Greta Thunberg

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 

    I don't see the problem:

    -Many Pearl Jam fans use natural gas (here at home we use propane- that's a natural gas, right?)
    -"Tend to vote Republican" means you are open to not always voting party line.  That sounds solid enough.
    -You're a practicing Catholic, fine.  I'm a practicing believer in The Mystery of the Universe.  Some others here are practicing atheists, practicing Pentecostals, practicing Buddhists, practicing nudists. 

    It's all good.  Relax.  No need for hit and runs posts.  Talk to your fellow PJ fans.  If anyone gives you shit or won't talk respectfully with you, just move on.  Others of us here will engage respectfully with you and hopefully will get the same in return.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473
    edited January 2020
    j1kotwic said:
     How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? 
    Ignorance maybe?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    So I do care a great deal about the environment. I'm not convinced that climate change is mostly man-made considering the billions and billions of years that the planet has been here. ( call me a denier fine)
    For the sake of argument let's just say it is all man made okay. Some countries go entirely unregulated, they are the ones that should be hammered with Hyper regulation and massive penalties for doing absolutely nothing to control emissions.  The United States regulatory job killing burden at one time was 
     2 trillion dollars, that's larger than some countries entire economy.
    Most successful industrialized nations do everything they can to keep up with the latest technology to stay up-to-date on the latest clean Technologies and improve their facilities as often as they can.  Vehicles are much more efficient now than they were 30 years ago.  I don't know if (electric) is the answer because you need to charge the battery.  It takes electricity to charge the battery and you've got to produce the electricity somewhere.  I'm all for Batteries if they can make them strong enough to do the job.  But right now how are you going to move an 80,000 lb truck like the one I drive with battery, wind or solar power?  How are you going to move a train that way? They have nuclear powered aircraft carriers that can go 20+ years without needing to dock anywhere. So nuclear power should be looked into a lot more.   Planes Trains and Automobiles have all improved greatly in the last 30 years imagine another 30 more years of Technology and improvements
    I'm 42 now, I just remember when I was a kid, riding in the seat next to my mom,  when a dump truck, or semi use to take off from a stop light, especially in those low gears, they would just billow out black smoke, buuuurp, shift buuuuuuuuurp, shift, buuuuuuuuuuurp  that black shit would hang in the air, around the trees and stink, and slowly sink downward or blow away on the Wind.  Nowadays look around you trucks are burning pretty clean.   cleaner-burning diesel engines and emission control devices on the trucks called DEF ( diesel exhaust fluid) the exhaust system has  screens in them  that catche a lot of s*** and the DEF system periodically incinerates the crud off the screen while you're driving.  And what I see coming out of smoke stacks nowadays is transparent emissions not opaque like they used to be.  And that's a good thing. right? Factories aren't belching out black smoke anymore.  If they have any smoke stacks nowadays it's usually Steam not black opaque smoke shit coming out.
    We now have a state-of-the-art water filtration facilities.  Water that comes out of a current Metropolitan sewage district is cleaner than the water that comes out of the ground.  It's amazing.  But I hear people saying people are dying left and right.  And we've only got 13 years left befoure WHAT??  Who is driving all the panic ? where is this Panic coming from????  I believe that is a lie to force government control of the masses.  I don't hear much about the hole in the ozone anymore, I haven't heard anything about bird flu lately there's always something causing panic panic panic
    And we're all going to DIE if we don't act now !!!  It is Now or never dammit!!  And you're all guilty as hell!! Shame on us all four living shame on us for breathing shame on us eating and excreting and buying things like air conditioners and heaters.  Furnaces and air conditioners keep millions and millions of people alive.
    have you ever noticed this?  We are guilty for using the things that Keep Us Alive??
    The we are all guilty, and we are all doomed in 13 years is a gargantuan lie.   The people that promote all the guilt and fear don't believe their lies or they wouldn't be buying 15 million dollar ocean front property Estates.
    We should always be persuing cleaner water air & less emissions Etc.  That's  our duty.  
    But I don't agree with the panic!
    When most industrialized nations are working towards cleaning it up.  Not ignoring the problem but taking significant portions of  profits and investing it back into cleaner technology...
    Why all the panic?  Because a few chunks of falling ice got caught on camera The BBC NIGHTLY NEWS cast runs stories and videos of falling ice every night. . We're all doomed !!!They seek to create panic and chaos..  They've done a great job.
    I feel really bad for Greta Thunberg, I do..  She's a nice girl & clearly an angry girl.  Some entity (The Left) has convinced her that we're all going to die very soon.  That's a lie. And they chose a 16 year old girl to be their spokesperson.
    I feel bad for her because She is being used like a puppet by the Left to advance what I believe is a false sense of panic to force world government control on every man woman and child, And everything in between.
    The Global Left has convinced many good-hearted liberals that conservatives are the enemy.  That's another huge lie by the Globalist Left.  The Global Left creates all the divisive labels, and intolerance, not Liberals.

    It's hard to describe but it's worth the effort.

    Liberals and conservatives throughout the generations have always respectfully agreed to disagree, policy and politics, but at the end of the day over the weekend the two sides have always been able to put politics aside and go play golf.
    So (THE LEFT is an entity & apparatus)
    that HATES IT, when a
    Liberal and a Conservative go out together over the weekend, put their differences aside and have a good time.
    ( attend a ball game together, play golf together, attend the concert together Etc)
    I am convinced The left is anti togetherness.  They want us to hate each other and dump beer down the neck of the person next to you with whom you differ with at the ballgame.
    I believe that is what's going on.  The Left wants the two sides to hate each other permanently.   Drive a wedge right down the middle.  Even between family members, make the sister hate the brother.  Make the daughter hate her father.  That's what the Left wants.
    Conservatives and liberals can get along just fine.  The Left seeks to drive the wedge between and destroy us all.  That is the bottom line and that takes a lot of time to ponder.
    I'm telling you again my fellow liberal friends, conservatives are not by default your enemy.  The LEFT is. 


    You might want to read Marx (and others) re: class solidarity. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    j1kotwic said:
     How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? 
    Ignorance maybe?
    Bingo!
  • j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    Run for the hills and spend your free time on other subjects on this pay site.  Make no mistake about it, YOU are the ENEMY on here after reading how you describe yourself.    It’s not called ALL Accepting Trip for a reason..... But if you do play on this thread, do it while taking your mourning glory and pay attention to Brian, he is the most reasonable person on here from what I have noticed.   God Bless 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473
    edited January 2020
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    Run for the hills and spend your free time on other subjects on this pay site.  Make no mistake about it, YOU are the ENEMY on here after reading how you describe yourself.    It’s not called ALL Accepting Trip for a reason..... But if you do play on this thread, do it while taking your mourning glory and pay attention to Brian, he is the most reasonable person on here from what I have noticed.   God Bless 
    Aren't you the lady who attacked Greta and her mom labeling them terrorists without knowing anything about what you were talking about? 

    And then never owned up to not knowing anything but instead....


    .... ran for the hills?
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    Run for the hills and spend your free time on other subjects on this pay site.  Make no mistake about it, YOU are the ENEMY on here after reading how you describe yourself.    It’s not called ALL Accepting Trip for a reason..... But if you do play on this thread, do it while taking your mourning glory and pay attention to Brian, he is the most reasonable person on here from what I have noticed.   God Bless 

    Can I run along side you in the hills so we can talk?  I'm not your enemy and I'm sorry you see others here as your enemy.  The way I see it, if Pearl Jam fans can't be civil with each other, we're in deep shit.  This is where coming together and being decent with each other can happen.  We may not agree, but if we snipe rather than talk, we're wasting our time.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    the only enemies of anyone here are the assholes. no one cares about your political or spiritual connections. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    the only enemies of anyone here are the assholes. no one cares about your political or spiritual connections. 
    I do 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    We probably would do well to talk about Greta Thunberg and global warming here since that is what this thread is about.  Otherwise, it gets shut down and what's the point of that?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • j1kotwic
    j1kotwic Posts: 168
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    Run for the hills and spend your free time on other subjects on this pay site.  Make no mistake about it, YOU are the ENEMY on here after reading how you describe yourself.    It’s not called ALL Accepting Trip for a reason..... But if you do play on this thread, do it while taking your mourning glory and pay attention to Brian, he is the most reasonable person on here from what I have noticed.   God Bless 
    Finally! Someone that knows exactly how I feel when I read through AMT. Still working on my ignorance problem. It will take a while.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626
    j1kotwic said:
    j1kotwic said:
    After reading through here (this particular thread and any other thread on AMT), I always wonder how it's possible that I am a pearl jam fan, work in natural gas industry, tend to vote Republican, practicing Catholic, etc. How can I be both a pearl jam fan and all these other things? Its like I am the embodiment of everything thing that sucks. Big gulp huh... welp, see ya later. 
    Run for the hills and spend your free time on other subjects on this pay site.  Make no mistake about it, YOU are the ENEMY on here after reading how you describe yourself.    It’s not called ALL Accepting Trip for a reason..... But if you do play on this thread, do it while taking your mourning glory and pay attention to Brian, he is the most reasonable person on here from what I have noticed.   God Bless 
    Finally! Someone that knows exactly how I feel when I read through AMT. Still working on my ignorance problem. It will take a while.
    What is your feelings? Fear of a high school girl pointing out a global crisis lol you both are snowflakes..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mickeyrat
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mickeyrat said:
    when does the left get to start mocking and dismissing her views based on age and appearance only?
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited February 2020
    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    So very nice that she wanted to do it. :) Spreading the word about the consequences of inaction can only help us, is how I feel about it. 


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    Kat said:
    So very nice that she wanted to do it. :) Spreading the word about the consequences of inaction can only help us, is how I feel about it. 


    i agree. i am glad she got the chance to be a part of it. 

    everybody better get used to her. at 17 she will probably be in the public eye for at least another 50 years.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Kat said:
    So very nice that she wanted to do it. :) Spreading the word about the consequences of inaction can only help us, is how I feel about it. 



    I love the video, seeing Greta in it, the song.  First PJ song in some time that really gets to me in such a  good way.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni