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The Juggler said:iigotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.I miss igotid880 -
igotid88 said:The Juggler said:iigotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:igotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.
Not sure why you think I'm making excuses. He's gonna make the HoF. Why do I need to make excuses? Just saying that Eli gets all the hate with what's going on with the Giants. When there are legit, so many other things wrong with that team for almost a decade now. Also, Dan Marino... What?? I wouldn't call his numbers unreal. They are good, but not unreal. Poorer defenses? Eli won Superbowls with his defenses ranked 17th and 25th. Dan Marino had a top 10 defense five times in his career and couldn't close.Post edited by crookedcross on0 -
crookedcross said:The Juggler said:igotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.
Not sure why you think I'm making excuses. He's gonna make the HoF. Why do I need to make excuses? Just saying that Eli gets all the hate with what's going on with the Giants. When there are legit, so many other things wrong with that team for almost a decade now. Also, Dan Marino... What?? I wouldn't call his numbers unreal. They are good, but not unreal. Poorer defenses? Eli won Superbowls with his defenses ranked 17th and 25th. Dan Marino had a top 10 defense five times in his career and couldn't close.Marino had 4 top 10 defenses including his final year when he was a shell of his former self, Eli had two. So I guess the defenses were roughly similar then.And if you don’t think Marino’s numbers are unreal, I don’t know what to tell you. He ended his career as the all time leader in yards and touchdowns BEFORE the NFL made things much easier on its quarterbacks.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:igotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.
Not sure why you think I'm making excuses. He's gonna make the HoF. Why do I need to make excuses? Just saying that Eli gets all the hate with what's going on with the Giants. When there are legit, so many other things wrong with that team for almost a decade now. Also, Dan Marino... What?? I wouldn't call his numbers unreal. They are good, but not unreal. Poorer defenses? Eli won Superbowls with his defenses ranked 17th and 25th. Dan Marino had a top 10 defense five times in his career and couldn't close.Marino had 4 top 10 defenses including his final year when he was a shell of his former self, Eli had two. So I guess the defenses were roughly similar then.And if you don’t think Marino’s numbers are unreal, I don’t know what to tell you. He ended his career as the all time leader in yards and touchdowns BEFORE the NFL made things much easier on its quarterbacks.
Dan Marino played for 17 years and rarely got hurt. Of course he will have high numbers. Since you're a stat guy, DM's personal career numbers and averages are barely above Eli's at 15 years, who we call mediocre with two rings. DM just did it in a much more consistent manner than Eli's roller coaster. Not arguing his HoF status or arguing who is better, or mean to compare the two, but I guess great and unreal are just two different things to me. Since you brought him up laughing at our "excuses" for Eli. I will however, call DM great, and a pioneer.Post edited by crookedcross on0 -
Came here to find out if Coughlin will be replacing Shurmur, yes?0
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Jearlpam0925 said:Came here to find out if Coughlin will be replacing Shurmur, yes?0
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crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:igotid88 said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:116-117
I really think the past 3 seasons is what intensified the below average talks the most, but look at the personnel since 2013. I mean seriously, he didn't even have receivers in 2017... With Flowers at his blind side.
Drew Brees gets the ball out in 2.55 seconds. Only one other qb gets the ball out of his hands faster. Eli, actually is actually 8th at 2.66 seconds. Every quarterback in the league is below 3 seconds, statues or not.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/all#average-time-to-throw
Also, not for nothing, but Dan Marino (the most statuesque of all statues) laughs at all your guys' Eli excuses. He had it much worse than Eli had with poorer defenses, poorer running games, and so-so offensive lines at best. Despite all that, his numbers are obviously unreal. That's a sure fire hall of famer. Nobody doubted that.
Not sure why you think I'm making excuses. He's gonna make the HoF. Why do I need to make excuses? Just saying that Eli gets all the hate with what's going on with the Giants. When there are legit, so many other things wrong with that team for almost a decade now. Also, Dan Marino... What?? I wouldn't call his numbers unreal. They are good, but not unreal. Poorer defenses? Eli won Superbowls with his defenses ranked 17th and 25th. Dan Marino had a top 10 defense five times in his career and couldn't close.Marino had 4 top 10 defenses including his final year when he was a shell of his former self, Eli had two. So I guess the defenses were roughly similar then.And if you don’t think Marino’s numbers are unreal, I don’t know what to tell you. He ended his career as the all time leader in yards and touchdowns BEFORE the NFL made things much easier on its quarterbacks.
Dan Marino played for 17 years and rarely got hurt. Of course he will have high numbers. Since you're a stat guy, DM's personal career numbers and averages are barely above Eli's at 15 years, who we call mediocre with two rings. DM just did it in a much more consistent manner than Eli's roller coaster. Not arguing his HoF status or arguing who is better, or mean to compare the two, but I guess great and unreal are just two different things to me. Since you brought him up laughing at our "excuses" for Eli. I will however, call DM great, and a pioneer.Marino played at a time when it was way more difficult on quarterbacks compared to Eli’s era so it’s tough to compare stats. Despite this-you’re right that things like completion percent and rating are about the same. Difference is in the 80’s 60% completion and 85% rating were among the league leaders whereas today they’re....just about average. Then of course we know of the yards and td’s where Marino held the records when he retired despite playing in an era dominated by defense.Comparing Eli to Marino isn’t fair to Eli. Marino was one of the all time greats. Eli was arguably one of the ten best of his era (largely because of the super bows)...just so happens that his era was one in which the NFL made it incredibly easy for quarterbacks to put up astronomical numbers. Marino would average over 5,000 yards and over 40 tds a year in today’s game.www.myspace.com0 -
Forgot to add that I was actually surprised how low Eli’s rankings were on a yearly basis for completion percent and rating. I think I saw him break into the top ten three times? Often times he was in the bottom ten whereas Marino stayed in the top ten for most of his career, including many top 5’s during his prime (no such top fives for Eli). And again, Marino did this when things were more difficult and he also was usually top three in attempts because he never had much of a running game.That’s the point. One is a sure fire hall of famer despite not winning a super bowl. The other is probably a hall of famer who has two super bowl mvp’s. I’ll say it again—Eli’s career has always intrigued the hell out of me. This little exercise just reinforced that.www.myspace.com0
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The Juggler said:Forgot to add that I was actually surprised how low Eli’s rankings were on a yearly basis for completion percent and rating. I think I saw him break into the top ten three times? Often times he was in the bottom ten whereas Marino stayed in the top ten for most of his career, including many top 5’s during his prime (no such top fives for Eli). And again, Marino did this when things were more difficult and he also was usually top three in attempts because he never had much of a running game.That’s the point. One is a sure fire hall of famer despite not winning a super bowl. The other is probably a hall of famer who has two super bowl mvp’s. I’ll say it again—Eli’s career has always intrigued the hell out of me. This little exercise just reinforced that.0
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crookedcross said:The Juggler said:Forgot to add that I was actually surprised how low Eli’s rankings were on a yearly basis for completion percent and rating. I think I saw him break into the top ten three times? Often times he was in the bottom ten whereas Marino stayed in the top ten for most of his career, including many top 5’s during his prime (no such top fives for Eli). And again, Marino did this when things were more difficult and he also was usually top three in attempts because he never had much of a running game.That’s the point. One is a sure fire hall of famer despite not winning a super bowl. The other is probably a hall of famer who has two super bowl mvp’s. I’ll say it again—Eli’s career has always intrigued the hell out of me. This little exercise just reinforced that.
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The Juggler said:crookedcross said:The Juggler said:Forgot to add that I was actually surprised how low Eli’s rankings were on a yearly basis for completion percent and rating. I think I saw him break into the top ten three times? Often times he was in the bottom ten whereas Marino stayed in the top ten for most of his career, including many top 5’s during his prime (no such top fives for Eli). And again, Marino did this when things were more difficult and he also was usually top three in attempts because he never had much of a running game.That’s the point. One is a sure fire hall of famer despite not winning a super bowl. The other is probably a hall of famer who has two super bowl mvp’s. I’ll say it again—Eli’s career has always intrigued the hell out of me. This little exercise just reinforced that.0
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Looks like a no defense game. Wish Eli was playing so he could add to his stats.I miss igotid880
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Good god this team. An absolute disaster. Flush out the crap, starting from the top
And so you see, I have come to doubt
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.0 -
igotid88 said:Looks like a no defense game. Wish Eli was playing so he could add to his stats.www.myspace.com0
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Good thing they blew the chase young sweepstakes with the win0
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The Juggler said:igotid88 said:Looks like a no defense game. Wish Eli was playing so he could add to his stats.
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igotid88 said:The Juggler said:igotid88 said:Looks like a no defense game. Wish Eli was playing so he could add to his stats.www.myspace.com0
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Eli worshipping is an art form.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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The Juggler said:igotid88 said:The Juggler said:igotid88 said:Looks like a no defense game. Wish Eli was playing so he could add to his stats.I miss igotid880
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