***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,377
    edited December 2019
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    mace1229 said:
    He’s officially impeached but since Pelosi has not sent the articles to the Senate, it’s tantamount to someone being charged with or indicted on a crime, but are out on bail with their court date pending. 
    I would agree he is impeached. But I don’t agree with this analogy and is why I don’t think it is far-fetched for those who claim he hasn’t been impeached yet. There is no pending trial.
    Its more like being out on bail but the prosecutor refuses to set a trial date so they can hang the label of being charged over your head indefinitely. At some point a judge is going to say Move forward with a trial or drop the charges.
    I think in 75 years when anyone who can remember this is dead or senile history will remember this as an impeachment with all democratic votes who decided they didn’t have enough for trial.
    Duh...what happens when it goes to the senate in a few weeks?

    People really think this isn’t going to the senate? Are these the same people who thought he wasn’t going to be impeached in the first place?

    Come on...


    They were in a big hurry to get him impeached why are they dragging their feet now?
    Wow, two lies in one question. You topped Team Trump Treason but you should be asking yourself why Team Trump Treason didn’t allow any of his Administration officials to testify before the House committees, particularly the Impeachment 4, release any of the documents requested by the House, testify before the House committee with his attorney present, despite the invitation to do so, and why Moscow Mitchy baby won’t allow witnesses in the upcoming senate trial. Too much critical thought, maybe?
    No, The Sea of Stupidity that you swim in is deep and wide.
    Ummmm, sure. I thought the Sea of Stupidity was what the magical ferry sailed through with Putin on the ritz at the helm. And I only swim in currents, no seas 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    mace1229 said:
    He’s officially impeached but since Pelosi has not sent the articles to the Senate, it’s tantamount to someone being charged with or indicted on a crime, but are out on bail with their court date pending. 
    I would agree he is impeached. But I don’t agree with this analogy and is why I don’t think it is far-fetched for those who claim he hasn’t been impeached yet. There is no pending trial.
    Its more like being out on bail but the prosecutor refuses to set a trial date so they can hang the label of being charged over your head indefinitely. At some point a judge is going to say Move forward with a trial or drop the charges.
    I think in 75 years when anyone who can remember this is dead or senile history will remember this as an impeachment with all democratic votes who decided they didn’t have enough for trial.
    Duh...what happens when it goes to the senate in a few weeks?

    People really think this isn’t going to the senate? Are these the same people who thought he wasn’t going to be impeached in the first place?

    Come on...


    They were in a big hurry to get him impeached why are they dragging their feet now?
    Wow, two lies in one question. You topped Team Trump Treason but you should be asking yourself why Team Trump Treason didn’t allow any of his Administration officials to testify before the House committees, particularly the Impeachment 4, release any of the documents requested by the House, testify before the House committee with his attorney present, despite the invitation to do so, and why Moscow Mitchy baby won’t allow witnesses in the upcoming senate trial. Too much critical thought, maybe?
    No, The Sea of Stupidity that you swim in is deep and wide.
    So why not allow his cabinet members and senior officials to testify?

    I'm not clear on what your argument is.  Are you saying he didn't withhold aid to Ukraine unless the Zelensky announced the investigation?  Or are you saying he did do that and it's fine?  Which one?
    We are well beond that.  Don't insult yourself.


  • The Juggler
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    2019
    Ryme, nothing you say ever makes coherent sense. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    edited December 2019
    RYME said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    mace1229 said:
    He’s officially impeached but since Pelosi has not sent the articles to the Senate, it’s tantamount to someone being charged with or indicted on a crime, but are out on bail with their court date pending. 
    I would agree he is impeached. But I don’t agree with this analogy and is why I don’t think it is far-fetched for those who claim he hasn’t been impeached yet. There is no pending trial.
    Its more like being out on bail but the prosecutor refuses to set a trial date so they can hang the label of being charged over your head indefinitely. At some point a judge is going to say Move forward with a trial or drop the charges.
    I think in 75 years when anyone who can remember this is dead or senile history will remember this as an impeachment with all democratic votes who decided they didn’t have enough for trial.
    Duh...what happens when it goes to the senate in a few weeks?

    People really think this isn’t going to the senate? Are these the same people who thought he wasn’t going to be impeached in the first place?

    Come on...


    They were in a big hurry to get him impeached why are they dragging their feet now?
    Wow, two lies in one question. You topped Team Trump Treason but you should be asking yourself why Team Trump Treason didn’t allow any of his Administration officials to testify before the House committees, particularly the Impeachment 4, release any of the documents requested by the House, testify before the House committee with his attorney present, despite the invitation to do so, and why Moscow Mitchy baby won’t allow witnesses in the upcoming senate trial. Too much critical thought, maybe?
    No, The Sea of Stupidity that you swim in is deep and wide.
    So why not allow his cabinet members and senior officials to testify?

    I'm not clear on what your argument is.  Are you saying he didn't withhold aid to Ukraine unless the Zelensky announced the investigation?  Or are you saying he did do that and it's fine?  Which one?
    We are well beond that.  Don't insult yourself.


    We're beyond the point of the articles?  Why don't you catch me up by answering the question.  Just curious to which of the two defenses you subscribe. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,833
    mickeyrat said:
    She has made it clear, once the senate negotiates the rules for the trial she will send them over...

    This is now on mitch. who is up for re-election
    My take was nice she can agree on the tules. So what happens if they never agree?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    Edved82 said:
    ikiT said:
    Trump/McConnell get more radioactive daily.

    Nobody likes those idiots.
    Trump's approval rating seems to be increasing every day. I just can't understand how this can be possible.

    42.8 % of Americans support Trump.  What a weird time in our history this is.  So much madness, it's unsettling. 
    ...which is actually down .6% from a week ago and lower than any other incumbent at this point in their term in the history of polling. 

    Just want to make sure we keep things in perspective. 
    I so hope you are right!
    ikiT said:
    it's fucking way less. 

    I live in rural MD and MAGA hats and Trump/Pence signs and stickers in public is my metric.  ZERO.
    Again, so hope that is the case!
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Edved82 said:
    ikiT said:
    Trump/McConnell get more radioactive daily.

    Nobody likes those idiots.
    Trump's approval rating seems to be increasing every day. I just can't understand how this can be possible.

    42.8 % of Americans support Trump.  What a weird time in our history this is.  So much madness, it's unsettling. 
    ...which is actually down .6% from a week ago and lower than any other incumbent at this point in their term in the history of polling. 

    Just want to make sure we keep things in perspective. 
    further, this or other polls, what was the sample size, demographic, questions asked etc......WHO conducted the polling......
    Good point! 

    I don't see how T could have more supporters than one or two gymnasiums full of deranged maniacs (a few of whom I call my friends and for whom I hope they find good help for their condition, LOL).

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,543
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    She has made it clear, onince the senate negotiates the rules for the trial she will send them over...

    This is now on mitch. who is up for re-election
    My take was nice she can agree on the tules. So what happens if they never agree?
    its not about her agreeing to the rules its about knowing what they are.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,833
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    She has made it clear, onince the senate negotiates the rules for the trial she will send them over...

    This is now on mitch. who is up for re-election
    My take was nice she can agree on the tules. So what happens if they never agree?
    its not about her agreeing to the rules its about knowing what they are.
    I never notice my horrible typos until someone quotes me. Is that just me?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,543
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    She has made it clear, onince the senate negotiates the rules for the trial she will send them over...

    This is now on mitch. who is up for re-election
    My take was nice she can agree on the tules. So what happens if they never agree?
    its not about her agreeing to the rules its about knowing what they are.
    I never notice my horrible typos until someone quotes me. Is that just me?
    its about 50/50 for me

    fat fingers on a virtual keyboard don't play well together at times....
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    Hey! How’s Rodger Dodger Stoned dooing? Manaforte? Prolly thinking what’s taking so long? Too bad they don’t realize they’re wipes. Well, at their ages, they’re disposable. They lived colorful lives. Suckers.
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  • brianlux
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    Dimitri Firtash. Get to know the name and the background. You’re willfully ignorant if you don’t. 

    Hey! How’s Rodger Dodger Stoned dooing? Manaforte? Prolly thinking what’s taking so long? Too bad they don’t realize they’re wipes. Well, at their ages, they’re disposable. They lived colorful lives. Suckers.

    I did as you suggested.  Sounds like a major player on the Ukraine scene. 

    P.S.  Google spells it "Dmytro".  I wonder if T calls him Nitro Dmytro?

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  • ikiT said:
    it's fucking way less. 

    I live in rural MD and MAGA hats and Trump/Pence signs and stickers in public is my metric.  ZERO.

    where have all the pro Team Trump treason posters gone? So sure in their future and the fruit from the poisonous tree and the swagger, bullies unite, leading to what, silent majority or elimination of the white race? Locked and loaded? Peering around the tree, chimmily or sleigh? 

    Yo! Don’t shoot the blade or flush the toilet. Wayne Pepe la pu needs the jet fuel money, for convenience, suckers.

    murry Obamakha, suckers.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    edited December 2019
    RYME said:
    mace1229 said:
    He’s officially impeached but since Pelosi has not sent the articles to the Senate, it’s tantamount to someone being charged with or indicted on a crime, but are out on bail with their court date pending. 
    I would agree he is impeached. But I don’t agree with this analogy and is why I don’t think it is far-fetched for those who claim he hasn’t been impeached yet. There is no pending trial.
    Its more like being out on bail but the prosecutor refuses to set a trial date so they can hang the label of being charged over your head indefinitely. At some point a judge is going to say Move forward with a trial or drop the charges.
    I think in 75 years when anyone who can remember this is dead or senile history will remember this as an impeachment with all democratic votes who decided they didn’t have enough for trial.
    Duh...what happens when it goes to the senate in a few weeks?

    People really think this isn’t going to the senate? Are these the same people who thought he wasn’t going to be impeached in the first place?

    Come on...


    They were in a big hurry to get him impeached why are they dragging their feet now?  To delay the inevitable?
    They were “in a big hurry” because of their responsibility to protect the institution from a corrupt president who would act in further corrupt ways potentially based on a history of corrupt ways. This is evidenced by how Pelosi only acted once this particular situation arose (while many in the public or in Congress were already calling for impeachment). To use your terms, people saw that era as Pelosi “dragging her feet” yet she avoided the temporarily politically gratifying decision. The difference between then and now was the quality of the evidence. That shouldn’t be hard to understand.

    Your other point, in which you also already misrepresent Pelosi today as “dragging her feet”, is about her using this time in the media to do whatever she can to make the Senate trial one which forces facts (I.e. first-hand witnesses) to be discussed, even in a Republican-controlled body. If this doesn’t go to Senate, the media will clearly tell the story about how McConnell wouldn’t allow four cabinet members who Trump trusts, to testify. If it does, there will be four witnesses testifying, whom Trump trusts. 

    The reason I mention “witnesses who Trump trusts” is because if you trust Trump, if you trust McConnell, if you trust Trump’s appointees, if you feel Democrats are dishonest, there shouldn’t even be Republican opposition to this truth-seeking, as this would be the way to definitively demonstrate that this was a witch hunt. Without presenting facts to counter, and only rhetoric, Republicans can never disprove this (which, RYME, from an outsider’s perspective is about as suspicious as events come - why don’t you want your guy cleared in what you consider a ‘fair court’ since it’s Republican controlled?). Also remember it would still be Republicans defining the scope of the trial within the framing of the Articles.

    Anyways, this is all a waste of energy. You’ve rarely if ever offered a cogent rebuttal to anything I’ve argued on here, and I expect this time will be no different. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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    President Pays Gigantic Fine for Stealing From Charity

    By BEN MATHIS-LILLEY

    DEC 11, 2019

    This was TWO WEEKS ago.  So much impeaching still to do.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/12/trump-pays-2-million-fine-for-stealing-from-charity.html


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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited December 2019
    2018
    donaldtrumpforvets.com  HILARIOUS
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    If he's not getting arrested, let's put him on some kind of broad in scope timeout before he wrecks the place.  Jesus.


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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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    The unsecure iphone that belongs to Devin Nunes (the campaign to re-elect bought it) knows the cell phone number of Lev Parnas.
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  • josevolution
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    Still thee most corrupt disgraceful disgusting racist human to ever occupy the WH and if you support him you are in the same boat of deplorables disgraceful disgusting humans ...merry Xmas happy impeachment month 😀
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,207
    one of the surgeons at one of my accounts wears a MAGA surgery cap to operate with. this is in small town Illinois, about 2.5 hours from st louis. he doesn't wear it every day, but he wore it the day of the impeachment vote and the day after. he can get away with it there as a lot of the staff and patients are trumpers, seeing him in that cap always makes me feel uneasy, especially when he is pissed off about something. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
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    one of the surgeons at one of my accounts wears a MAGA surgery cap to operate with. this is in small town Illinois, about 2.5 hours from st louis. he doesn't wear it every day, but he wore it the day of the impeachment vote and the day after. he can get away with it there as a lot of the staff and patients are trumpers, seeing him in that cap always makes me feel uneasy, especially when he is pissed off about something. 
    I would opt for a different surgeon 
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