***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2019
    2019
    Oh sorry about that! Didn’t check to see if it was posted earlier. 

    Good sign though, folks
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    Unless they have huge sample sizes, polls should be ignored.  

    5 Reepeww-bie Sens can sink this fucker.  That's the number I'm looking at.
    5+ 47 = very short of conviction, which I believe stands at 67 votes for conviction?
    I think iki is thinking in terms of the election maybe...losing some republicans will make him look weaker heading into it
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  • Lerxst1992
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    "THE FIELD"
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/public-support-trump-conviction-time-091925963.html?guccounter=1

    new poll out this morning showing support for conviction and removal at 55%. the highest it is has ever been, up from 48% when last poll was released.

    the gop senate strategy of whitewashing this is not popular.


    All the gop does is whitewash. From gerrymandering, to blocking voter registration to only caring about the deficit when a dem is Pres, it’s all whitewash. And they always get away with it.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    I don't trust that shady bastard 
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2019
    2019
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
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  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
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  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
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  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    A little different than what Team Trump Treason did. And lobbying has its own set of laws, rules and regulations regarding conduct. I’m not sure I understand what comparison you’re making?
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  • mickeyrat
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    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
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  • ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    A little different than what Team Trump Treason did. And lobbying has its own set of laws, rules and regulations regarding conduct. I’m not sure I understand what comparison you’re making?
    Hmmm?  What comparison could be made of a quid pro quo?  

    Can't think of a one, just thinking out loud...
  • mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
    Nor subvert the will of the people via passed legislation by both houses of Congress, you know, one of the co-equal branches of government.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
    Yes, the last part is insider trading of sorts.
  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
    Nor subvert the will of the people via passed legislation by both houses of Congress, you know, one of the co-equal branches of government.
    well , theres that......really the whole affair is textbook definitions of bribery (whitehouse visit, still hasnt happened) and extortion( give me a fucking break, "its a coincidence the money got held an hour after the call. nothing to see here.")
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
    Nor subvert the will of the people via passed legislation by both houses of Congress, you know, one of the co-equal branches of government.
    well , theres that......really the whole affair is textbook definitions of bribery (whitehouse visit, still hasnt happened) and extortion( give me a fucking break, "its a coincidence the money got held an hour after the call. nothing to see here.")
    And then the coverup, refusing to cooperate in a congressional investigation. The Impeachment 4 should testify at trial.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    technically speaking, I would say yes. but only up to a point.

    chief difference though is advocating on behalf of a client, for legislative purposes. Even kosher when efforts are in the national interest but NOT for personal political gain......
    Nor subvert the will of the people via passed legislation by both houses of Congress, you know, one of the co-equal branches of government.
    well , theres that......really the whole affair is textbook definitions of bribery (whitehouse visit, still hasnt happened) and extortion( give me a fucking break, "its a coincidence the money got held an hour after the call. nothing to see here.")
    And then the coverup, refusing to cooperate in a congressional investigation. The Impeachment 4 should testify at trial.
    @Halifax
    Who are the 4?  I missed them.  Wondering if Gulianni is one?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    ikiT said:
    I was thinking more about MItch not being in control of jamming this shizz down everyone's throat. 

    My take on removal is that its prob not gonna happen.
    You are right that only a handful of them wield some control in making this be a fair trial. That's why polls like the one from this morning are important. 

    I would say there's a 12% chance of removal at this point. If, somehow, Bolton becomes a witness....I would jump it to about 30%.

    Pelosi holding onto the articles is looking smarter and smarter...
    The Impeachment 4 need to testify and the Team Trump Treason Administration needs to be compelled to release all related documents as requested by the House. What are they hiding, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo.”
    Isn't lobbying a form or even a Quid Pro Quo in itself?
    In what context?
    A lobbyist receives money from a contributor and makes sure that contributor gets taken care of later down the line.  You know, how politics are done nowadays.
    A little different than what Team Trump Treason did. And lobbying has its own set of laws, rules and regulations regarding conduct. I’m not sure I understand what comparison you’re making?
    Hmmm?  What comparison could be made of a quid pro quo?  

    Can't think of a one, just thinking out loud...
    Holy shit dude, you don't see the difference?  Trump withheld congressionally appropriated tax dollars for defense, until he received a personal favor for his re-election.  You don't see how that is different than lobbying under the very structured statutes in this country?  Give me a break.  Lobbyists campaign for LAWS to be written and passed by congress, and then signed by the president.  These are the established checks and balances.