them......pssst.......
    Oh,  ahhh... ummm... I meant to say, "Good show, Shylock!"
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    Right on, Pearl Jam!

    I'm off today anyway but if I wasn't, I would not go to work.  But even that would be a weak commitment.  I'm both self-employed and help out my wife and her business partner at the Bookery.  So to those who truly did go on strike for the climate today, I salute you!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    2°C: Beyond the limit

    Radical warming in Siberia leaves millions on unstable ground



    This is a huge in-depth article (an excellent one), so I can't actually post it. Hopefully those who have access to WaPo will read it. (there were a few people mocking my statements about the forthcoming climate change migration.... Siberia is a good example of how it happens. It will become a bigger and bigger problem from right now, and sometime in the not-too-distant future those who mocked the idea will realize how oblivious they were).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592



    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    For those few and rare global warming deniers, more evidence has surfaced:


    Grass growing around Mount Everest as global heating intensifies


    "Shrubs and grasses are springing up around Mount Everest and across the Himalayas, one of the most rapidly heating regions of the planet."



    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
      Warm water discovered beneath Antarctica's 'doomsday' glacier, scientists say
    https://news.yahoo.com/warm-water-discovered-beneath-antarcticas-164951744.html

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mickeyrat said:
      Warm water discovered beneath Antarctica's 'doomsday' glacier, scientists say
    https://news.yahoo.com/warm-water-discovered-beneath-antarcticas-164951744.html


    "Florida sized block of ice."   Damn.  74,000 square miles. "A runaway collapse of the glacier would lead to a significant increase in sea levels of about two feet..."   Double damn.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 7,958
    Thought I'd ask this here since I'm getting roasted on The Porch:

    Is it unreasonable to ask why Ed, as someone who seems to be a climate change activist, would take a corporate gig with a private jet company?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
    Feb 2 and 3 Columbus Ohio. highs near or at 60...... Dead middle of winter. Same as Jan early.....
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  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,392
    edited February 2020
    I can only read temperature in Canadian, so I'm guessing that's warm? Just dumped snow here, trees are happy. 

    Overall, with the warming trend, glacier melt, sea level increases, climate migration expected, extreme weather and fires,  I'm still thinking its' not gonna get super crazy fun until the thermalhaline circulation of the ocean changes currents. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
    tish said:
    I can only read temperature in Canadian, so I'm guessing that's warm? Just dumped snow here, trees are happy. 

    Overall, with the warming trend, glacier melt, sea level increases, climate migration expected, extreme weather and fires,  I'm still thinking its' not gonna get super crazy fun until the thermalhaline circulation of the ocean changes currents. 
    roughly 15C.....

    typical or usual should be between -15 and 0C
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mickeyrat said:
    Feb 2 and 3 Columbus Ohio. highs near or at 60...... Dead middle of winter. Same as Jan early.....

    That's t-shirt weather in Columbus!

    We're having a few days of cool weather and a few nights just a wee bit below freezing, but last night was only our first frost of the year which, at 2,000 foot elevation (609.6 meters) in the Sierra Foothills, that's a late start for frost here.  And just three days ago, I was wearing a t-shirt at work. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Feb 2 and 3 Columbus Ohio. highs near or at 60...... Dead middle of winter. Same as Jan early.....

    That's t-shirt weather in Columbus!

    We're having a few days of cool weather and a few nights just a wee bit below freezing, but last night was only our first frost of the year which, at 2,000 foot elevation (609.6 meters) in the Sierra Foothills, that's a late start for frost here.  And just three days ago, I was wearing a t-shirt at work. 
    seems to be a trend where its like the seasons have shifted. sone years we've had regular winter weather in april and may
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Feb 2 and 3 Columbus Ohio. highs near or at 60...... Dead middle of winter. Same as Jan early.....

    That's t-shirt weather in Columbus!

    We're having a few days of cool weather and a few nights just a wee bit below freezing, but last night was only our first frost of the year which, at 2,000 foot elevation (609.6 meters) in the Sierra Foothills, that's a late start for frost here.  And just three days ago, I was wearing a t-shirt at work. 
    seems to be a trend where its like the seasons have shifted. sone years we've had regular winter weather in april and may

    My wife says the same thing.   Could be-- some of our most wintry weather over the last 5 years or so has come in March and April.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited February 2020
    pjl44 said:
    Thought I'd ask this here since I'm getting roasted on The Porch:

    Is it unreasonable to ask why Ed, as someone who seems to be a climate change activist, would take a corporate gig with a private jet company?
    Are you saying that the captain is telling us the boat is not safe and we're drowning, but it turns out he's out there making small waves on his own?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rhanishanerhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    On Sunday it was 46 degrees Celcius in NSW where I live. Today a much cooler 28 degrees Celcius 🤗 and we have rain coming again yay and my lawn is looking green rather than crunchy brown grass 🙌 The scorched earth near my home where bushfires raged through in November is slowly starting to sprout some green. Unfortunately where the inferno was hottest it's nothing but dirt and charcoal stick trees for many kilometres that may take years to come back and our fire was only 31,000 hectares in size relatively small in comparison to the major blazes that have impacted our beautiful country. Something very different about the last 2 years not so much the weather but more the changes on the ground. Yes it was dry and no rain for a long time but it has just felt strange to watch my neighbourhood change so quickly from what it seemed to be changing from underground. Definitely seemed like the water table underground had diminished greatly but suddenly? Huge 5cm cracks formed in the ground in the roadside drains all of a sudden. Gumtrees were shedding like I've never seen dropping mass fuel loads on the ground and everything was crunchy and tinder dry. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 7,958
    pjl44 said:
    Thought I'd ask this here since I'm getting roasted on The Porch:

    Is it unreasonable to ask why Ed, as someone who seems to be a climate change activist, would take a corporate gig with a private jet company?
    Are you saying that the captain is telling us the boat is not safe and we're drowning, but it turns out he's out there making small waves on his own?
    Yeah, I mean the answer seems to be "lol, you actually listen to that?" so I just tapped out
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mickeyrat said:

    That;'s great!  It look so much more hopeful than what was going on when this was written (2007):


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,409
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    mickeyrat said:
    Feb 2 and 3 Columbus Ohio. highs near or at 60...... Dead middle of winter. Same as Jan early.....
    but its in the 30’s Wednesday ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
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