***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

brianlux

oftenreading said:

lindamarie73 said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

This is a Safe Space!!!  Stop telling the truth where and upsetting everyone.   Unicorn’s and Magical Ferry dust only zone.  

Does the magical ferry sail to your land of unreason? 

LOL.  Almost as good as a magic carper tide. 

mickeyrat

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Johnson acquitted in Senate trial STILL IMPEACHED.

Nixon , 3 Articles adopted in committee rendered moot after resignation before adoption by full House.

Clinton  aquitted in Senate STILL IMPEACHED

Trump IMPEACHED Senate trial pending

STILL IMPEACHED.....

btw, this is about his preformance AS president. Not a 3 yr old election......

mcgruff10

mickeyrat said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Johnson acquitted in Senate trial STILL IMPEACHED.

Nixon rendered moot after resignation. STILL IMPEACHED

Clinton  aquitted in Senate STILL IMPEACHED

Trump IMPEACHED Senate trial pending

STILL IMPEACHED.....

btw, this is about his preformance AS president. Not a 3 yr old election......

Almost positive Nixon was not impeached.  Only three presidents were ever impeached: Johnson, Clinton and trump.  

mickeyrat

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Johnson acquitted in Senate trial STILL IMPEACHED.

Nixon rendered moot after resignation. STILL IMPEACHED

Clinton  aquitted in Senate STILL IMPEACHED

Trump IMPEACHED Senate trial pending

STILL IMPEACHED.....

btw, this is about his preformance AS president. Not a 3 yr old election......

Almost positive Nixon was not impeached.  Only three presidents were ever impeached: Johnson, Clinton and trump.  

yeah, you are right. the committee approved 3 rejected 2 articles. It hadnt gone to a full house vote  yet.

McTeach for the win......

Halifax2TheMax

Nixon resigned before the full House voted on the articles of impeachment that passed out of the judiciary committee when it became evident that the articles would be passed by the House on a bi-partisan basis. Nixon lost the support of his party when the evidence confirmed his guilt and he most likely would have been convicted in the senate. The Watergate Tapes sealed his fate.

RYME

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Bahahahahahaha! Nonsense. Why won’t Moscow Mitchy Baby allow Bolton, Mulvaney, Blair and Duffey to testify in the senate trial? Talk about a box! You best take it off yo head, yo!

You dont speak or read english? You are a leftist brainwashed hack deal with it.  How you feel don't make you right.
You would be much more credible, and this thread would be much more fun for you if the facts are on your side, but they aren't.

RYME

brianlux said:

oftenreading said:

lindamarie73 said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

This is a Safe Space!!!  Stop telling the truth where and upsetting everyone.   Unicorn’s and Magical Ferry dust only zone.  

Does the magical ferry sail to your land of unreason? 

LOL.  Almost as good as a magic carper tide. 

This Thread should read
Gumdrop Fairies R Us.  Because we can't handle the truth.

Halifax2TheMax

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Bahahahahahaha! Nonsense. Why won’t Moscow Mitchy Baby allow Bolton, Mulvaney, Blair and Duffey to testify in the senate trial? Talk about a box! You best take it off yo head, yo!

You dont speak or read english? You are a leftist brainwashed hack deal with it.  How you feel don't make you right.
You would be much more credible, and this thread would be much more fun for you if the facts are on your side, but they aren't.

How do I feel? Pretty damn well considering Team Trump Treason was impeached and Moscow Mitchy Baby won’t allow the Impeachment 4 to testify because they’ll confirm what we already know. But that’s okay because facts continue to drip out, like the water from a shower head or faucet and it’s just a matter of time. Not even the sweet baby Jesus will be able to save your “chosen one.” So yea, Bahahahahahaha! Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock goes the removal clock. Merry Christmas!

oftenreading

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

The articles haven't been sent over to the Senate yet because they do not want a trial there because the senate trial will call up whoever they want under oath.  That would be devastating.  The Dems know they can't remove him, so
They just wanted the label tagged on Trump.
(Trump Impeached)  (impeached doesn't mean removed) they hope that we the people don't know the difference.  No president has ever been removed. Nixon got the closest but resigned ahead of the Senate vote, so technically he wasn't removed either.
 They don't want the label (Trump Impeached but Acquitted)  and they don't want to have to answer those nasty questions under oath that they would get.
This is fact not opinion.  The dems are in a box.  They are stalling trying to by time & figure out a way to wiggle out of the bind that they are in.
That is the problem.  All of this distraction during an election year?  How is the Dem candidate going to get his or her message out?
Bottom line you're still trying to undo 2016.
Good luck.

Bahahahahahaha! Nonsense. Why won’t Moscow Mitchy Baby allow Bolton, Mulvaney, Blair and Duffey to testify in the senate trial? Talk about a box! You best take it off yo head, yo!

You dont speak or read english? You are a leftist brainwashed hack deal with it.  How you feel don't make you right.
You would be much more credible, and this thread would be much more fun for you if the facts are on your side, but they aren't.

“How you feel doesn’t make you right”. Words to love by indeed. 

So, we’re waiting for you to post some facts. Any facts at all, really. You could start with some impeachment facts, and when you’re done you could move on to some facts regarding climate change, and then for dessert some facts on how “the Left” is using Thunberg. 

Lerxst1992

"THE FIELD"

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.lindamarie73 said:

My evidence will be presented in less then a year....And thanks for the Troll label, that’s when one know’s they have Won.  I will try to leave this safe space alone for a bit.  I understand misery needs company and conservatives are not welcome here.  Isn’t that ironic, don’t ya think??  AM Have a blessed day 

Maybe a liberal band's political forum would have liberal leaning fans?

No worries though. If you happen to score tickets to the upcoming tour just rest easy knowing $2 from each ticket will go to helping liberal causes.

Liberalism doesnt make liberals miserable, it makes conservatives miserable. 

mickeyrat

Ruh roh...

Pentagon Aid to Ukraine Was Frozen Right After Trump Spoke With Country’s Leader https://nyti.ms/34Hgwdv

Pentagon Aid to Ukraine Was Frozen Right After Trump Spoke With Country’s Leader

Emails also suggest President Trump first began asking about $250 million in Pentagon aid after a June 19 article in the Washington Examiner.

President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine arriving in Paris this month for a summit meeting.Credit...Ludovic Marin/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

By Edward Wong

• Dec. 21, 2019Updated 9:28 p.m. ET
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WASHINGTON — About 90 minutes after President Trump held a controversial telephone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in July, the White House budget office ordered the Pentagon to suspend all military aid that Congress had allocated to Ukraine, according to emails released by the Pentagon late Friday.

A budget official, Michael Duffey, also told the Pentagon to keep quiet about the aid freeze because of the “sensitive nature of the request,” according to a message dated July 25.

An earlier email that Mr. Duffey sent to the Pentagon comptroller suggested that Mr. Trump began asking aides about $250 million in military aid set aside for Ukraine after noticing a June 19 article about it in the Washington Examiner.

The emails add to public understanding of the events that prompted the Democratic-led House to call for Mr. Trump to be removed from office. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump was impeached for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress along a party-line vote after documents and testimony by senior administration officials revealed that he had withheld $391 million in aid to Ukraine at the same time that he asked for investigations from the Ukrainian president that would benefit him politically.

The emails were in a batch of 146 pages of documents released by the Pentagon late Friday to the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit news organization and watchdog group, in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the minority leader, has pressed for Mr. Duffey, a political appointee who is associate director of national security programs at the Office of Management and Budget, to testify in a Senate trial. On Twitter on Saturday, he pointed to the July 25 email as “all the more reason” Mr. Duffey and others must appear. Republican Senate leaders have indicated they do not plan to call witnesses.

The email raises further questions about the process by which Mr. Trump imposed the hold on the military aid, and the link between the hold and the requests he made of Mr. Zelensky in the telephone call, which prompted concern among national security officials with knowledge of the conversation.

In the call, after Mr. Zelensky mentioned Ukraine was ready to buy anti-tank missiles to use in a war against a Russian-backed insurgency, Mr. Trump said, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” according to a reconstructed transcript released by the White House. He then pressed Mr. Zelensky to open an investigation based on a conspiracy theory that Ukraine had interfered in the 2016 United States elections and one based on unsubstantiated claims of corrupt acts by former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic presidential candidate.

That call took place from 9:03 a.m. to 9:33 a.m. At 11:04 a.m., Mr. Duffey emailed Defense Department officials telling them of the aid, “Please hold off on any additional DoD obligations of these funds, pending direction from that process.” Obligation refers to the process of a government agency designating how funds will be spent.

In addition, he wrote, “Given the sensitive nature of the request, I appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute the direction.”

The budget office declined to comment on Saturday, and the Pentagon did not reply to a request for comment.

A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to publicly discuss the matter, said the timing of the email — an hour and a half after Mr. Trump’s July 25 call with Mr. Zelensky — was coincidental.

The official said the email was part of a weekslong exchange over aid to Ukraine. The July 25 email came after the budget office issued a formal, written hold on the aid, the official said. The reference to sensitivity around the discussions, the official said, was based on the potential for concerns about career officials at the agency that had arisen from previous instances when aid had been cut.

In a June 19 email, Mr. Duffey asked Elaine McCusker, the Pentagon comptroller, about the aid in the context of the Washington Examiner article, saying, “The President has asked about this funding release, and I have been tasked to follow-up with someone over there to get more detail.”

continues....

mickeyrat

continued article....

According to the private testimony of Mark Sandy, a senior budget official, Mr. Trump began inquiring about the aid on June 19 after seeing a news report. Mr. Sandy said in a closed-door deposition before lawmakers in November that he learned of Mr. Trump’s decision to freeze the aid through a July 12 email from Robert Blair, an aide to Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff.

The budget office initially blocked the State Department’s $141 million portion of the aid package on July 3.

The emails underscore what some officials say was the central role that the Office of Management and Budget played in Mr. Trump’s Ukraine pressure campaign, which he orchestrated with the help of his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani.

Democratic leaders in Congress have called for testimonies from Mr. Mulvaney, the director of the budget office; John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser; and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. None have agreed to testify.

Mr. Bolton is said to have opposed the pressure campaign on Ukraine, while Mr. Pompeo enabled it — he spoke with Mr. Giuliani weeks before he helped Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Trump with the April ouster of the United States ambassador to Ukraine, Marie L. Yovanovitch, who promoted anticorruption efforts.

Mr. Sandy’s private testimony disclosed that some budget officials were disturbed by the aid freeze to Ukraine. Two budget officials resigned this year in part out of frustration at the freeze, he said. One official had been frustrated by not understanding the reason for the hold, Mr. Sandy said, and another had offered a “dissenting opinion” on whether the hold was legal.

Mr. Trump released the aid on Sept. 11, after he learned of the whistle-blower complaint in late August. Mr. Bolton had resigned the previous day, though to what degree that was tied to Ukraine is unclear. Mr. Duffey wrote an email to Ms. McCusker at 9:52 p.m. on Sept. 11 saying he hoped that the signing of the release order would take place that night, and that he was “glad to have this behind us.”

Maggie Haberman contributed reporting from New York.

Edward Wong is a diplomatic and international correspondent who has reported for The Times for more than 20 years, 13 from Iraq and China. He received a Livingston Award and was on a team of Pulitzer Prize finalists for Iraq War coverage. He has been a Nieman Fellow at Harvard and a Ferris Professor of Journalism at Princeton. @ewong

Maggie Haberman contributed reporting.

Smellyman

2018

The super religious zealot who loves Fox News and the racist/bigot/sexual assaulter/adulterer/corrupt/treasonous POTUS is calling people brainwashed.  Amusing.

brianlux

I'm not sure what the deal is here.  Even the lawyers can't seem to agree on this.  Is there anyone here qualified to really know what is what here?  I know I'm not!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-donald-trump-impeached-white-house-considers-arguing-no-articles-of-impeachment-not-delivered-to-senate/

The White House is considering making the case that Mr. Trump has not been impeached based on an opinion piece by Harvard Law Professor Noah Feldman on Bloomberg's opinion page Thursday. Feldman was one of the legal experts called by Democrats to testify before the House Judiciary Committee earlier this month and has advocated for Mr. Trump's impeachment and removal from office.

"Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial," Feldman wrote in Bloomberg. "Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial."

"If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn't actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn't truly impeached at all," Feldman wrote.

However, Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe wrote on Twitter that he disagreed with Feldman's analysis, saying that "under Art. I, Sec. 2, Clause 5, he was impeached on Dec 18, 2019. He will forever remain impeached. Period." That portion of the Constitution says that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

Halifax2TheMax

Listen to the Tribe. Not Terry Francona,nor the mistake by the lake or TRRHOF.

ikiT

2018

lindamarie73 said:

My evidence will be presented in less then a year....And thanks for the Troll label, that’s when one know’s they have Won.  I will try to leave this safe space alone for a bit.  I understand misery needs company and conservatives are not welcome here.  Isn’t that ironic, don’t ya think??  AM Have a blessed day 

ew

ikiT

2018

RYME said:

Impeachment isn't official until the articles of impeachment are sent over to the Senate.  So Donald Trump has not officially been impeached yet.  It has been voted on by the House yes!  But it hasn't been sent over to the Senate yet, so nothing's official yet.
If they don't send the Articles over to the Senate, it will be rendered null and void.  If they do send it over to the Senate, they will have their Senate trial and he will be acquitted.
So pick your poison.

BLAH BLAH BLAH

ikiT

2018

Halifax2TheMax said:

Listen to the Tribe. Not Terry Francona,nor the mistake by the lake or TRRHOF.

ikiT

2018

mickeyrat

brianlux said:

I'm not sure what the deal is here.  Even the lawyers can't seem to agree on this.  Is there anyone here qualified to really know what is what here?  I know I'm not!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-donald-trump-impeached-white-house-considers-arguing-no-articles-of-impeachment-not-delivered-to-senate/

The White House is considering making the case that Mr. Trump has not been impeached based on an opinion piece by Harvard Law Professor Noah Feldman on Bloomberg's opinion page Thursday. Feldman was one of the legal experts called by Democrats to testify before the House Judiciary Committee earlier this month and has advocated for Mr. Trump's impeachment and removal from office.

"Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial," Feldman wrote in Bloomberg. "Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial."

"If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn't actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn't truly impeached at all," Feldman wrote.

However, Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe wrote on Twitter that he disagreed with Feldman's analysis, saying that "under Art. I, Sec. 2, Clause 5, he was impeached on Dec 18, 2019. He will forever remain impeached. Period." That portion of the Constitution says that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

hot take.  its Impeached AND aquitted or Impeached AND convicted.

They seem to suggest if the Senate chooses to not take it up(unconstitutional imo) then that nullifies the House action?

I dont believe that, given each chamber has its own seperate role and powers in regards to this.

Frankly, let this all play out and not listen to what amounts to click bait bullshit in any media platform. They are trying to fill air time with cheap and easy. Instead of informing us of what all else is going on in the world, which is a lot......