Pacific Ocean Pollution AKA The Great Pacific Garbage Patch

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    oftenreading said:
    Finally a mechanism that seems to have some effectiveness at removing plastic from the oceans. A small step which might possibly become a big step:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/03/ocean-cleanup-device-successfully-collects-plastic-for-first-time
    I'm very happy to see they  mention being able to collect micro-plastics which are really the most problematic.  Good news!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    brianlux said:
    Anybody here see the movie "Downsizing"?  What a weird, convoluted movie.  I actually thought it was both a mess, pretty bad, sometimes good and with great moments.  It's like three or four movies mashed together.

    Anyway, who's going down the tunnel and who's staying here with me?  Are ya with me??
    I saw it last week.  Your description is accurate lol
    After the first half hour, the downsizing aspect was irrelevant.  
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited October 2019
    brianlux said:
    Anybody here see the movie "Downsizing"?  What a weird, convoluted movie.  I actually thought it was both a mess, pretty bad, sometimes good and with great moments.  It's like three or four movies mashed together.

    Anyway, who's going down the tunnel and who's staying here with me?  Are ya with me??
    Great basic premise, but like you say, then they decided to put a second and third movie inside the first one, and it all fell apart. I really wish it had just stuck with the first movie idea.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Anybody here see the movie "Downsizing"?  What a weird, convoluted movie.  I actually thought it was both a mess, pretty bad, sometimes good and with great moments.  It's like three or four movies mashed together.

    Anyway, who's going down the tunnel and who's staying here with me?  Are ya with me??
    Great basic premise, but like you say, then they decided to put a second and third movie inside the first one, and it all fell apart. I really wish it had just stuck with the first movie idea.
    I know this will sound dumb, but I like "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" better.  :smile: 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    brianlux said:
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    Thanks Brian!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    edited February 2021
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    Thanks Brian!

    Here's the dilemma- how do we reduce plastic usage which is horrendous how because, due to COVID,  most restaurants are take out only which means plastic containers, and not let restaurants that are already struggle go out of business?   Cardboard containers?  More trees chopped down mean less uptake of carbon in the atmosphere. We've basically painted ourselves into a corner.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    Thanks Brian!

    Here's the dilemma- how do we reduce plastic usage which is horrendous how because, due to COVID,  most restaurants are take out only which means plastic containers, and not let restaurants that are already struggle go out of business?   Cardboard containers?  More trees chopped down mean less uptake of carbon in the atmosphere. We've basically painted ourselves into a corner.
    Brian, I live near the beach and something I was continually seeing was peoples used up rubber gloves on the ground and not in receptacle.
    So where does that end up?  In the sewer and out into the sea.

    I will still debate you with the pulp trees that are farmed for paper and cardboard products.  They are constantly being renewed.  Construction materials?  I'm not too sure.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    Thanks Brian!

    Here's the dilemma- how do we reduce plastic usage which is horrendous how because, due to COVID,  most restaurants are take out only which means plastic containers, and not let restaurants that are already struggle go out of business?   Cardboard containers?  More trees chopped down mean less uptake of carbon in the atmosphere. We've basically painted ourselves into a corner.
    Hemp...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Google "plastic and pandemic", read, and see what we are doing to the planet. 
    Here's just a few of many articles:


    Thanks Brian!

    Here's the dilemma- how do we reduce plastic usage which is horrendous how because, due to COVID,  most restaurants are take out only which means plastic containers, and not let restaurants that are already struggle go out of business?   Cardboard containers?  More trees chopped down mean less uptake of carbon in the atmosphere. We've basically painted ourselves into a corner.
    Hemp...
    You know I keep forgetting that this is legal in the USA now?!?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Yes, hemp is the answer- great point!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2021
    brianlux said:
    Yes, hemp is the answer- great point!
    I firmly believe it is the answer to many of these points, but regulations have suppressed the mass production of it.  In TX, for example, it is “legal” to grow, but the hoops and regulations to do so create so much risk that most farmers are not willing to.  
    God forbid you get an actual plant with THC mixed in the crop and you lose your business.  Federal legalization of actual Marijuana would go a long ways in lowering risks for hemp farmers.  Come on Democrats, do it while you have a window!!!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Yes, hemp is the answer- great point!
    I firmly believe it is the answer to many of these points, but regulations have suppressed the mass production of it.  In TX, for example, it is “legal” to grow, but the hoops and regulations to do so create so much risk that most farmers are not willing to.  
    God forbid you get an actual plant with THC mixed in the crop and you lose your business.  Federal legalization of actual Marijuana would go a long ways in lowering risks for hemp farmers.  Come on Democrats, do it while you have a window!!!

    That is SO frustrating!  Here's plant that was considered an essential product during WWII for use in making ropes and tents, etc. and now it's a problem because a few potent plants might make their way into the crop.  Like you say, federal legalization is the answer.  Meanwhile, a much more dangerous drug- alcohol- is perfectly legal.  Ridiculous.

    Of course, the real reason marijuana is illegal is because in many cases, it allows people to think and see things from a different perspective and some people don't like that idea. They've got it all wrong.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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