Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • rw160510
    rw160510 Posts: 1,078
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Back in the day, some might have said that a lawsuit against Ticketmaster is overreacting and/or pointless, which it turned out to be. The point is that Pearl Jam stood up for what they believed in and tried to make the rich and powerful accountable for their actions. I know these are 2 completely different situations but in the end, the rich and powerful need to be held accountable. Why wouldn't they just address this head on instead of playing these games? We will probably never know.
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    The Better Business Bureau won't touch the complaint because it's over 12 months old.
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    rw160510 said:
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
    Yeah, but my point is that it isn't just PJ dealing with delays. :weary:
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    JB16057 said:
    The Better Business Bureau won't touch the complaint because it's over 12 months old.
    Huh. Who do we complain to about them?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    BennyLaRue said:
    JB16057 said:
    The Better Business Bureau won't touch the complaint because it's over 12 months old.
    Huh. Who do we complain to about them?
    I guess that will be my follow up question to Eddie and Stone.
  • jimnelsen
    jimnelsen Posts: 75
    Well, what about the deep magazines. This complaint, is not 12months old?
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,015
    BennyLaRue said:
    JB16057 said:
    The Better Business Bureau won't touch the complaint because it's over 12 months old.
    Huh. Who do we complain to about them?

    lol
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,883
    rw160510 said:
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
    A month or so?
    we don’t have the 2017 single.
    I would give them all of 2017 and maybe a month or 2 after before I call it late.
    Its 2020. It’s 2 years late.
  • rw160510
    rw160510 Posts: 1,078
    mace1229 said:
    rw160510 said:
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
    A month or so?
    we don’t have the 2017 single.
    I would give them all of 2017 and maybe a month or 2 after before I call it late.
    Its 2020. It’s 2 years late.
    Sorry I've just read my post back and see how ambiguous it was. What I meant was the national are only a month or so late at this point and it sounds like they have a plan in place. It is ridiculous that we are still waiting for the 17/18 10c singles in 2020. I've pretty much given up hop hope they  will ever materialise

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    mace1229 said:
    rw160510 said:
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
    A month or so?
    we don’t have the 2017 single.
    I would give them all of 2017 and maybe a month or 2 after before I call it late.
    Its 2020. It’s 2 years late.

    In 2017 the labels and sleeves were all misprinted "2027".   If we'd all just be patient another 7 years we should see something happening.
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  • rw160510
    rw160510 Posts: 1,078
    deadendp said:
    rw160510 said:
    deadendp said:

    Regarding pressing delays, we have one going on with The National fanclub vinyl, too..
    Yeah but they aren't 3 years late, just a month or so and they have actually communicated what is going on.
    Yeah, but my point is that it isn't just PJ dealing with delays. :weary:
    Sorry I misunderstood your point. I totally agree with you.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,812
    JB16057 said:
    BennyLaRue said:
    on2legs said:
    Thank you.  It feels calmer in here already.
    Hope it's worth the risk.

    If anything happens to me, JC16057, you can have my Christmas singles 2013-2018 (when I get them).
    That's not what this is about. They can deliver the singles in 10 years for all I care. I am only asking for communication. We deserve that at a bare minimum.
    So if the delay isn’t the issue, is your complaint only because of the lack of communication? Is there anything in the terms and conditions stating that 10C would commit to regular communication? Not trying to stir shit up, just genuinely curious
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    goldrush said:
    JB16057 said:
    BennyLaRue said:
    on2legs said:
    Thank you.  It feels calmer in here already.
    Hope it's worth the risk.

    If anything happens to me, JC16057, you can have my Christmas singles 2013-2018 (when I get them).
    That's not what this is about. They can deliver the singles in 10 years for all I care. I am only asking for communication. We deserve that at a bare minimum.
    So if the delay isn’t the issue, is your complaint only because of the lack of communication? Is there anything in the terms and conditions stating that 10C would commit to regular communication? Not trying to stir shit up, just genuinely curious
    I understand that shit happens. We don't know what has been going on with Pearl Jam for the last few years. We know they've been through some rough stuff but everyone goes through stuff. We still have obligations that we need to take care of. To answer your second question, I don't think there are terms and conditions but legally I believe they are supposed to communicate what is going on after such a long delay and others believe this to be true as well. These guys are all millionaires that don't have day jobs because we the fans have supported them. I'm sorry but I don't feel bad for rich people. This is another example of the rich shitting on the poor in my eyes. It's bad enough that there has been such a long delay but the lack of communication is pathetic. It's almost like they just don't care.

    The last response we got was not genuine. The only time Pearl Jam contacts the members is to sell us more stuff. Why can't they put a little note in each monthly email stating that they know they are behind and are actively working on it? They can announce Vault 9, MTV Unplugged, the new album and a new tour yet they aren't announcing anything regarding these items which we paid for years ago. Every year that goes by they are digging a bigger hole for themselves. How are they going to rectify that they owe us 3 DEEP Magazines? Some have already paid for the 4th DEEP Magazine in 2020.

    My issues are more with how this has been handled than the actual delay. I couldn't treat my fans or my customers like this because I would be out of business if I did but I'm not rich and powerful.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    JB16057 said:
    goldrush said:
    JB16057 said:
    BennyLaRue said:
    on2legs said:
    Thank you.  It feels calmer in here already.
    Hope it's worth the risk.

    If anything happens to me, JC16057, you can have my Christmas singles 2013-2018 (when I get them).
    That's not what this is about. They can deliver the singles in 10 years for all I care. I am only asking for communication. We deserve that at a bare minimum.
    So if the delay isn’t the issue, is your complaint only because of the lack of communication? Is there anything in the terms and conditions stating that 10C would commit to regular communication? Not trying to stir shit up, just genuinely curious
    I understand that shit happens. We don't know what has been going on with Pearl Jam for the last few years. We know they've been through some rough stuff but everyone goes through stuff. We still have obligations that we need to take care of. To answer your second question, I don't think there are terms and conditions but legally I believe they are supposed to communicate what is going on after such a long delay and others believe this to be true as well. These guys are all millionaires that don't have day jobs because we the fans have supported them. I'm sorry but I don't feel bad for rich people. This is another example of the rich shitting on the poor in my eyes. It's bad enough that there has been such a long delay but the lack of communication is pathetic. It's almost like they just don't care.

    The last response we got was not genuine. The only time Pearl Jam contacts the members is to sell us more stuff. Why can't they put a little note in each monthly email stating that they know they are behind and are actively working on it? They can announce Vault 9, MTV Unplugged, the new album and a new tour yet they aren't announcing anything regarding these items which we paid for years ago. Every year that goes by they are digging a bigger hole for themselves. How are they going to rectify that they owe us 3 DEEP Magazines? Some have already paid for the 4th DEEP Magazine in 2020.

    My issues are more with how this has been handled than the actual delay. I couldn't treat my fans or my customers like this because I would be out of business if I did but I'm not rich and powerful.
    What is your end game here?  10c stated in Sept newsletter they would ship when ready.  Do you just want them to keep saying that every month that passes?  
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Since September they've announced hard dates for Vault 9, MTV Unplugged and a new album all on vinyl records. The only excuse we've gotten from the Ten Club on the current delay is "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers."

    Magically, they know exactly how long it takes to make a vinyl record when they are selling us new stuff. This tells me that they are not being honest with us.

    My end game is to keep applying pressure. We wouldn't have ANY information if I hadn't put pressure on them back in August and September. This is obviously not a concern to them. It's just another example of rich people doing whatever they want because they have the power and can. Is better and honest communication really too much to ask? It's been 4 months since the last announcement.

    I have no problem with people that don't care about the delay. Why do you and others make such a big deal about something I care about? There are plenty of other threads that you can comment on but you keep coming back here only to give me shit. I'm not trying to pressure you into feeling how I feel. By now you know what this thread is about. If you don't like it, stay away or how about you make your own thread about how you don't care about the delay?
  • molecule
    molecule Posts: 625
    Just a thought. Maybe they decided to wait for the new album and use tracks that didn't make the cut for the last 10c singles. Announce and send out after the album releases.
    🤙
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,748
    molecule said:
    Just a thought. Maybe they decided to wait for the new album and use tracks that didn't make the cut for the last 10c singles. Announce and send out after the album releases.
    i had the exact thought. 
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