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Pearl Jam = a band that does a 12-show NA "tour" to promote an album that took half a decade to produce. This is how this happens. Plain and simple. They love their fans so much they're willing to play 12 shows for us; they love their music so much they get out one album out since what? 2013? I honestly don't know what the band thinks or knows about the mayhem that ensues over the tickets, but for the fan club to send an email suggesting that everyone who wants to go will be able to go because there's so many more seats out there is just ingenuous. My inference is that they partnered with TicketMaster because even the fan club management doesn't want to deal with it anymore. In doing so, they're making it even more difficult for fan club members who got shut out of the lottery to get tickets. The verified sale, the exchange -- whatever. There may or may not be fewer scalpers, that's yet to be seen, but people who never scalped but worked with other fans on these boards to unload extras and help each other out are now at the mercy of a TicketMaster log-in to get Pearl Jam tickets. Let that sink in. It says everything about where we are. I can't wait until Shit Show Part 2 starts.
I hit 50% on my two choices; didn't get #1 (Baltimore) within driving distance to my home. I picked Denver as #2 because of all the places on the "tour" I would want to vacation for a week, that's the only place I wanted to go. The fact that a PJ concert is part of my vacation is kind of secondary at this point. I'm more excited to see Colorado than Pearl Jam. It'll probably be a two hour show with an opening act I've never heard of, and a bunch of songs I won't know and maybe will need to warm up to, as I have had to warm up to the songs on the last two albums. By the time Denver rolls around, it's likely Ed's voice will be shot or he will be injured, so there are those "odds" that have come into play over the past few tours. Let's gamble on whether he gets through the tour without having to see a doctor.
My two cents, my morning grumble, not trying to be dickish (I don't have a dick), but that's the way I see it. I got lucky with an upcoming Spring Break trip to Denver where PJ is part of it on a second choice pick in a lottery that is a lottery to promote an album whose cover art is cool and whose mission seems to be expedient but the title of the first single is rather cheezy. Dance of the Clairvoyants? Come on. What a cliche. I hope the song is better than the title. I will wait to buy this album until after I hear the songs, and I've never said that about Pearl Jam before.
Good luck everybody. I know everyone has a story. This is mine.
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Meh, the northeasterners will complain they're getting screwed regardless.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I wish we could just go back to the old days where you picked one show per your and you got two tickets or one, to that show. It could never happen since there are way too many fans in the northeast and it would screw them, but I miss those days.josevolution said:How about if they choose to release schedule of tour and then do separate lottery for each show and we would have to enter individual picks for every show we wanted to attend , no more priority ...
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Ha! As a former one, I can attest to thatecdanc said:
Meh, the northeasterners will complain they're getting screwed regardless.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I wish we could just go back to the old days where you picked one show per your and you got two tickets or one, to that show. It could never happen since there are way too many fans in the northeast and it would screw them, but I miss those days.josevolution said:How about if they choose to release schedule of tour and then do separate lottery for each show and we would have to enter individual picks for every show we wanted to attend , no more priority ... I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Entitled much?what dreams said:Pearl Jam = a band that does a 12-show NA "tour" to promote an album that took half a decade to produce. This is how this happens. Plain and simple. They love their fans so much they're willing to play 12 shows for us; they love their music so much they get out one album out since what? 2013? I honestly don't know what the band thinks or knows about the mayhem that ensues over the tickets, but for the fan club to send an email suggesting that everyone who wants to go will be able to go because there's so many more seats out there is just ingenuous. My inference is that they partnered with TicketMaster because even the fan club management doesn't want to deal with it anymore. In doing so, they're making it even more difficult for fan club members who got shut out of the lottery to get tickets. The verified sale, the exchange -- whatever. There may or may not be fewer scalpers, that's yet to be seen, but people who never scalped but worked with other fans on these boards to unload extras and help each other out are now at the mercy of a TicketMaster log-in to get Pearl Jam tickets. Let that sink in. It says everything about where we are. I can't wait until Shit Show Part 2 starts.
I hit 50% on my two choices; didn't get #1 (Baltimore) within driving distance to my home. I picked Denver as #2 because of all the places on the "tour" I would want to vacation for a week, that's the only place I wanted to go. The fact that a PJ concert is part of my vacation is kind of secondary at this point. I'm more excited to see Colorado than Pearl Jam. It'll probably be a two hour show with an opening act I've never heard of, and a bunch of songs I won't know and maybe will need to warm up to, as I have had to warm up to the songs on the last two albums. By the time Denver rolls around, it's likely Ed's voice will be shot or he will be injured, so there are those "odds" that have come into play over the past few tours. Let's gamble on whether he gets through the tour without having to see a doctor.
My two cents, my morning grumble, not trying to be dickish (I don't have a dick), but that's the way I see it. I got lucky with an upcoming Spring Break trip to Denver where PJ is part of it on a second choice pick in a lottery that is a lottery to promote an album whose cover art is cool and whose mission seems to be expedient but the title of the first single is rather cheezy. Dance of the Clairvoyants? Come on. What a cliche. I hope the song is better than the title. I will wait to buy this album until after I hear the songs, and I've never said that about Pearl Jam before.
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I feel awkward reading these boards where fans that have been on 10c for 10+ years didn't score tickets for this tour but I just finally joined 10c this month and scored tix on the most highly demanded show on the tour. I feel like if I say how excited I am, I'm going to be hunted down.
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Where?ecdanc said:
Yes.Banjo said:I've read on these forums that they drew everyone with a #1 priority first then moved on to #2 priority for same show, etc. Was that (or whatever method they used) ever stated by 10c anywhere? I have a guess as to how it may have gone (or maybe a suggestion for future drawings) but if its already been contradicted, I'll keep it to myself0 -
Sorry to keep replying to your comments - but again, this is exactly what has happened to me . There cannot be anything wrong with my submission because I have had confirmation of my No 1 Priority for Oakland Show 2. My credit card shows a pending charge of the $246 as well. My No 2 Priority was for Oakland Show 1 and I have had absolutely zero emails on it. No rejection and no confirmation. I submitted Best Available for both. No other selections, just the two Oakland shows. It is a bit annoying as wanting to come from the UK for just the two shows and I did not register for the Verified sale as with the odds and the announcement I foolishly felt confident I'd get in with BA. Still hoping to see it turn out ok in the end...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, not me. I only put 1 order in and never even went back into the TM site to check odds for fear of any complication. One login, one entrance with two shows, one confirmation and ghosted on the other.mace1229 said:
My theory is, and many have admitted to this, they deleted their picks by adding new sections. So no confirmation or denial email was needed since they technically withdrew from the lottery.ecdanc said:
Any theories on the "haven't heard" issue? I know there were several reports, especially with the 2-show cities.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well if it happens to me (I haven’t heard yet on my second pick (oak 2 BA), I’m an example of it happening. Want a screenshot?chukdotcom said:
The user error is that that never actually happened. They probably never ordered their choices. No one is getting tickets with 3rd picks over someone with the same first pick. Period. They may THINK they are because they can't follow directions.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I’ve seen lots of instances of people who had both BA first and second choice lose out to folks who had GA or BA or RES as a third or lower pick. They usually won their first pick but not their second. Don’t think user error is involved in any of themchukdotcom said:
Because almost all of the issues have been explained as user error.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Why are so many folks assuming it must be “user error” with all the issues that have happened? How difficult was this that it must be the person’s fault? All you had to do was pick shows!
People that didn't have matching info with Ticketmaster
People that didn't realize they had to arrange the order after selecting their picks
People that didn't understand the difference between selecting GA vs BA
The only legit error I have seen is the incorrect denial emails.
I’m not eliminating the possibility of TM error, but the amount of user error involved has proven to be very high. People flat out didn’t read the directions. I saw several cases where people uploaded their entry emails as proof they selected a show as priority 1 when all it did was show they really added new shows and deleted old ones without realizing it. That is why they never heard back because they didn’t enter.
Also I’ve seen several people not know you had to arrange priority at the end, not while you selected. So shows people thought were priority 1 was maybe 3 or 4. That wouldn’t explain a no response, but I am guessing this is the case for anyone who won GA beyond first pick.
The few who got shut out completely I am guessing had incorrect info or something that invalidated their entry (didn’t include their 10c email when asked for it)0 -
I think you might be right, under the Baltimore ticket page on ticketmaster there is an option that starts in 11 days that says the following -buck502000 said:
I’d be willing to bet, 10C had to concede to TM in some fashion.....chukdotcom said:
I don't even think that will be an option. This fan to fan resale will be extremely interesting. Not being able to adjust pricing is going to make this a curious situation.buck502000 said:I guess I’ll pay 500 for official platinum Ticketmaster tickets to Baltimore- oh well, it’s just $$$😔
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I have a five digit number and my message to you is enjoy the show. 😀rockyroc17 said:I feel awkward reading these boards where fans that have been on 10c for 10+ years didn't score tickets for this tour but I just finally joined 10c this month and scored tix on the most highly demanded show on the tour. I feel like if I say how excited I am, I'm going to be hunted down.0 -
Be excited! You won the lottery!rockyroc17 said:I feel awkward reading these boards where fans that have been on 10c for 10+ years didn't score tickets for this tour but I just finally joined 10c this month and scored tix on the most highly demanded show on the tour. I feel like if I say how excited I am, I'm going to be hunted down.
The complaining happens every year with the lottery/tours. It happened when 10C ran the lottery. It happened with the system before the lottery. It happened when we sent in the postcards. Complaining and disappointment are just part of the system (an imperfect one), but it's really magnified on the boards. PJ fans in person are great and will be thrilled for you to have tickets and be at the show. If you go to any Wishlist preshow events, you'll meet some nice people who are excited for you to get to see a show and share in your love of music.0 -
Don't feel bad about it. There's no reason for new fans to join the club if they ran it the way those people want. Congrats on the win.rockyroc17 said:I feel awkward reading these boards where fans that have been on 10c for 10+ years didn't score tickets for this tour but I just finally joined 10c this month and scored tix on the most highly demanded show on the tour. I feel like if I say how excited I am, I'm going to be hunted down.0 -
LOL, I just checked in on the sold prices on StubHub for the MSG show.
Someone paid $2,500 each before fees for 4 tickets in Sec 108.
That's like $13k for 4 tickets to a rock show.
It's ludicrous how much money there is in NYC.'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'0 -
It looks like there have been roughly 100 total tickets sold so far on StubHub.
The average price....$991.54....again, before fees.
Incredible.
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I still don't understand why I was denied tickets to Denver (#2 priority, BA seat selection) and other members secured tickets to Denver when they had the show as their #3 and #4 priority and also chose BA.
That just does not make sense to me.The less you know, the more you believe.0 -
We used to be protected with having to show up at willcall and not know where our seats are. Now anyone from anywhere in the world can put in for MSG tickets in the lotto and sell them on Stubhub. That market is fucked even more so the next show now that this new system is out imo.Saltzy23 said:LOL, I just checked in on the sold prices on StubHub for the MSG show.
Someone paid $2,500 each before fees for 4 tickets in Sec 108.
That's like $13k for 4 tickets to a rock show.
It's ludicrous how much money there is in NYC.0 -
Was st. Louis actually 99%? I dont understand how a lot of us could be shut out of shows that were 99%. There was no user error on my end, bc I scored for my first priority. I had BA picked for st. Louis which was my 3rd priority and did not get reserved tickets. The only thing i can think of was that the ending odds were not accurately shown at the time the lottery closed.Any thoughts?0
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This is why I asked where it states they filled 1st priority requests for a venue then started pulling 2nd priority requests for that venus and so on. I don't recall ever seeing it actually said by 10c and your situation indicates that that isn't really their method.Jammin909 said:I still don't understand why I was denied tickets to Denver (#2 priority, BA seat selection) and other members secured tickets to Denver when they had the show as their #3 and #4 priority and also chose BA.
That just does not make sense to me.0 -
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Canadians follow instructions better?Weston1283 said:Doesn’t it seem funny as well that the first 2 days seemed to go smoothly?
And that the Nashville and St. Louis drawings yesterday seemed to spark all of thisGet yer independence first then we’ll talk.0 -
With NYS law the only way to prevent it would have been to stick with the hard ticket pickup the day of the show for MSG....which to be honest, based on these prices might have been the way to go. I'm in the minority in saying that I see tickets as a commodity, just like any other good is, but 10C tickets are an exception. Everyone here knows what the rules are, and if any of these listings are 10C the person should be banned for life.PJNB said:
We used to be protected with having to show up at willcall and not know where our seats are. Now anyone from anywhere in the world can put in for MSG tickets in the lotto and sell them on Stubhub. That market is fucked even more so the next show now that this new system is out imo.Saltzy23 said:LOL, I just checked in on the sold prices on StubHub for the MSG show.
Someone paid $2,500 each before fees for 4 tickets in Sec 108.
That's like $13k for 4 tickets to a rock show.
It's ludicrous how much money there is in NYC.
Again though....$13k for 4 tickets?!? That's clearly an exec that told his assistant, 'Get me 4 tickets for this PJ show next to the stage. I don't care what they cost.', because no mere mortal is gonna drop that much knowing they don't have to.
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